What is Evil?

**Detroitej72** · September-10-11, 11:59 PM

Everyone has come across people in their life's who seem truly evil.

You cannot look at events like The Holocaust, and 9-11 and think these things were done without evil in the world...Yet they were done by the hands of men!!!

Religion is the world's evil?
I think not, as there has been much killing in the name of atheism.

So, who is the evil?

What is Evil in This World???

**firstandten** · September-11-11, 12:19 AM

Evil to me is running into a sociopathic individual with anger management issues.Unfortunately there are a lot of those around.

**Pam** · September-12-11, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by firstandten

Evil to me is running into a sociopathic individual with anger management issues.Unfortunately there are a lot of those around.

I agree. Throw in greed and you have it pretty well covered.

**gazhekwe** · September-11-11, 07:46 AM

People who come up with specious arguments to promote outrageously harmful agendas, the people who fund and support the messengers to further the agenda, the ignorance that buys into the specious reasoning and spreads it among the population. I guess it boils down to ignorance and evil minds to manipulate it.

**Lowell** · September-11-11, 09:15 AM

I have traveled considerably, nationally and internationally, and one thing I have learned is that the vast majority of people everywhere are good people, the 'jerk quotient' of the population is a consistently small fraction and the truly evil a small proportion of those.

By good I mean they live and let let live, won't steal from you, and mind their own business. They might not be open, they might not be friendly, but you don't have to worry about them. If you were injured most of them would try to help you.

I have had many acts of small kindness from them, like the Palestinian man in Jerusalem seeing me trapped in a doorway in a downpour and waved me into his dwelling and served me tea, the farmer in Zimbabwe, then Rhodesia, who volunteered a bedroom in his house when no hotel room was available and night had fallen or the driver who picked me up as a youthful hitch-hiker in Italy and went far out of his way to get me to my destination. The latter was the first person to introduce me to the concept of "Pass it on". I had offered to give him some gas money and he simply told me to help someone else in the future. And I have.

It is sometimes easy to forget all the good people when the attention-whoring evil storm the stage and steal the show, like they did 10 years ago today. So today I think about all the good people I know and how I can 'pass it on'.

**Patrick** · September-11-11, 09:19 AM

Let me ask this question...are all humans capable of being evil? Do all humans have at least a bit of "evil" inside them?

**Gannon** · September-11-11, 12:19 PM

I believe that everyone fully has the capability of doing good and bad, better and worse. One phrase I've heard attributed to many 'masters' queried about this is, "there is a good dog and a bad dog within me." When pressed which would win, the immediate answer is "the one I feed." In my past, this comment was charged to Watchman Nee, the leader of the largest church in Korea...but with further investigation into other mystic spiritual approaches, I've heard the same story 'blamed' on a good many teachers throughout history. It may be one of those foundational truths of human existence that has been repeated from time-out-of-mind.

I think using the term evil brings another level of complexity to the conversation...I hardly use it any longer. Now I merely consider love and light the only things of substance, that which happens in their absence can be anything from random to more organized. I don't go towards describing it as 'evil' until there is some systematic trend or obvious personal drive in an individual.

Those who have fully given themselves over to a lack of light and love are usually quite easy to recognize. Oddly, even they seem to get 'used' by some overall unseen hand to foment good in the long run, this whole question of extreme good versus extreme evil is one of the most puzzling ones in philosophy and theosophy.

As with most psychological trends, evidences of which way a person 'leans' will show throughout their lifetimes. I even jokingly refer to the pets people choose as indicators, too. Usually, cat people are live-and-let-live lovers of random events, usually known as Type-B personalities...often described as those who do better for others. Dog people are often Type-A demanders that others strive to reach whatever is expected of them...usually described as those who do better for themselves. Of course, as with all spectrums, there will be exemptions to this rule, too! LOL...

Cheers

**Hypestyles** · September-11-11, 11:51 PM

Hope endures...

http://hypestyleshomebase.blogspot.c...this-10th.html

Steve bennet · September-12-11, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Detroitej72

Everyone has come across people in their life's who seem truly evil.

You cannot look at events like The Holocaust, and 9-11 and think these things were done without evil in the world...Yet they were done by the hands of men!!!

Religion is the world's evil?
I think not, as there has been much killing in the name of atheism.

Umm, the 9/11 attacks were fueled by religion, not Athesim.............

Are you a troll or are you actually serious?

**Gannon** · September-12-11, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by Steve bennet

Umm, the 9/11 attacks were fueled by religion, not Athesim.............

