Concealed gun permits increase across Michigan

[ejames01]

Concealed gun permits increase across Michigan

ASSOCIATED PRESS
7:27 AM, Jun. 28, 2011|

The number of concealed gun permits has increased greatly across Michigan, but the pace varies by region.

According to an analysis by Booth Newspapers published today, in one Upper Peninsula county, nearly one in 10 of those 21 and older has a permit. It's fewer than three out of 100 in several West Michigan
counties.

Ten years ago this week, Michigan became a "shall-issue" state, making it easier for residents to obtain concealed licenses if they're at least 21 and meet certain requirements.

State Police records show in the first year, 53,000 permits were approved. Today, there are more than 270,000 permit holders.

That's double the amount five years ago.

Five of the state's top 10 counties in terms of licenses per capita are in the U.P.


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[mikefmich]

You posted the script and link to this article......what is your take on it?

[guito13]

You posted the script and link to this article......what is your take on it?

I vote for awesome! Hopefully the lowlifes in the state take notice.

[bailey]

I vote for awesome! Hopefully the lowlifes in the state take notice.

lots of lowlifes up in da UP?

I just got mine. Went through a 10 hour class, safety course, target shooting [[with politically correct targets), background check, fingerprinted and interviewed by the Macomb County Gun Board. In certain circumstances, I feel a lot more comfortable having protection on me.

With Michigan being an open carry state.. wouldn't the deterrent affect of wearing the gun openly be of more use? Why go through all the rigmarole? just strap it to your hip and waddle around everywhere like the Duke.

[guito13]

lots of lowlifes up in da UP?

Lots of churches, trees, bars, and snow but not too many lowlifes [[or deer!! lol). I spend time up on my hunting property up there so I know!

However, I live in Wayne county and i feel better knowing i can protect myself if heaven forbid I am put in that situation!

[bailey]

Lots of churches, trees, bars, and snow but not too many lowlifes [[or deer!! lol). I spend time up on my hunting property up there so I know!

However, I live in Wayne county and i feel better knowing i can protect myself if heaven forbid I am put in that situation!

Well, if you can't carry while in or around:

Schools or school property but may carry while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up if a parent or legal guardian

Public or private day care center, public or private child caring agency, or public or private child placing agency.

Sports arena or stadium

A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises

Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official allows concealed weapons

An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more

A hospital

A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university

A Casino

What threats are you worried about? I'm not knocking those that get them, but i'm think about what I do and where I go where I'd most want to have a gun on me. I mean you're in Wayne county... if you're like the rest of this area, you're daily routine is driving from the suburban cul du sac to the office park where you work [[or a dwindling minority...to the downtown office building) to the big box store/wal mart after work and back home. I don't need a gun in my pocket then, I need/want one when I'm out downtown at all hours after hitting a ball game or winning big[[ yeah right) at the casino. Frankly when it comes down to it, my concealed firearm would be spending a lot of time being concealed in a locked box somewhere off my person.

I see why some people would want them.. .just not 270,000. I think it has more to do with fantasy and fear than any real threats.

[ejames01]

Everyone should apply for their CPL.

You posted the script and link to this article......what is your take on it?

[Buy American]

I just got mine. Went through a 10 hour class, safety course, target shooting [[with politically correct targets), background check, fingerprinted and interviewed by the Macomb County Gun Board. In certain circumstances, I feel a lot more comfortable having protection on me.

[Pam]

lots of lowlifes up in da UP?

Maybe they are worried about rampaging moose or rabid bears or something.

[Detroitnerd]

Look at the other thread about Detroit Police who don't stop when flagged down and I think it's perfectly reasonable to get a concealed carry permit.

[Detroitnerd]

At least you have a chance to kill an assailant with a gun. Or, if it's a group of people, a hand grenade. Or, if it's a whole nation, a trusty little nuclear device.

[HistoryNotHisStory]

At least you have a chance to kill an assailant with a gun. Or, if it's a group of people, a hand grenade. Or, if it's a whole nation, a trusty little nuclear device.

Once a again how can a offensive weapon, safeguard your life.

A gun is not a protector. It is not a bullet shield. A gun in my hand does not make me feel safe or not safe. Being aware of my surroundings, make me feel safe.

