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  1. #51

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    People getting off on technicalities. You've obviously never spent any time in a real court room. Go down there and watch. Its free. The prosecutors, defense attorneys, and judges will all answer questions. The criminal justice system works just fine.

  2. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    After they are found guilty....what if they get off on a technicality?

    oh, because they confessed to something they didn't do under torture?

  3. #53

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    ...what if they get off on a technicality?
    This warns of why it is so very important to get it right. Don't belittle technicalities - they protect everyone. This is where to the old adage "don't sweat the small stuff" [[technicalities) is inappropriate.
    Last edited by vetalalumni; June-04-09 at 08:50 AM.

  4. #54
    ccbatson Guest

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    Never heard of OJ? Ever talk to an attorney whose job it is to get their clients off this way?

  5. #55

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    Funny, how someone constantly demanding less government intrusion into the "rights of inviduals" is so quick to demand the government to ignore an individual's rights.

  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Never heard of OJ? Ever talk to an attorney whose job it is to get their clients off this way?
    well, the cops should never have been so overzealous to pin it on OJ. It is very clear that the cops tainted the evidence, and had they not blatantly messed with the evidence, OJ would have been convicted.

  7. #57
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    I didn't say I was opposed to these rights...just that the reality is that puhlenty of guilty folks walk free. Now, thanks to liberals, they will be walking free in the continental US, and subsidized with our tax dollars.

  8. #58
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    Sorry...by they, I mean the Gitmo detainees....in case I wasn't clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    They are not soldiers in uniform, and they are not soldiers of a sovereign state with whom we are at war...therefore, they are not prisoners of war.
    not even in the war on terrorism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    I didn't say I was opposed to these rights...just that the reality is that puhlenty of guilty folks walk free. Now, thanks to liberals, they will be walking free in the continental US, and subsidized with our tax dollars.
    Give me the name of one former Guitanimo detainee walking free in the continental US. I won't even ask that you prove they are living on government subsidies.

  11. #61
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    No, not even in a war on terrorism. By their choice, they decide to hide amongst human shields and surrender the possibility of POW status.

    Hasn't happened yet MJS. Only because Obama is having second thoughts.

  12. #62

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    When you threaten more of something that hasn't happened, its called fear mongering. Cite the time Obama said he wanted the detainees to be walking free in the continental US.

    I would think they would want to go back home. I know if I were dragged off to Iraq or Russia and held captive for a few years before being sent back home, I wouldn't be asking them for a visa so I could return. If an islamic extremist wants to kill Americans, they would do better in Iraq or Afghanistan where Americans aren't as well protected and they have the home field advantage.

    Tell Rush I said its just pure fear mongering.

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    Tell you what. Offer them to the people of Standish, Muskegon and the Eastern UP. I bet you will hear some positive comments on keeping three of the largest employers in the area open with federal dollars.

  14. #64
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    Put the prisoners, [[if they are even really "terrorists" anyway) in Batts basement. Just living under the noise of that constant knuckle dragging should drive them insane, or to suicide.

  15. #65
    ccbatson Guest

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    Fear that Obama will do as he says he will? That is fear mongering? Splain how please.

  16. #66
    Lorax Guest

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    Only a paranoid irrational repugnican would "fear" Obama, however, it's in our best interest you do, since it serves our purposes of dividing and conquering your fascist leaders.

    Who are you planning on running in 2012?

    Saracuda?

    GinGrinch?

    Lintball?

    Mittens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Fear that Obama will do as he says he will? That is fear mongering? Splain how please.
    If he said it, its not fear mongering, but if he didn't, it is fear mongering. So, again . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by mjs View Post
    Cite the time Obama said he wanted the detainees to be walking free in the continental US.

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    Logic helps...Clearly, not all detainees from Gitmo will be found guilty [[whether correctly, or not), if they are held here in the US, and not deported when they are not convicted, where will they go?

    given the very high recidivism rate for former/released detainees to return to terrorist organizations and activities, at least some of these people will be on our streets and with the intent to do further harm. It is inescapable logic based on Obama's words and intended policies.

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    First, why would they want to stay in the US? Second, none of them are Amercian citizens. They will all be deported. We'll put them back where we kidnapped them.

  20. #70
    ccbatson Guest

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    Check your premises MJS...that isn't how it is proposed by Obama and company.

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    I keep telling you to point me to the exact quote, speech, whatever you have.

    Quote Originally Posted by mjs View Post
    Cite the time Obama said he wanted the detainees to be walking free in the continental US.
    Last edited by mjs; June-07-09 at 11:42 PM.

  22. #72

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    Standish, Michigan?

  23. #73
    ccbatson Guest

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    That is the proposed site. As I have said elsewhere...Michigan is the most hopelessly socialist and destitute state. Dumping this problem here is less likely to hurt the liberals politically [[at least in this state), so they take the path of least resistance.

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    I say house them on the derelict Crawford "ranch" of ex pres. Tush.

    This so-called ranch would be the perfect place, since the temperature will remind them of the scorching desert they came from, and it would send a clear message- you broke it, you fix it.

  25. #75
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    I'd rather have Gitmo prisoners in Michigan than California's prisoners. Unlike California, the Feds will be able to pay their bill and it's unlikely that relatives of Gitmo detainees will move to the area to be near them, whereas California's felonious families might.

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