50's McCarthyism and todays Glenn Beck yelling socialism

**ddaydetroit** · February-02-11, 04:38 AM

Does anyone else see a comparison to the 50's McCarthyism and Glenn Beck Yelling socialism

NorthEndere · February-02-11, 06:16 AM

Wrong forum.

**old guy** · February-02-11, 11:36 AM

Why yes. Yes I do.

**Detroitej72** · February-02-11, 11:41 AM

Yes, however McCarthy believed what he was screaming, while Beck is just concerned with making as much money as he can. The avenue that will lead him to that goal is by pretending to be a paranoid, crying and screaming buffoon.

**Mikeg** · February-02-11, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by ddaydetroit

Does anyone else see a comparison to the 50's McCarthyism and Glenn Beck Yelling socialism

What kind of coercive power does Beck have? Are private citizens getting hauled in front of Congressional Committees? Are private citizens getting blackballed for their beliefs and actions?

Answer those questions truthfully and I think a reasonable person would conclude that there is no comparison.

**Jimaz** · February-02-11, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by ddaydetroit

Does anyone else see a comparison to the 50's McCarthyism and Glenn Beck Yelling socialism

Other than that McCarthy was ranting about communism rather than socialism, yes, I see what you're implying.

What concerns me more is the general similarity between the Two Minutes' Hate and most of this hyperbolic sensationalism. It's as if someone [[Rove?) has taken Orwell's 1984 as a recipe for concentrating power rather than a warning that such concentration must be defeated. It's pretty daring to follow a recipe so closely when it's out there for everyone to read. Of course illiterate people would have never read 1984 which might explain a lot of things.

LOL! There's a link to the Fox News article at the above link.

gdogslim · February-02-11, 02:16 PM

All G. Beck does is repeat what the left says, then shows how they are wrong.
G. Beck may have the same coercive power that people like Kevin Rowe have.
Kevin Rowe, who produced the Sept. 11 conspiracy documentary, "Loose Change," was arrested in his hometown of Oneonta New York last week, according to authorities.
The 27-year-old conspiracy theorist allegedly sold seven packets of heroin to a narcotics officer, Loose-Change-filmmaker-charged-with-heroin-sale" the city's Daily Star reported. Rowe was arrested along with a Bronx teen, 19-year-old Daniel Marte Jr. the newspaper said.
Who has similar power to Charlie Sheen, who voiced over the farcical hoax, they are both druggies.

**maxx** · February-03-11, 07:43 PM

I guess there was one moment of hilarity on Billy O's show last fall. I read that some journalist called Beck crazy, but they couldn't have been speaking of BOR.

http://gawker.com/5378821/bill-oreil...iewers-zombies

I think Roger Ailes is just trying to find out how many people here will actually believe utter bs and at what level. I like the 2 Minutes of Hate analogy someone mentioned. That is certainly true for some Fox viewers. People believe what they want to believe.

**maxx** · February-07-11, 01:28 PM

Conservative Bill Kristol compared Beck to Birchites.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201102050009

**rb336** · February-07-11, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by gdogslim

All G. Beck does is repeat what the left says, then shows how they are wrong..

show me one example of him actually doing this

**hudkina** · February-07-11, 06:54 PM

You can really tell to whom a show is targeted by the advertisments. I watched one commercial break for Glen Beck and not one major brand was advertised. They have steered clear of that mess. All I saw was a creepy Christian Singles ad and a "the world is collapsing, so buy gold" ad. That means that the only people who should be watching Beck are creepy conservative Christians who think the world is coming to an end.

**Gistok** · February-07-11, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by hudkina

You can really tell to whom a show is targeted by the advertisments. I watched one commercial break for Glen Beck and not one major brand was advertised. They have steered clear of that mess. All I saw was a creepy Christian Singles ad and a "the world is collapsing, so buy gold" ad. That means that the only people who should be watching Beck are creepy conservative Christians who think the world is coming to an end.

The worst time to be buying precious metals is when they're at an all time high... and rather than following that comment with something snarky about Beck followers... I'll just say this... many of those people are angry [[i.e. Teaparty'ers)... just imagine how angry they'll be when they see that investment not pay off...

**ghettopalmetto** · February-07-11, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Gistok

The worst time to be buying precious metals is when they're at an all time high... and rather than following that comment with something snarky about Beck followers... I'll just say this... many of those people are angry [[i.e. Teaparty'ers)... just imagine how angry they'll be when they see that investment not pay off...

If those "investors" were bright to begin with, they probably wouldn't be listening to Glenn Beck.

**hudkina** · February-07-11, 09:52 PM

They won't have to worry. Fox News will figure out a way to blame it on liberals and socialists.

**oladub** · February-07-11, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Gistok

The worst time to be buying precious metals is when they're at an all time high... and rather than following that comment with something snarky about Beck followers... I'll just say this... many of those people are angry [[i.e. Teaparty'ers)... just imagine how angry they'll be when they see that investment not pay off...