[Jimaz]

This thread reminded me of this other recent story:

Gun owner to face charges in gun show shooting

The owner of a gun that fired twice during a gun and knife show at the Gibraltar Trade Center in Mt. Clemens Friday, injuring three people, is expected to be arraigned on a felony charge after turning himself in to authorities....

A 46-year-old customer from Chesterfield Township was handling the gun when it fired the first time. The gun fired a second time when the gun’s owner took it back.

The owner has been banned from future gun shows at the center.

Yikes! How can that even happen? Misfired not once but twice?

[HistoryNotHisStory]

This thread reminded me of this other recent story:

Gun owner to face charges in gun show shootingYikes! How can that even happen? Misfired not once but twice?

My point exactly, many people with guns but no one is safely protected. So I pose the question, How does a gun makes you feel safer.

[shovelhead]

This thread reminded me of this other recent story:

Gun owner to face charges in gun show shootingYikes! How can that even happen? Misfired not once but twice?

Any gun show I have attended have a requirement that firearms are unloaded and zip tied. Including firearms carried by LEO's. So the rules at Gibraltar are? Sounds like the gun owner's brain misfired.

To the poster that advocated open carry, let us know how that works out when you are targeted as the first one to take out in a robbery. Kind of like wearing a sign "kick me". Or while walking down the street someone does a snatch and run from behind on your gun. Don't think it can't happen, remember the element of surprise.

To the ones that say "well he or she should not have been there", the answer I have is that wherever you are, something can happen. Case in point, a recent confrontation with a door to door salesman. I told him THREE times that I was not interested in his product. The fourth time I said "Do you not understand?" He started swearing at me. What if he decided to lunge at the screen door? The incident did not escalate to that point, but it could have. Then what? Is it my duty to say to him, "All's forgiven, come on in and have a beer. Sure I'll buy all your product. let's be friends." Or do I tell him to please stop tearing through while I call the police? Or am I to remain a prisoner in my own house afraid to answer the door?

You want to stop gun violence, great. For example do something about the fourteen year old kid that shot himself and a bystander last night at the fireworks. Or a few years ago the group of teens that held up a man at a northwest side car wash with a unloaded gun. The victim, a CPL holder shot the gun holder. How was he to know it was unloaded? Was he supposed to ask the perps if they had ammunition? Or the shooter that ended a eviction dispute with gunfire a few weeks back. Of the three cases cited here, at least two of the perps could not legally possess a handgun or hold a CPL. The last case, he was of legal age anyway. I can't say if he did or didn't have a CPL.

Ban firearms? A lot of things can be turned into weapons, will we ban hammers, baseball bats, cue sticks, kitchen knives and on and on?

There have been incidents involving CPL holders doing stupid things, they get theirs. Besides the court system, they will have their CPL suspended pending a appearance in front of the gun board. And the boards do not take kindly from what I hear to court appearances. I know of only one, reckless driving charge while carrying. Even though he plead guilty to a reduced charge, he still had a suspension and a visit to the board in his future.Haven't seen him in a while so I do not know whether he has a permit any longer.

[GOAT]

I've said it before and I'll say it again....yup, because more guns have made the average person safer. Cripes what a waste. I wonder how many are tough guys now? What stupidity.

[Buy American]

Michigan CCW Laws:

Individuals licensed to carry a concealed pistol by Michigan or another state are prohibited from carrying a concealed pistol on the following premises:

1. Schools or school property but may carry while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up if a parent or legal guardian
   
2. Public or private day care center, public or private child caring agency, or public or private child placing agency.
   
3. Sports arena or stadium
   
4. A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises
   
5. Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official allows concealed weapons
   
6. An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more
   
7. A hospital
   
8. A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university
   
9. A Casino
   
   

[Searay215]

Michigan CCW Laws:

Individuals licensed to carry a concealed pistol by Michigan or another state are prohibited from carrying a concealed pistol on the following premises:

1. Schools or school property but may carry while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up if a parent or legal guardian
   
2. Public or private day care center, public or private child caring agency, or public or private child placing agency.
   
3. Sports arena or stadium
   
4. A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises
   
5. Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official allows concealed weapons
   
6. An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more
   
7. A hospital
   
8. A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university
   
9. A Casino
   
   

Here is a list of businesses that have signs that say "No Firearms allowed" This list is intended as a Do Not Partonize list because of their policy on carrying.
http://www.mcrgo.org/mcrgo/d_no_gun_signs.asp