Are you a troll or are you actually serious?

The fellows who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks were godless atheists only focussed on their own money and power. So I guess you could say they DID have a 'god', just a tainted dirty one.

Oh, because it wasn't anyone the official story said it was...and if you believe THAT conspiracy, saying 19 Saudi Arabian hitchhikers could get NORAD to stand down for an hour and a half...then there is no discussion here.

Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowicz, Bill Kristol, and the rest of the gang of NeoCons were the ones who pulled off the largest gold robbery in history...killing those 3000+ people and altering our world in a way not seen since the Reichstag event before WWII.

Sincerely,
John

**coracle** · September-12-11, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Gannon

The fellows who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks were godless atheists only focussed on their own money and power. So I guess you could say they DID have a 'god', just a tainted dirty one.

Oh, because it wasn't anyone the official story said it was...and if you believe THAT conspiracy, saying 19 Saudi Arabian hitchhikers could get NORAD to stand down for an hour and a half...then there is no discussion here.

Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowicz, Bill Kristol, and the rest of the gang of NeoCons were the ones who pulled off the largest gold robbery in history...killing those 3000+ people and altering our world in a way not seen since the Reichstag event before WWII.

Sincerely,
John

If you believe that John because you just want to be contemptuous of people you hate politically then that's normal for a leftie; but if you really believe it deep down I suggest you go and see a neurologist urgently before it's too late. It's stupid. Does your brain hurt?

Sincerely

**Gannon** · September-12-11, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by coracle

If you believe that John because you just want to be contemptuous of people you hate politically then that's normal for a leftie; but if you really believe it deep down I suggest you go and see a neurologist urgently before it's too late. It's stupid. Does your brain hurt?

Sincerely

You haven't been around here very long, have you?!

I have no political leanings or aspirations or alignments.

I am quite contemtuous of those who ruined our country...and killed a bunch of people under the guise of fomenting war to profit from. Don't even start up with me until you've read about Operation Northwoods. Then, if you ask nicely, I'll tell you about the inside information I got from a client of mine who went to school at the UofChicago with Rummy...both he and W used the hifi system I installed at the fellow's western Michigan retreat. The stuff I heard the summer leading up to 9/11 was enough to prove to me their culpability in planning it all.

Read up on the Project for the New American Century, while you're at it.

I have no need to go to any doctor...and you are quite the troll if that is the best reply you've got. It would be best to not go personal again.

Sincerely,
John

**coracle** · September-12-11, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Gannon

You haven't been around here very long, have you?!

I have no political leanings or aspirations or alignments.

I am quite contemtuous of those who ruined our country...and killed a bunch of people under the guise of fomenting war to profit from. Don't even start up with me until you've read about Operation Northwoods. Then, if you ask nicely, I'll tell you about the inside information I got from a client of mine who went to school at the UofChicago with Rummy...both he and W used the hifi system I installed at the fellow's western Michigan retreat. The stuff I heard the summer leading up to 9/11 was enough to prove to me their culpability in planning it all.

Read up on the Project for the New American Century, while you're at it.

I have no need to go to any doctor...and you are quite the troll if that is the best reply you've got. It would be best to not go personal again.

Sincerely,
John

There's a difference John between "...culpability for planning it all" and "...the ones that pulled off..." I sense the beginning of a retreat from your first claim. How can you dismiss overwhelming evidence that it was Islamic terrorists that carried out the attack? If there was any nefarious planning as you claim you could liken it to your Operation Northwoods example which was a plan that was never executed.

Steve bennet · September-12-11, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Gannon

The fellows who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks were godless atheists only focussed on their own money and power.

Wait, what?

**Pam** · September-12-11, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Steve bennet

Wait, what?

He's one of those "9-11 was an inside job" people.

**Danny** · September-12-11, 11:57 AM

Evil is an opposite of good. [[In theology) its a force energy was produced by free will knowledge by means of choice. It cannot destroyed neither is good in the universe and its dimentions. When God made good things, evil comes out of it [[ both through knowledge). In theory [[of the same) when evil was created, good comes out of it.

When the Kingdom of God was created by God, The Son and The Holy Ghost. They made spiritual things. Since they are good, they made good things. When they made angels, they saw it good. Now they gave angels a choice, serve God or serve themselves. One angel named Lucifer, The light giver, beauty and music wants to be God and rule the stars. One he made the choice, evil comes out of him. He gathers 33% of his angels and decided to wage a first Holy War against God and 66% of his angels who decided to stay good forever. After the Holy War Lucifer and his angels lost and was cast out to the void called Hell. [[as in the pit or abyss). There they can self rule until revelation when they would utterly destroyed by holy fire provided by Jesus who will be sitting at the throne of Great Judgement.

