Southfield trying to become a mini-city like those on Woodward.

[dtowncitylover]

Speaking of mini-cities, but if this region were still the older satellite cities [[Ferndale, Royal Oak, Birmingham, Wyandotte, Mt. Clemens) and none of the post-war crapvilles, with a Detroit that wasn't hollowed out, this region would easily be on par with Boston, Portland, Seattle, you name it, in terms of desirability. We'd easily be able to create a comprehensive mass-transit system and have loads of greenspace [[that wasn't vacant lots).

Now we just have an unholy mess.

Are you envisioning the city still having a stable population of 1.5-1.8 million people with the older, streetcar suburbs supporting much of the suburban population? I have a hard time imagining it because even Boston and Seattle have their suburban/exurban wastelands.

Cities like Royal Oak, Mt. Clemens, and Birmingham would have to be denser urban suburbs on the scale of Everett or Somerville, Mass which are very dense for being suburbs.

Paris is just a big bigger than Warren. Imagine 2 million people living in Warren!