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  1. #51

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    Although we are all thinking that the new arena is going to drive a lot of development in the Brush Park area, and rightfully so, I still think the key to the area will be what gets put on the Brewster site. Will it be residential towers, low income housing, retail? I'm hoping for a mix of 5-10 story residential towers and retail intertwined within. The remaining homes in Brush Park that were part of the original housing there would be great homes for renovations into B&B's or very small hotels. We should see fairly soon I'd think after all the demo of the Brewster area is over what kind of plan the city has. Maybe Gilbert has his eye on that plot of land as well.

  2. #52

    Default Detroit's historic Brush Park may finally see a revival

    I've always felt as though BP should be ripe for development given proximity to everything surrounding.

    http://www.freep.com/article/2014010...oit-Brush-Park

  3. #53

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    Beat me to it! I would propose merging these threads together...

    http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthr...767#post415767

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    I love your optimism. I've been waiting some 40 years for it to happen. I remember eating at White Castle, Red Barn and Jack in the Box [[in that order heading north on Woodward), looking east thinking about how BP could recapture its former glory.

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    Let's wait and see what the proposals are. Will be keeping architecturally historical attributes be cost preventative to developers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetherunit View Post
    I love your optimism. I've been waiting some 40 years for it to happen. I remember eating at White Castle, Red Barn and Jack in the Box [[in that order heading north on Woodward), looking east thinking about how BP could recapture its former glory.
    Hey I remember those days... Man thats when Brush Park was cool! It even had Burlesk houses!

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    I think Brush Park will be one hell of a place to live in a few years. I know that many people have noted, here and elsewhere, how the condos in the area didn't pan out [[in terms of value) for their owners. Anyone who stuck it out will be richly rewarded in a couple of years, I think. When I go to buy, that is just about my #1 desired area right now [[although where I want to buy changes periodically).

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    I'm cautiously optimistic. I think this has the best chance its had in years, given the increasing demand for midtown and downtown housing. I'm really glad that they are [[1) talking about new market-rate housing with a historic architecture theme and [[2) requiring a rehab of the few remaining original structures in the area.

    Curbed has a nice map of the parcels.

    http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2...ighborhood.php

    Developing parcel A would have a huge impact

    Parcel C is 312 Watson. I'd really like to see that rehabbed as I'm tired of the ruin porn pics of that in every New York Times article about Detroit.
    Last edited by DetroiterOnTheWestCoast; January-08-14 at 05:51 PM.

  9. #59

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    2 weeks later looks like some money may come.http://www.freep.com/article/2014010...69609686460799

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg19 View Post
    Let's wait and see what the proposals are. Will be keeping architecturally historical attributes be cost preventative to developers?
    what does this mean? somebody would have to build new houses exactly like all the old ones?

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    It's refreshing to see the City persevere and give this area another go. But "historic architecture theme"? The last thing Detroit needs is another olde timey theme park. I honestly hope that was just a poor choice of words by the Freep writer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto View Post
    It's refreshing to see the City persevere and give this area another go. But "historic architecture theme"? The last thing Detroit needs is another olde timey theme park. I honestly hope that was just a poor choice of words by the Freep writer.
    I think that what is meant by this is that infill residential will be in a character that complements the surviving housing stock. For example, the East Ferry Historic District had infill residential that complemented [[without pastische) the existing Ferry district...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ea...t_Michigan.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypestyles View Post
    what does this mean? somebody would have to build new houses exactly like all the old ones?
    I'm sure someone can explain better than I can, so please pitch in, but to my understanding, if the buildings need to be "architecturally comparable" for the RFP, they have to have certain design elements that are historically accurate to the area. You couldn't design homes in Brush Park that look like a modern art museum. Having said that, they don't need to look exactly like what is currently there either.

