Livonia replaces Quicken with Trinity Health

**Hardhat** · October-22-11, 09:24 PM

Sorry Livonia haters - I know our fair city is for some odd reason the butt of many jokes on these premises - but it looks like some very good news for L-town.
This is from the Observer and Eccentric.

Written by
Ken Abramczyk

Observer Staff Writer
The city of Livonia will soon have a new occupant at the site of the former Quicken Loans.

Trinity Health, the fourth-largest Catholic health care system in the country, will move 1,400 employees as part of the consolidation of two of its corporate headquarters locations in Novi and Farmington Hills, to a single campus in Livonia.

Trinity Health, which operates St. Mary Mercy Hospital in Livonia, has leased a campus of two adjacent, four-story buildings — 340,000 square feet — at the Victor Corporate Center at 20255 and 20555 Victor Parkway in Livonia.

Joseph Swedish, Trinity Health president and CEO, said the consolidation and relocation will help Trinity Health in cutting costs.

“With the selection of this campus as our home, we are able to bring our corporate teams in closer proximity to one another, leverage the current real estate market and ensure both cost savings and stability, among other goals,” Swedish said in a press release issued Wednesday on the company’s Web site. “I am very confident in our decision because it will stabilize costs and help us become more efficient at a crucial moment in health care history.”

Livonia Mayor Jack Kirksey said the city was “absolutely delighted” with the news.
Kirksey said there was intense competition for Trinity Health, and that there was a confidentiality clause during the negotiations between Trinity Health and Kojaian, a commercial real estate company based in Bloomfield Hills.

full article here

**Mind field** · October-22-11, 09:32 PM

But, what about Novi?

**Dexlin** · October-22-11, 09:34 PM

Who's going to fill the old space in Novi? You could have posted this without the snotty preface. Now, you just look silly.

**313WX** · October-22-11, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dexlin

Who's going to fill the old space in Novi? You could have posted this without the snotty preface. Now, you just look silly.

Agreed 100%.

**Novine** · October-22-11, 10:14 PM

Jobs that were in Livonia move to Detroit. Jobs that were in Novi move to Livonia. Will jobs be leaving Detroit for Novi? As long as "economic development" in southeast Michigan consists of jobs being shuffled around the region, our regional economy is going to continue to decline. Livonia may have "won" by poaching the jobs from Novi but from the perspective of the regional economy, no one "won".

**313WX** · October-22-11, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Novine

Jobs that were in Livonia move to Detroit. Jobs that were in Novi move to Livonia. Will jobs be leaving Detroit for Novi? As long as "economic development" in southeast Michigan consists of jobs being shuffled around the region, our regional economy is going to continue to decline. Livonia may have "won" by poaching the jobs from Novi but from the perspective of the regional economy, no one "won".

With as tight of a home-rule clause as Michigan has, I think most people unfortuantely are only concerned about what happens in their own tiny little townships, not about what benefits the entire region.

**DetroiterOnTheWestCoast** · October-24-11, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Novine

Jobs that were in Livonia move to Detroit. Jobs that were in Novi move to Livonia. Will jobs be leaving Detroit for Novi? As long as "economic development" in southeast Michigan consists of jobs being shuffled around the region, our regional economy is going to continue to decline. Livonia may have "won" by poaching the jobs from Novi but from the perspective of the regional economy, no one "won".

I would say that anytime jobs migrate towards the urban core rather than from it, it's a good situation. Redevelop and repopulate the city and inner ring suburbs and stop the urban sprawl.

**Novine** · October-24-11, 01:49 PM

The problem is that Livonia's no more in the "urban core" than Novi.

bartock · October-22-11, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dexlin

Who's going to fill the old space in Novi? You could have posted this without the snotty preface. Now, you just look silly.

Respecting the fact that you are new here, for the most part, Livonia is totally unfairly and absolutely bombed on this site.

**swingline** · October-26-11, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by bartock

Respecting the fact that you are new here, for the most part, Livonia is totally unfairly and absolutely bombed on this site.

