lake st clair wind farm discussion

[SpartanTom]

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Thanks for your worthless contribution to the thread imbecile.

[Hermod]

One only has to look at the current history of AMTRAK, the alleged solution for mass transit, and the billions of dollars in government subsidies required annually to keep them on track.

Not a really good example to support your previous claim. The railroads were losing money big time on passengers and wanted to get out of the business entirely. AMTRAK was put together by a strange coalition of rail train enthusiasts, communities demanding passenger rail service, and railroad financial interests. The railroads essentially gave the government all of their passenger equipment and the right to run passenger trains on their rails. In return, the railroads could discontinue all of their passenger service obligations. The designers were split between those wanting to use AMTRAK as a fig leaf to quickly phase out rail passenger travel and terminate AMTRAK and those who saw AMTRAK as a great dream of magnificent coast to coast passenger trains with wonderful equipment operating at high speeds and on frequent schedules. The result is the mess you see today.

Wind farms, tide mills, solar collectors, global warming, cap and trade, and algore are another discussion with far different dynamics than AMTRAK.

[lincoln8740]

Thanks for your worthless contribution to the thread imbecile.

waaaaaaaaa! someone does not buy into the scam that are wind farms waaaaaaaaa!


You now someone has a point whenever the name calling starts

[Cougar]

Thanks for your worthless contribution to the thread imbecile.

Darn, I just lost a bet! I figured it would take two days before a leftist EW [[Enviromental Waco) would drop his load and throw out an insult rather than engage in a legitimate discussion..............You just forfeited any chance for any decent conversation we could have had. FWIW, I'm not surprised, you're typical of the left wing kool-aid drinkers from the cup of Gore.........

[Cougar]

Not a really good example to support your previous claim. The railroads were losing money big time on passengers and wanted to get out of the business entirely. AMTRAK was put together by a strange coalition of rail train enthusiasts, communities demanding passenger rail service, and railroad financial interests. The railroads essentially gave the government all of their passenger equipment and the right to run passenger trains on their rails. In return, the railroads could discontinue all of their passenger service obligations. The designers were split between those wanting to use AMTRAK as a fig leaf to quickly phase out rail passenger travel and terminate AMTRAK and those who saw AMTRAK as a great dream of magnificent coast to coast passenger trains with wonderful equipment operating at high speeds and on frequent schedules. The result is the mess you see today.

Wind farms, tide mills, solar collectors, global warming, cap and trade, and algore are another discussion with far different dynamics than AMTRAK.

Actually there is a correlation between the two. It's undeniable that AMTRAK is unable to sustain itself without government subsidies regardless and because of all the reasons you have listed.

The fact remains that wind farms, tide mills, etc. cannot subsist on their own without govt. funding either. And as I stated in my previous post, if wind farms were a guaranteed source of cost efficient energy, companies would be lined up outside the doors of the respective communities offering their bids. But that's not happening and never will! Instead, its the companies skilled in procurring government grants and subsidies who are vying for these contracts...........

Given the dense population of this state and the energy demands, its absolutely ridiculous to think that windmill farms could even remotely satisfy any needs for such energy at cost savings for the consumer without government funding. And we know who pays for that funding don't we?

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[SpartanTom]

Darn, I just lost a bet! I figured it would take two days before a leftist EW [[Enviromental Waco) would drop his load and throw out an insult rather than engage in a legitimate discussion..............You just forfeited any chance for any decent conversation we could have had. FWIW, I'm not surprised, you're typical of the left wing kool-aid drinkers from the cup of Gore.........

It's hilarious that you think any of that incoherent, rambling rant contained even a shred of fact. Leave it to a brainwashed right-winger like you to have to respond with emoticons.

[Jason]

Europe and Asia [[basically the rest of the developed world) are building wind farms and other "green" projects all over the place. They also have thorough mass transit systems.

But of course, they're a bunch of liberal leftist socialist welfare state bla bla bla bla bla

Science and common sense are on global warming's side. How do you debate with someone who has already rejected both? There's no winning against conspiracy theorists.

[Cougar]

It's hilarious that you think any of that incoherent, rambling rant contained even a shred of fact. Leave it to a brainwashed right-winger like you to have to respond with emoticons.

Why is it so hard for you to engage in a civil discourse over a legitimate concern such as this? Do you think that name calling rather than factual arguments is going to somehow grant you moral superiority in this argument? If your comments reflect the way you engage people in real time over substantive issues such as this then all you have accomplished is showing this readership how ignorant you are.