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    I'd like to see something along the lines of these new places in GR.

    http://www.realestateone.com/homes/1...apids-MI-49503

    http://www.realestateone.com/homes/1...apids-MI-49503

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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroiterOnTheWestCoast View Post
    Barf. Too generic/suburban looking. Plus, I am hoping to see something denser for this downtown neighborhood, more like 3-5 stories than 2-3. Hopefully retail can be mixed in too. This example would be better further from the core, it would be perfect in the North End or West Village.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casscorridor View Post
    Barf. Too generic/suburban looking. Plus, I am hoping to see something denser for this downtown neighborhood, more like 3-5 stories than 2-3. Hopefully retail can be mixed in too. This example would be better further from the core, it would be perfect in the North End or West Village.
    Actually Detroit would be very lucky to have that high quality type of housing... but due to the dismal housing values, no one in their right mind would put such expensive details into new housing stock, even in midtown.

    And if you're talking generic suburban looking, look no farther than Crosswinds at Woodward or the newer condos behid the DIA... they're cookie cutter to what is being built north of the big box stores along M-59/Hall Rd. in Macomb Township.

    These house images from DetroiterOnTheWestCoast would be more in keeping for new infill [[if there was any need) for the Grosse Pointes or Birmingham...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Actually Detroit would be very lucky to have that high quality type of housing... but due to the dismal housing values, no one in their right mind would put such expensive details into new housing stock, even in midtown.
    The price for the 3 story GR place is only 144/square foot. That is not out of line with much of what is selling in midtown so your synposis of the midtown market is way off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt1 View Post
    The price for the 3 story GR place is only 144/square foot. That is not out of line with much of what is selling in midtown so your synposis of the midtown market is way off.
    Are you basing your stats on the selling price of residential in Midtown? Because if you look at what Midtown real estate is selling for, and what the estimates of the properties are... there's often a huge gap between the two.

    http://www.zillow.com/midtown-detroit-mi/

    Perhaps a real estate person, such as Bham1982 will chime in to give some additional info...

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    Quote Originally Posted by casscorridor View Post
    Barf. Too generic/suburban looking. Plus, I am hoping to see something denser for this downtown neighborhood, more like 3-5 stories than 2-3. Hopefully retail can be mixed in too. This example would be better further from the core, it would be perfect in the North End or West Village.
    I'd like something like was originally there - which would be 2-3 stories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Are you basing your stats on the selling price of residential in Midtown? Because if you look at what Midtown real estate is selling for, and what the estimates of the properties are... there's often a huge gap between the two.

    http://www.zillow.com/midtown-detroit-mi/

    Perhaps a real estate person, such as Bham1982 will chime in to give some additional info...

    Based upon actuals. Of course, in the same vein, using Zillow or Trulia as a true indicator of value would be as silly as referencing list price as value of properties.

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    Yeah. Nice places in Midtown are approaching and sometimes surpassing $200/ft2. In Woodbridge, houses are appraising for near $85/ft2 if they are in good shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Are you basing your stats on the selling price of residential in Midtown? Because if you look at what Midtown real estate is selling for, and what the estimates of the properties are... there's often a huge gap between the two.

    http://www.zillow.com/midtown-detroit-mi/

    Perhaps a real estate person, such as Bham1982 will chime in to give some additional info...

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/71288712@N00/532703760/

    we need more of theese, contemporary inside historic looking facade, although these are original facades, the model should eb followed somewhat

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    I was looking at Brush Park when I was at a game at Comerica Park last year and was wondering why it's so neglected but the whole Midtown area has a lot happening in it. Brush Park is included in Midtown correct? I'm lost on how the boundaries for each section of town go.

    All I'd like to know is have they finally demolished those housing project buildings, the ones near where I-75 curves near Gratiot and I-375?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagoforlife View Post
    All I'd like to know is have they finally demolished those housing project buildings, the ones near where I-75 curves near Gratiot and I-375?
    Not the tall ones. Those are slated for demolition in the spring I believe. The mid-rise ones are coming down though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtowncitylover View Post
    Not the tall ones. Those are slated for demolition in the spring I believe. The mid-rise ones are coming down though.
    About time, those buildings were a huge eyesore.

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