More Acorn Voter Fraud Comes to Light

[4real]

"Democrats are split on how to deal with Acorn, the liberal "community organizing" group that deployed thousands of get-out-the-vote workers last election. State and city Democratic officials -- who've been contending with its many scandals -- are moving against it. Washington Democrats are still sweeping Acorn abuses under a rug."In recent days, ACORN has been at the epicenter of
reports on thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registrations across the
nation -- including many by ex-felons -- submitted by ACORN employees in the
presidential swing states of Ohio, Colorado, Missouri Pennsylvania, New Mexico
and Minnesota.

They get poor people to sign up voters, if they don't meet their quota, they will fire them, so the poor Acorn workers sign up Joe Blow from Kokomo and his dog as a voter to meet their daily quota. Isn't that nice, all with taxpayer money.


Acorn, Obama's old employer, group by the way, didn't Obama just give a few million to his old company/group? kind of like a nice kickback to his buddies and the union goons there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-53obYAjtgg
Glen Beck kicks Acorn spokesman off his set.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1241...googlenews_wsj
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...14/detail.html

[firstandten]

"Democrats are split on how to deal with Acorn, the liberal "community organizing" group that deployed thousands of get-out-the-vote workers last election. State and city Democratic officials -- who've been contending with its many scandals -- are moving against it. Washington Democrats are still sweeping Acorn abuses under a rug."In recent days, ACORN has been at the epicenter of
reports on thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registrations across the
nation -- including many by ex-felons -- submitted by ACORN employees in the
presidential swing states of Ohio, Colorado, Missouri Pennsylvania, New Mexico
and Minnesota.

They get poor people to sign up voters, if they don't meet their quota, they will fire them, so the poor Acorn workers sign up Joe Blow from Kokomo and his dog as a voter to meet their daily quota. Isn't that nice, all with taxpayer money.


Acorn, Obama's old employer, group by the way, didn't Obama just give a few million to his old company/group? kind of like a nice kickback to his buddies and the union goons there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-53obYAjtgg
Glen Beck kicks Acorn spokesman off his set.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1241...googlenews_wsj
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...14/detail.html

Whats your point ?

I think we went over the differences between voter registration fraud and election fraud [[ you know the voting machine companies owned by the big republican donors)

Acorn was never Obama's employer

Since Murdoch purchased the WSJ I lost a lot of respect for that paper

Being a community organizer I would be shocked it Obama didn't have some kind of relationship with Acorn but I highly doubt that anything even bordered on being illegal.

Since you're so eager to talk about improper relationships how about checking up on the friendship of the Bushes and the Bin Laden family maybe you can shed some light that we didn't know beforehand.

[rb336]

republican groups do the same. the difference? Acorn routinely screens the registrations and flags potential problems. If you look at the paper trail for virtually any of these stories, the info "came to light" because ACORN notified authorities of potential problems.

[oldredfordette]

Beck kicked the guy off after it was obvious that the Acorn guy was holding his own. What a clown.

[rb336]

ALL of those guys are cowards. not one will debate in an open forum in the US where they don't get to run the show, although Beck seems to enjoy getting his arse handed to him on a platter overseas

[ghettopalmetto]

"Democrats are split on how to deal with Acorn, the liberal "community organizing" group that deployed thousands of get-out-the-vote workers last election. State and city Democratic officials -- who've been contending with its many scandals -- are moving against it. Washington Democrats are still sweeping Acorn abuses under a rug."In recent days, ACORN has been at the epicenter of
reports on thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registrations across the
nation -- including many by ex-felons -- submitted by ACORN employees in the
presidential swing states of Ohio, Colorado, Missouri Pennsylvania, New Mexico
and Minnesota.

They get poor people to sign up voters, if they don't meet their quota, they will fire them, so the poor Acorn workers sign up Joe Blow from Kokomo and his dog as a voter to meet their daily quota. Isn't that nice, all with taxpayer money.


Acorn, Obama's old employer, group by the way, didn't Obama just give a few million to his old company/group? kind of like a nice kickback to his buddies and the union goons there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-53obYAjtgg
Glen Beck kicks Acorn spokesman off his set.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1241...googlenews_wsj
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...14/detail.html

Why should "Washington Democrats" have to defend ACORN? ACORN isn't part of the party apparatus.

