Campus shooting at Michigan State University

[Richard]

Marx,Lenin and Engles were considered the smartest leftists in history,they went on to establish the communist manifesto which set the base for socialism and communism,they actually wrote the book.

Stalinism is the means of governing and Marxist–Leninist policies implemented in the Soviet Unionfrom 1927 to 1953 by Joseph Stalin. It included the creation of a one-party totalitarian police state, rapid industrialization, the theory of that socialism in one country [[until 1939)

They did use bastardized versions or tweaked them to suit their needs but as a republic which had it roots long before our founding fathers tweaked it we are protected because it is designed to give power to the people and limit the governments role in the citizens life.

It was also formed in a time where countries were ruled by kings and the ruling class so the intent was to not allow a single person or small group control everybody.

The objective was exactly opposite of socialism or communism,because in those cases no matter how you spin it,the people do not have a voice or power,it is decided for them.

[Rocket]

Marx,Lenin and Engles were considered the smartest leftists in history.

Which is funny, as Marx was a colossal moron.

His second most famous book was Das Kapital ["Capital", about capitalism and capitalists], yet he had no idea what a capitalist even was, or what they did.

[Honky Tonk]

Which is funny, as Marx was a colossal moron.

His second most famous book was Das Kapital ["Capital", about capitalism and capitalists], yet he had no idea what a capitalist even was, or what they did.

[Zacha341]

Having worked at several college [as faculty and dept. staff] campuses security has always been important - working alone or during my classes.

At one college campus, because I have the door key I always keep door locked during class - closing door once class starts. It can't be assumed that campuses are safe. Insane further that this murderer had no direct issue with MSU.

These are older videos but provide reflections back upon the students and our communities trying to cope with this tragedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytNahKskTpw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5zCDlyLjJE

See also couple who helped authorities find the shooter:

[Zacha341]

^ Yep. Indeed some are uncomfortable but Wayne State, Oakland Community College and Wayne County Community Colleges have had armed security policing/ command centers for decades. As do exclusive gated communities replete of armed security often transparent to those residents made safe - yet no less present. DPSCD has metal detectors for their schools.

In the case with WSU and OCC both have police academy degree granting programs from which completers secure the area working with local policing. Not sure about WCCC, but their command center is complete.

[jcole]

Almost ALL large and medium sized universities have police forces; actual police forces. Did none of you see the interviews with the chief and deputy chief of MSU's force on all the local channels? OU has had a police force since at least 1995 when I started there. What they don't have is any kind of punch card entrance requirements and other security that the kids themselves are asking for. The only local University that I know of with a closed campus and punch card is UDM. No one gets in there without approval. There is no way that someplace like UM can have a "closed campus" but they could have locked buildings with key card entry. Same for MSU, WS, OU and all the others. They don't need an armed cop with an assault rifle for every kid on campus, they just need some security that meets common sense guidelines.

[Jimaz]

...OU has had a police force since at least 1995....

Since at least 1973 in my experience, although it should be noted that the power of university security is legally limited compared to that of a normal police force.

[Richard]

Almost ALL large and medium sized universities have police forces; actual police forces. Did none of you see the interviews with the chief and deputy chief of MSU's force on all the local channels? OU has had a police force since at least 1995 when I started there. What they don't have is any kind of punch card entrance requirements and other security that the kids themselves are asking for. The only local University that I know of with a closed campus and punch card is UDM. No one gets in there without approval. There is no way that someplace like UM can have a "closed campus" but they could have locked buildings with key card entry. Same for MSU, WS, OU and all the others. They don't need an armed cop with an assault rifle for every kid on campus, they just need some security that meets common sense guidelines.

And that’s the difference between schools that have had shootings and those who have not


The schools that ignore red flags,withhold information from local law enforcement and try to keep everything in house have had shootings while the others have not and even prevented a few in the process.

There has never been a school shooting using an assault rifle,the police do not carry assault rifles.

Most schools decide not to have law enforcement on site because it traumatized the students with their presence.

[Richard]

QUOTE=Henry Whalley;631992]It doesn't matter what the Constitution says in plain English. SCOTUS wants to sell assault rifles and it has the final word. Things will change only when the ideology of SCOTUS shifts 180 degrees, and IMHO it will shift in a generation or two when enough terrorized school children are old enough to vote.[/QUOTE]

Nothing like using a false narrative in order to base a discussion,outside of private sales of existing assault weapons,they have not been available to the public sense 1986.

Because of that they are scarce and expensive,up to $30,000 so 99% of gun owners do not even own an assault weapon.

SCOTUS is governed by the constitution,instead of learning something verses pulling tdls out out of your south end while facing north,you are using a false narrative as a discussion and not really concerned about innocent lives.

[canuck]

QUOTE=Henry Whalley;631992]It doesn't matter what the Constitution says in plain English. SCOTUS wants to sell assault rifles and it has the final word. Things will change only when the ideology of SCOTUS shifts 180 degrees, and IMHO it will shift in a generation or two when enough terrorized school children are old enough to vote.

Nothing like using a false narrative in order to base a discussion,outside of private sales of existing assault weapons,they have not been available to the public sense 1986.

Because of that they are scarce and expensive,up to $30,000 so 99% of gun owners do not even own an assault weapon.

