Quote Originally Posted by Ray1936 View Post
OK, so I'm an outsider, having abandoned Detroit in 1984 when I retired from the DPD. But it amazes me how many people on DetroitYes jump in at the slightest provocation to knock the Illitch family. For you nay-sayers, did you ever think to imagine what the City of Detroit would be like today were it not for the Illitch family?

Yeah, I'm 2k miles away. But I still hope for total rebirth. And, yes, I return every year.
Bad take. The Illitches own two sports teams and a casino. Most people would say with almost 100% certainty that those items would still exists without them and would probably be around the same locations. They may even be better integrated into the city than the casino and the two arenas are now.

They have yet to finish the world headquarters and they have yet to make good on 100's of promises.

The Fox is nice, and the gift to Wayne State is ok, but that doesn't give them any deference in most people's mind.