In case you never bothered to notice, there are usually anomalies and ineligible registrants in *any* voter-registration drive or petition, whether ACORN is involved or not. It's not the job of the DNC to screen these lists to determine eligibility.

But we can't dare educated people to expect to remember these trivial matters from their 9th grade civics classes, can we?

[oldredfordette]

For the record,Acorn is anti union, they have fought against the IWW's organizing drives for years. Even in the very best of times,there is a very uneasy relationship between unions and Acorn.

Anybody in the Detroit area who wants to find out more about Acorn should visit their Detroit offices. Walk in and ask them yourself.

I know you won't. It's not in your orders to do real research, only to parrot what is given to you.

[MoparDan]

Cripes. The election is over. Go buy yourself some kleenex & Vagisil.

[oladub]

Would someone explain the need for ACORN to be a 'partner' in the 2010 census or the basis of the White House running the census instead of the Commerce Department as required by the Constitution. Granted, the Commerce Department might still rubber stamp it, but why should White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel even be involved in this?

"The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now signed on as a national partner with the U.S. Census Bureau in February 2009 to assist with the recruitment of the 1.4 million temporary workers needed to go door-to-door to count every person in the United States -- currently believed to be more than 306 million people.

A U.S. Census "sell sheet," an advertisement used to recruit national partners, says partnerships with groups like ACORN "play an important role in making the 2010 Census successful," including by "help[ing] recruit census workers."
The bureau is currently employing help from more than 250 national partners, including TARGET"

"ACORN spokesman Scott Levenson told FOXNews.com that "ACORN as an organization has not been charged with any crime." He added that fears that the organization will unfairly influence the census are unfounded.
"It will be the Census Bureau that determines the role and scope of its 300 national partners. ACORN is committed to a fair and accurate count," Levenson said." http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...-acorn-census/

[rb336]

there is nothing nefarious about ACORN "partnering" with the census bureau. instead of goinf off half-cocked, perhaps you should learn what is going on. The census bureau regularly enlists various community groups to get out the information that it is important to take part in the census. that is all this partnership is about

[Detroit Stylin]

Cripes. The election is over. Go buy yourself some kleenex & Vagisil.

LMBAO @ that one......

[Lorax]

This thread is nothing but a red herring.

ACORN does far more good than harm.

Registering people who are illigitimate voters means nothing, since they can't get into the voting booth to cast a vote without proper identification anyway.

There is no fraud here, only the Repugnican Reich trying to score points where there are none.

Furthermore we wouldn't need ACORN if the Repugnicans weren't notorious about REAL voter fraud, poll taxes, crazy rules and guidelines for voting, which are illegal- case in point- the Macomb County Repugnican Party was purposely trying to disenfranchise voters by claiming if your house was in foreclosure, you couldn't vote. These people are shameless liars and frauds.

Kenneth Blackwell, the former Ohio Secretary of State was in the bag for the Repugnican Reich by making sure heavily democratic counties had only a few voting booths, and purposely closed some of them early, or didn't open some at all.

The head of Diebold Corporation in 2004 stated publicly that they were going to "deliver" Ohio for George Bush, and they did. They are all frauds, cheats, liars, and should all be imprisoned.

[Detroitej72]

Clowns like Beck need some wild allegations to keep their loyal watchers tuned in, otherwise they loose ratings and ad revenue and then find themselves on the unemployment line.

[lilpup]

Clowns like Beck need some wild allegations to keep their loyal watchers tuned in, otherwise they loose ratings and ad revenue and then find themselves on the unemployment line.

Someone should ask Beck about his posturing while working with his openly gay book editor.

[oladub]

there is nothing nefarious about ACORN "partnering" with the census bureau. instead of goinf off half-cocked, perhaps you should learn what is going on. The census bureau regularly enlists various community groups to get out the information that it is important to take part in the census. that is all this partnership is about

The article referenced did say that either 250 or 300 groups were 'partners' of the census bureau. One of the other partners was the NAACP. Unlike ACORN, the NAACP does not have a reputation for activities gone awry. My suggestion, if partners are necessary , would be to restrict partnerships to credible organizations. Of course, Mr. Levenson assured us that ACORN has not been charged with any crimes. I'm releaved.