SCOTUS is governed by the constitution,instead of learning something verses pulling tdls out out of your south end while facing north,you are using a false narrative as a discussion and not really concerned about innocent lives.[/QUOTE]


Ok then. Wrap a weight around his waste [[sic)…

[Henry Whalley]

Ok then. Wrap a weight around his waste [[sic)…

Authorities are surely watching Richard who expresses violent and anti-social fantasies in long rants. Medically speaking, it's called anti-social personality disorder and there's no known cure. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20353928

P.S. He hates my garbage!

[Jimaz]

... it's called anti-social personality disorder....

I guess that could explain some of the obsessing against socialism around here.

Which reminds me of the recently-coined British slang term, gammon. It's meant to describe bitter, white, right-wingers who are constantly angry and so their face always looks red like ham. Gotta hand it to the Brits.

[Richard]

Like ol blue eyes sings

Send in the clowns.

[canuck]

Rick, You've toned down somewhat. I was expecting a Dirty Harry or Rooster Cogburn, at the very least a Foghorn Leghorn quotation.

[Henry Whalley]

Rick, You've toned down somewhat. I was expecting a Dirty Harry or Rooster Cogburn, at the very least a Foghorn Leghorn quotation.

I was expecting more hate speech about my garbage.

[Richard]

Rick, You've toned down somewhat. I was expecting a Dirty Harry or Rooster Cogburn, at the very least a Foghorn Leghorn quotation.

"Boy, I say boy, pay close attention to me, "cause you're a burrito short of a combination plate."

Dirty Harry is 92 years old,even at that age he could probably whoop your butts all the way back to Moscow.

I could bring it down to some of you guys levels and learn about this Barney character but then I would have to think like a 6 year old in order to comprehend.

I figured with the price of food skyrocketing under your preferred form of leadership,you would be taking advantage of it and spending more time milking your moose and smuggling it across the border for profit.Bless your heart …

Freaking back up to 80 degrees here today,looks like it’s going to be a bit nippy up there with that cold front rolling in,I will throw another log on the fire for you,o wait sorry,a little extra ice in your sweat tea.

I was thinking about this for a place to escape the heat for a few months out of the year

https://www.privateislandsonline.com...-of-lac-lesage

[southen]

Humor can be difficult.

[oladub]

The term, "hot under the collar" comes to mind. Some people need to chill.

A study show that in "100 major U.S. cities with the highest proportion of gun violence between 2015 and 2020. It found that out of 116 ,511 shootings, roughly 6.85% [[or 7,973) were attributable to above-average temperatures.
Gun violence, as well as other types of violence, such as road rage, is known to worsen in the summer. Warmer temperatures increase the body’s stress hormones in the nervous system, which may heighten violent impulses.
People also spend more time outdoors when the weather is warm, which makes encounters with others — and the potential for lethal clashes — more likely"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/oth...5ce062bbc&ei=4

[Henry Whalley]

The term, "hot under the collar" comes to mind. Some people need to chill.

Is this a non sequitur?

[oladub]

Is this a non sequitur?

Close. But more a play on cliches. Maybe if positioned after all else, it could be a non sequitur. But 6.85%, 7,973 lives/year is something no one would argue about. I used to come home from work hungry, dusty, thirsty and sweaty in the summer and everyone else in the family was at least hot. I finally broke down and bought an air conditioner for the dining room. I should have done that sooner but air conditioners seemed like an extravagance. It really helped everyone's mood. The dining room became a haven through July and August so I can believe this study. I'm not sure though how government could institute cool places. Somewhere back, I think, in the Obama administration, air conditioners were being given away to inner city people. It seemed stupid and expensive at the time but this study makes some sense out of it.

non se·qui·tur

• a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.

[Richard]

I think it has more to do with people are caught up in their own little worlds,expecting everybody and everything to cater to their individual needs and everything revolves around them.

Woman is getting raped on the rail car and everybody just sits back and does nothing.

Write up in the paper,guy is sick falls down in the street,people just kept in walking by,so he died right there.

I watched a 5 year old throw a screaming tantrum because her cell phone was dead many kids are glued to a ce phone or laptop every waking moment.

People expecting trophies when they do good,when they really just did what everybody expects people to do anyways.

I found your wallet,where’s my reward ?

Then what happens when people do not get their way,they lash out and make people pay.

How many videos out there where people in fast food trash the place because the order was wrong or start screaming in order to make a scene.

There is a cure for a lot of it,usually in leather form about 2” wide and 36” long.

What was the guy looking for in this shooting,recognition.

The kids doing the school shootings,they want to be somebody and remembered at any cost.Because everybody deserves a gold star,if they do not get one,people pay.

[Henry Whalley]

i think it has more to do with people are caught up in their own little worlds...

tldr

[Honky Tonk]

tldr

Total Libtard Don't Read

[Jimaz]

Total Libtard Don't Read

Does using that contrived term make you feel righteous? Does it make you feel more effective? Why do you need to feel more effective than you are? Do you feel otherwise ineffective? Impotent?

[Honky Tonk]

Does using that contrived term make you feel righteous? Does it make you feel more effective? Why do you need to feel more effective than you are? Do you feel otherwise ineffective? Impotent?

You can answer your own question. How did you chastising me make you feel? Did you get a rise out of it? Maybe you can post a video of it? I'm sure you know there's websites for that sort of thing. You've been there.