In scientific universal theory, whatever good things created in the void of space, evil comes out of it. Whatever evil things created out of the void of space, good comes out it.

When the big bang exploded in void space, inflation begins. Quarks and electrons were created by strings called Squarks. When Quarks created their evil particles called Anti-quarks and positrons, a particle war loomed. When Quarks electrons, Antiquarks and positrons where annihilated the remaining quarks and electrons won. The particles started to make atoms they would make up all the matter in the universe today. The force of good would reign.

If Antiquarks and positons won they would create antimatter in the universe. The force of evil would reign.

So what is Evil! It's a force of free will knowledge created by good things from a good authority by choice.

Steve bennet · September-12-11, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Pam

He's one of those "9-11 was an inside job" people.

Figures.

Not even worth the effort to talk to those people. It's easier to save your energy.

**maxx** · September-16-11, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Gannon

The fellows who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks were godless atheists only focussed on their own money and power. So I guess you could say they DID have a 'god', just a tainted dirty one.

Oh, because it wasn't anyone the official story said it was...and if you believe THAT conspiracy, saying 19 Saudi Arabian hitchhikers could get NORAD to stand down for an hour and a half...then there is no discussion here.

Do you really believe this or am I not catching your irony? Are you saying that you don't believe that a few S. Arabians could get NORAD to stand down but a couple atheists could?

.

**Pam** · September-12-11, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Steve bennet

Umm, the 9/11 attacks were fueled by religion, not Athesim.............

Are you a troll or are you actually serious?

I think he meant in general, not in reference to 9-11.

I would disagree there has been killing "in the name of atheism" though. They might have been atheists but they were killing in the name of something else- Communism, Fascism etc.

**Bigb23** · September-12-11, 06:29 AM

As with most psychological trends, evidences of which way a person 'leans' will show throughout their lifetimes. I even jokingly refer to the pets people choose as indicators, too. Usually, cat people are live-and-let-live lovers of random events, usually known as Type-B personalities...often described as those who do better for others. Dog people are often Type-A demanders that others strive to reach whatever is expected of them...usually described as those who do better for themselves. Of course, as with all spectrums, there will be exemptions to this rule, too! LOL...

Well done, Gannon. That's a quite well written insight. [[No current pets).

**Gannon** · September-12-11, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by Bigb23

Well done, Gannon. That's a quite well written insight. [[No current pets).

Thanks. I don't know how to figure those without pets unless they keep 'losing' them.

Cheers!

lit joe · September-12-11, 09:12 AM

Evil is a weak mind that failed lives lesson. Every thing has a reason.

**Bong-Man** · September-12-11, 10:00 AM

We take it one step further at work. Not only is there evil, but it's passed down through generations. Out of those 800 people living in the African sea cave that we all supposedly came from, at least one of those people were a complete asshole. We often speculate that our Boss' relatives were key in the Nazi movement, related to Attila the Hun, and even Judas.....all descendants from that one bad seed.

**maxx** · September-14-11, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Bong-Man

We take it one step further at work. Not only is there evil, but it's passed down through generations. Out of those 800 people living in the African sea cave that we all supposedly came from, at least one of those people were a complete asshole. We often speculate that our Boss' relatives were key in the Nazi movement, related to Attila the Hun, and even Judas.....all descendants from that one bad seed.

Bulding on that thought: If you look at history, a lot of it is the story of warfare with the most ruthless winning. Gives one pause when considering one's heritage.

Until recently, I didn't like to use the word "evil" when describing someone because I think "evil" means that there is not one shred of good or potential for good in that person. Now when I look at people like Mitch McConnell or the people of Brown & Williams who wanted to destroy Dr. Wigand the whistleblower, I find it difficult to restrain myself.

And once again, power not atheism was behind Stalin's atrocities. He even did in his closest subordinates. That is true of all totalitarians, especially the religious one. Their god tells them they are doing the right thing.

**rb336** · September-14-11, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by maxx

And once again, power not atheism was behind Stalin's atrocities. He even did in his closest subordinates. That is true of all totalitarians, especially the religious one. Their god tells them they are doing the right thing.

"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion"

Nobel Laureate in Physics Steven Weinberg