Lorax, you make a good point about Diebold but two wrongs do not make a right although I think you inferred that ACORN was a partisan organization - as if, perhaps, ACORN would somehow balance off Republican misdeeds.

[ccbatson]

Democrats are not split over ACORN...only about how to avoid getting caught with them.

[Detroitej72]

Democrats are not split over ACORN...only about how to avoid getting caught with them.

Prove it, and I don't mean some propaganda from FauxNews or some neo-con's blog.

[ccbatson]

Proof? Listen to the public statements from Obama, and other politicians when they were trying [[but failing) to distance themselves from ACORN during the last election.

[Detroitej72]

Proof? Listen to the public statements from Obama, and other politicians when they were trying [[but failing) to distance themselves from ACORN during the last election.

So, you have nothing then? I accept your defeat.

[Lorax]

Democrats are not split over ACORN...only about how to avoid getting caught with them.

Repugnicans are not split over Dickhead Cheney...only about how to avoid getting caught with him.

[Lorax]

Proof? Listen to the public statements from Obama, and other politicians when they were trying [[but failing) to distance themselves from ACORN during the last election.

Sort of like how John McShame tried to distance himself from Rev. Hagee who called the Catholic Church the "great whore"

Or how McShame tried to distance himself from one of the PNAC founders, Carl Lindner, head of Chiquita Banana, for his illegal arms deals with the Sandonistas in the 80's.

Or how McShame DIDN'T try to distance himself from G. Gordon Liddy, our only homegrown terrorist allowed a talk show by the fascist Clear Channel Communications.

Or how McShame DID finally, after the election, distance himself from Saracuda Failin' and her merry band of trailer trash, and wouldn't even acknowledge her as being dominant in the Repugnican party.

Geez- what a disaster that would have been with them in the White House.

[ghettopalmetto]

Would someone explain the need for ACORN to be a 'partner' in the 2010 census or the basis of the White House running the census instead of the Commerce Department as required by the Constitution. Granted, the Commerce Department might still rubber stamp it, but why should White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel even be involved in this?

And which paragraph of the Constitution requires the Commerce Department to conduct the decennial Census? Here's a hint: the Department of Commerce and Labor was created on February 14, 1903.

Of course, you recognize that, as a Cabinet-level agency, the Department of Commerce is ultimately accountable to the President, and always has been. Stop fronting with your manufactured outrage.

[ccbatson]

Psst..McCain did not win, and is not the President.

[rb336]

Proof? Listen to the public statements from Obama, and other politicians when they were trying [[but failing) to distance themselves from ACORN during the last election.

never heard a public statement like that at all -- Obama [[truthfully) explained that he did NOT work for Acorn [[wich was needed against the barrage of lies your side spewed about him), but that was the extent of it

[oladub]

And which paragraph of the Constitution requires the Commerce Department to conduct the decennial Census? Here's a hint: the Department of Commerce and Labor was created on February 14, 1903.

Of course, you recognize that, as a Cabinet-level agency, the Department of Commerce is ultimately accountable to the President, and always has been. Stop fronting with your manufactured outrage.

Ghettopalmetto. Good point about 1903! I stand corrected. The Commerce Department conducts the census as required by statute rather than the Constitution. Now I feel better. The Obama administration is only violating a statute.

"Here's an argument that it's unconstitutional for the president to take over the Census from the secretary of commerce. It goes like this: Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution provides for an "actual enumeration" and a statute passed by Congress provides that the duties under this clause are to be performed by the secretary of commerce. Article I ... is about the legislative, not the executive branch. Hence, it is argued, the president can't substitute a sampling for the enumeration required to be done by the secretary.

However, it is undoubtedly true that the president can fire the secretary of commerce for any reason, including failure to conduct the Census the way he wants the Census conducted. An acting secretary could conduct the Census the way the president wanted, even if the Senate refused to confirm a new secretary of commerce who would.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2...stitution.html

Take your pick, the Obama administration is skirting the law. I am not feigning outrage. The more I see of this administration, the more closely it resembles that of Hugo Chavez.