Livonians have not forgotten what happened to them during the war. http://www.detroityes.com/war.htm This is their revenge. They are capable of anything, including poaching employers from other suburbs. That office space should have remained empty. We never should have pulled our troops out. There is good intelligence that they are seeking to purchase tax credits in Niger. We need to re-invade.

**Islandman** · October-22-11, 10:01 PM

He's not being snotty, just factual.

http://atdetroit.net/forum/messages/...tml?1141787304

**Gistok** · October-22-11, 10:53 PM

I hope none of those Trinity Health folks need to take a bus!

**iheartthed** · October-23-11, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Gistok

I hope none of those Trinity Health folks need to take a bus!

Well, they didn't have that option in Novi either...

**Novine** · October-23-11, 10:38 PM

SMART has a stop on Haggerty for one of the routes that serves Farmington Hills. There are people that work at 12 Oaks who walk or get rides from this stop since it's right on the Novi border.

**tkelly1986** · October-24-11, 08:51 AM

I wonder if the city made a pitch for Trinity. I know it’s a suburban based health system, but nevertheless.

**Danny** · October-24-11, 10:28 AM

Move to Detroit Trinity Health. Those folks in Livonia don't care about mass transit.

**Scottathew** · October-24-11, 07:24 PM

Are companies starting to move further and further into the core?

It would be nice to see more large companies move into downtown!

**Hermod** · October-27-11, 09:10 AM

Point 1: This places the office campuses close to the hospital thus reducing the mileage necessary for coordinating visits during the day. Good for the company and good [[slightly) for the environment.

Point 2: Livonia [[and Warren) were developed after the war due to a housing and land shortage in Detroit proper. Returning servicemen and young war industry workers who were or who got married were tired of living in their old bedroom at home and didn't want to live in the upstairs of an income flat. All of those little 1000-1300 sq ft ranch houses [[little houses made of ticky-tacky) looked awfully damn good to them. They would accept the trade-off of "bland" since they weren't "super-cool".

**Det_ard** · October-27-11, 10:14 AM

Those little Livonia shitboxes sold for an average $111,000 in the last year, and the average soulless McMansion in Novi sold for an average $292,000. What idiot pays that much just to get low crime, good schools, nice neighborhoods and convenient shopping when the average house in Detroit is under $10,000?

DetroitPole · October-27-11, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Det_ard

Those little Livonia shitboxes sold for an average $111,000 in the last year, and the average soulless McMansion in Novi sold for an average $292,000. What idiot pays that much just to get low crime, good schools, nice neighborhoods and convenient shopping when the average house in Detroit is under $10,000?

You want to talk desirability? 292k won't buy you a closet in NYC or London. Maybe because people would rather live in a walkable, vibrant urban environment than pretend they're some kind of land baron in the shitfields of Novi in some paper-mache shanty.

Notice I am not championing Detroit in my posts - which is what you guys always fall back on: "lolz then why iz a house in detroit 10k when my house in livonia was 90k and we have streetlights!rofl" Because Detroit has serious problems, duh. I live here not as some badge of courage [[another fallback) but because it is the closest thing we have by a longshot in this entire state to a real, big, urban city.

Having to drive to the mailbox, corner store, and literally everywhere doesn't fit my definition of convenient.

**artds** · October-27-11, 03:54 PM

If anyone from Trintiy Health's management reads this thread, they're probably thinking, "What the hell are all these people talking about? The landlord in Livonia offered us a better rate than we were getting in Novi and FH, so we moved! End of story!"

I highly doubt it ever occurred to them that they were moving closer to the "urban core" or that someone would view this as Livonia "poaching" jobs from a neighboring city.

**p1acebo** · October-27-11, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by artds

If anyone from Trintiy Health's management reads this thread, they're probably thinking, "What the hell are all these people talking about? The landlord in Livonia offered us a better rate than we were getting in Novi and FH, so we moved! End of story!"

I highly doubt it ever occurred to them that they were moving closer to the "urban core" or that someone would view this as Livonia "poaching" jobs from a neighboring city.

This.

You guys give it a rest already.

**Dexlin** · October-28-11, 02:40 AM

This place is a snake pit, good god. It's doesn't reflect well on the metro, at all, but maybe it's actually what the metro is really like, now: a bunch of bitter, hyper-frustrated losers.