Prices are not at their all time high when inflation is considered.
"Based on inflation through June 2010, the 1980 gold price peak would be $2,382 per troy ounce, based on not-seasonally-adjusted-CPI-U-adjusted dollars."

"In like manner, the all-time high price for silver in January 1980 of $49.45 per troy ounce [[London afternoon fix, per silverinstitute.org) has not been hit since, including in terms of inflation-adjusted dollars. Based on inflation through June 2010, the 1980 silver price peak would be $139 per troy ounce, based on not-seasonally-adjusted-CPI-U-adjusted dollars" -shadowstats

Prices are, however, higher than they have been for a long time and suggest some momentum buying which might well lead to a correction. That being the case, it might well not be the best time to invest in in precious metals. Anyone who listened to Beck a year or two ago could make a tidy profit if they sold now.

How about those who listened to the President? What would you suggest investing in? Should we invest in companies with close ties to this administration like Goldman Sachs, GE, and Monsanto and/or the companies which invested the most in the Obama campaign? Or should we invest in green energy? Or should we invest in municipal bonds? What are liberals investing in these days?

**Gistok** · February-07-11, 11:30 PM

Yes... we're well aware of the Bass brothers and their attempt to corner the silver market in 1980... you could have saved yourself a lot of typing [[so much... I didn't get to read it all...)

**oladub** · February-08-11, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by Gistok

Yes... we're well aware of the Bass brothers and their attempt to corner the silver market in 1980... you could have saved yourself a lot of typing [[so much... I didn't get to read it all...)

Had you read all the way to the end I asked a couple of questions. Since you don't think much of investing in precious metals, although you incorrectly stated that precious metals are selling at their peak, what are you recommending investing in right now and why ?

**hudkina** · February-08-11, 11:13 AM

Ford stock, duh!

**Jman** · February-08-11, 11:50 AM

I'm aware of the Hunt brothers. Who are the Bass brothers?

**rb336** · February-08-11, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by oladub

How about those who listened to the President? What would you suggest investing in? Should we invest in companies with close ties to this administration like Goldman Sachs, GE, and Monsanto and/or the companies which invested the most in the Obama campaign? Or should we invest in green energy? Or should we invest in municipal bonds? What are liberals investing in these days?

first off, what do you mean "what about those who listened to the president?"
second, most "liberals" are not obama supporters except by default, as he is in no way liberal.
third, intelligent investors - be they liberal, conservative, etc. invest in things they have researched. they try to avoid commodities that show the appearance of being "bubbles" [[which gold is looking like, which housing looked like, etc.).

**oladub** · February-08-11, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by rb336

first off, what do you mean "what about those who listened to the president?"
second, most "liberals" are not obama supporters except by default, as he is in no way liberal.
third, intelligent investors - be they liberal, conservative, etc. invest in things they have researched. they try to avoid commodities that show the appearance of being "bubbles" [[which gold is looking like, which housing looked like, etc.).

OK, so maybe you consider yourself to be a moderate or whatever and don't want to be associated with President Obama. Getting back to my unanswered question- You were very specific in your schadenfreude like criticism of Beck followers who actually took Beck's advice and vastly increased their wealth. You think they will soon be stuck with losses. Are you just as able to suggest what would be good investments? If you are so sure that precious metals will go down, do you think it would be a good idea to short precious metals? How about investing in Obama favored corporations as I previously suggested, or green energy, or what?

**Papasito** · February-08-11, 04:18 PM

Beck used to make some sense when he first went on TV
but now he sensationalizes everything and most of what he says is hype and bs.

**Gistok** · February-08-11, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Jman

I'm aware of the Hunt brothers. Who are the Bass brothers?

The Hunt brothers tried cornering the silver market... the Bass brothers the fish market... and they ended up hooking Eminem instead....

LOL at my own bad memory...

**maxx** · February-08-11, 05:44 PM

RE: the Bass Bros.

There's Mark and Jim who backed Eminem and then there's The Bass Brothers out of Texas, some of the largest contributors to W's campaign. That family funded the Biosphere project in AZ.

http://www.utwatch.org/utimco/bass.html

**rb336** · February-09-11, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by oladub

OK, so maybe you consider yourself to be a moderate or whatever and don't want to be associated with President Obama.

No, I consider myself a liberal who actually recognizes what it means to be liberal

You were very specific in your schadenfreude like criticism of Beck followers who actually took Beck's advice and vastly increased their wealth. You think they will soon be stuck with losses. Are you just as able to suggest what would be good investments? If you are so sure that precious metals will go down, do you think it would be a good idea to short precious metals? How about investing in Obama favored corporations as I previously suggested, or green energy, or what?

where do I say i would take pleasure from them losing money? the same huxters sell to uninformed "progressive" watchers as well. I do not think it is a good idea to short heavy metals. Any balanced portfolio should have some. These people are hawking them with the "there's no end in sight for metal prices" crap. Same as the housing hawks. I never focus on who-likes-what when i invest. I look at the companies, or the mutual fund philosophy, etc. I do RESEARCH