Who are the Family?

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http://www.truth-out.org/c-street-re...ification66406
"...Members of C Street, 'the underground network of Christ's men in Washington'" include Sens. Don Nickles [[R-Oklahoma), Charles Grassley [[R-Iowa), Pete Domenici [[R-New Mexico), John Ensign [[R-Nevada), James Inhofe [[R-Oklahoma), Bill Nelson [[D-Florida) and Bill Nelson [[D-Florida), as well as Reps. Jim DeMint [[R-South Carolina), Frank Wolf [[R-Virginia.), Joseph Pitts [[R Pennsylvania), Zach Wamp [[R-Tennessee) and Bart Stupak [[D-Michigan), and believe they have been appointed by God..."

[Jimaz]

An interview with Jeff Sharlet, author of "C Street."

[Jimaz]

The Family's Ties

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Rand and Ron Paul's connections to christian reconstructionism.
http://www.religiondispatches.org/di...were_christian
"...The younger Paul may not be an ardent Christian Reconstructionist -- he may not even realize its influence on his views -- but his father, Congressman Ron Paul, used to employ one of Christian Reconstrutionism's leading thinkers, Gary North, on his staff. North is the son-in-law of the founder of Christian Reconstructionism, R.J. Rushdoony....Reconstructionists share the worldview of the John Birch Society, which as Adele Stan reported, has enthusiastically praised Paul's victory over Republican Trey Grayson....Many Christian Reconstructionists believe certain forms of slavery are biblical. As I wrote in a post last month, the resurgence of the JBS [[it was a co-sponsor of this year's Conservative Political Action Conference) alongside Christian Reconstructionism signals a resurgence of the sort of mish-mash of states' rights and individual liberty arguments made by libertarians and tea partiers -- in Paul's case, federal civil rights laws are portrayed as some sort of government invasion of liberty -- in which civil rights protections are flipped on their head and portrayed as antithetical to [[white people's) freedom...."

[oladub]

During his presidential campaign, Ron Paul quoted Sinclair Lewis in reference to Huckeby, 'When fascism comes to this country it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'... That doesn't sound like the remark of a 'Christian Reconstructionist' to me.

Can you point out examples of Ron Paul forcing his religious views down anyone's throats? He was also booed at a religious right gathering along the campaign trail for refusing to support certain anti-abortion legislation because he said he had no constitutional authority to do so at the federal level.

Nice try maxx. I like the use of illogical connections. Let's see,

"Congressman Ron Paul, used to employ one of Christian Reconstrutionism's leading thinkers, Gary North, on his staff. North is the son-in-law of the founder of Christian Reconstructionism, . R.J. Rushdoony .... Reconstructionists share the worldview of the John Birch Society, which as Adele Stan reported, has enthusiastically praised Paul's victory over Republican Trey Grayson

I get it! Rand Paul is a 'Christian Reconstructionist' because, surprise, surprise, the Birch Society was glad a Democrat lost and this was because of the in-laws of a staffer his father once hired! Let's extend the same sort of logic. The Bush family, Cheney, and President Obama all have common ancestors. We aren't talking in-laws here but blood relatives. Maybe the Birch Society secretly supports Obama too. We can't be too careful if they share the same blood. I can otherwise understand your expressed liberal antipathy toward states' rights and individual freedom.

But to get your head out of liberal talking points of a year ago, here are the two doctors being interviewed by Anderson Cooper this week. It would be difficult to find many Democrats who are as enthusiastic about cutting military spending.
http://libertymaven.com/2011/01/03/r...per-360/11128/

[maxx]

Right. Anyone would have hired Olly North who was also big into the shepherding discipleship otherwise known as allowing some church employee to dictate how you live your life. Fundie christians are a different mentality entirely.

[oladub]

Right. Anyone would have hired Olly North who was also big into the shepherding discipleship otherwise known as allowing some church employee to dictate how you live your life. Fundie christians are a different mentality entirely.

In post #4 you brought up Gary North as the link between his father-in-law and the Birch Society not supporting a Democrat or some such thing. In post #6, you brought up Olly North. Did you mean Olly or Gary? Were you thinking or Ollie? Not having heard of Gary North, Google verified that, indeed, Gary North, not Olly or even Ollie, worked for Ron Paul in his first term over 30 years ago. And what specifically were Gary North's evil accomplishments between 1976-1978 when he was 24-26 years old?

[maxx]

I meant Gary North. I shouldn't post when I have a sinus headache.
He started the Institute for Christian Economics around 1976 which published christ. recon books. He wrote An Intro. to Christ. Econ. in 1973. so he's been pushing his brand of hogwash for a long time. Do you think Ron Paul hadn't read North's book when he hired him? In fact Paul's whole idea of going back to the gold standard smacks of North's Christ. Econ.

http://books.google.com/books?id=54O...ics%22&f=false

Note 83.

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from Human RIghts Campaign:

U.S. pastors are exporting bigotry to Uganda, with brutal results.

This is an issue close to my heart, because I've spent over a decade working for equality as a lay leader in my own church, and now, as acting director of HRC's Religion and Faith program – which helps religious leaders of all stripes speak out for equality and fight back when hatred is promoted in the name of religion.

On Thursday, that perversion of faith cost Ugandan gay rights advocate David Kato his life. He was bludgeoned to death in his home after his name was among those listed in an anti-gay magazine, under the headline "Hang them!"

Since at least 2009, radical U.S. Christian missionaries have added anti-gay conferences and workshops in Uganda to their anti-gay efforts in the U.S. – and now they're beginning to ordain ministers and build churches across East Africa focused almost entirely on preaching against homosexuality.

These American extremists didn't call for David's death. But they created a climate of hate that breeds violence – and they must stop and acknowledge they were wrong.

... three men who have gone out of their way to promote hatred:

• Scott Lively of Massachusetts held an anti-gay conference in Uganda with two other U.S. pastors. A few months later, a bill was introduced in Uganda that would make homosexuality punishable by death.
• Lou Engle, a Missouri preacher whose rallies draw tens of thousands in the U.S., spoke at a rally in Uganda this year that focused on praying for the bill's passage. [[Engle claims not to support some parts of the bill, but internal documents show he came to speak about "the threat of homosexuality," and defend the Ugandan government's efforts to "curb the growth of the vice using the law.")
• And Carl Ellis Jenkins of Georgia is presiding over a group that's opening 50 new churches in Uganda to "help clean up bad morals, including homosexuality" according to his staff.

They have been stirring up hostility in a country where homosexuality is already illegal, violent attacks are common, rape is used to 'cure' people of their sexual orientation – and a shocking law has been proposed that would make homosexuality punishable by life imprisonment or even death.

And they're in lockstep with some of the largest and wealthiest right-wing groups in the U.S. When the U.S. Congress considered a resolution denouncing the grotesque Ugandan death-penalty-for-gays bill, the extreme-right Family Research Council – now classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center – spent $25,000 lobbying to stop the resolution from passing.