Free Medical Training in Cuba

[maxx]

In terms of medical education, Cuba puts us to shame.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...free-ride.html
Cuba Offers Poor Medical Students a Free Ride

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/healt...uba_12-21.html
Cuba's Emphasis on Preventive Medicine

[Jimaz]

In terms of medical education, Cuba puts us to shame.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...free-ride.html
Cuba Offers Poor Medical Students a Free Ride

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/healt...uba_12-21.html
Cuba's Emphasis on Preventive Medicine

This has pretty much always been the case. I've always wondered whether Guevara [[a poor physician himself) had any influence over this policy.

[Gannon]

They totally CURED adult-onset diabetes.


Where are WE on that illness?!

Sick and sickerer.


Thanks, FDA!

[Gistok]

They totally CURED adult-onset diabetes.

Gannon... wasn't that due to food shortages??

[Gannon]

Nope!

Oil embargo, forcing most to walk, jog, or bike everywhere.

Plus, no High Fructose Corn Syrup in their diet.

Nor cheap carbohydrates served up by our multi-national corporations.


Plus, a healthcare system that doesn't use profit-taking insurance companies to create the gameboard and rules! They actually do preventive care in homes...

[ejames01]

There are no profits in health.

Nope!

Oil embargo, forcing most to walk, jog, or bike everywhere.

Plus, no High Fructose Corn Syrup in their diet.

Nor cheap carbohydrates served up by our multi-national corporations.


Plus, a healthcare system that doesn't use profit-taking insurance companies to create the gameboard and rules! They actually do preventive care in homes...

[Gannon]

I've always heard that in the Chinese system, they ONLY pay their doctors when they're healthy.

That's when they're doing their job properly!

[littlebuddy]

It isn't the lack of medical ed. that hurts us, it is that we make bad choice after bad choice with regards to our own health. Most of us know what to do, we just do not want to do it and then we want the best medical care to fix us.

[maxx]

It costs a lot to educate M.D.'s in this country. People come out of medical school hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. So naturally they want to get a high-paying job in an affluent neighborhood. And the poor have Remote Medical International.
http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=6758

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...52C1A9619C8B63

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/23/ny...me&ref=general
[I know someone who is attending a Caribbean medical school He'll do his hospital training at Wayne State. The AMA has had pretty good control of the number of doctors in the U.S. up until now.]

"...With experts predicting a shortage of 90,000 doctors in the United States by 2020, the defenders of these schools say that they fill a need because their graduates are more likely than their American-trained peers to go into primary and family care, rather than into higher-paying specialties like surgery..."

[Papasito]

I've always heard that in the Chinese system, they ONLY pay their doctors when they're healthy.

That's when they're doing their job properly!

We should start learning Chinese now, that way we can communicate with who's running things more efficiently.

[oladub]

During the Cultural Revolution, lawyers were hauled off to remote farm areas as 'social parasites' along with prostitutes and gamblers for 'reeducation'. It served as tort reform I suppose. I wouldn't want anything like that to happen to most lawyers I know but tort reform is a given in the Chinese and Cuban health care systems as well as any other Canadian-European single payer plan that I know of.

[maxx]

Meanwhile, we're so much better off here in Michigan because we can't sue drug companies. Is there a drug company with HQs in Michigan to still protect?

[oladub]

Meanwhile, we're so much better off here in Michigan because we can't sue drug companies. Is there a drug company with HQs in Michigan to still protect?

I don't know, My Aunt worked for Parke-Davis when was bought up by Phizer and moved to New Jersey. Didn't Upjohn move from Michigan too? I wonder why.

I'm curious why the unions, churches, or the caring political party haven't opened up, at least, their own non-profit generic drug companies to dispense inexpensive or free drugs maybe even low cost Cuban drugs. It seems more practical than sniping at the for-profits.

[Relayer76]

They totally CURED adult-onset diabetes.


Where are WE on that illness?!

Sick and sickerer.


Thanks, FDA!

Gannon, you are wrong on this one. Take it from a Canuck who has been there several times. The rate of diabetes is high in Cuba as they produce sugar and all Cubans receive a lot of sugar as part of their basic rations that they all get so that no one starves to death - along with their free education and free health care.

[Gannon]

Tell it to Faith Morgan.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0814275/plotsummary

I am merely the messenger...passing along a comment MADE in passing in that documentary.

I was almost the only one in the crowd to notice it, too.


Adult-onset diabetes had been eliminated in Cuba. It may have ONLY been for the time period of the analysis, but they said it. They must've had some proof, right?! LOL


It fits all of the data I have on the subject, so I repeated it. You just gave me MORE, so we must use the term 'nearly' eradicated. They now have trouble with the younger generation eating too many sweet things...

[maxx]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0928214552.htm
" Researchers from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Cienfuegos, Cuba and Loyola University had a unique opportunity to observe the impact of population-wide weight loss due to sustained reductions in caloric intake and an increase in energy output. This situation occurred during the economic crisis of Cuba in 1989-2000. As a result, obesity declined, as did deaths attributed to diabetes, coronary heart disease and stroke.

'This is the first, and probably the only, natural experiment, born of unfortunate circumstances, where large effects on diabetes, cardiovascular disease and all-cause mortality have been related to sustained population-wide weight loss as a result of increased physical activity and reduced caloric intake,' said Manuel Franco, MD, a PhD candidate in the Bloomberg School of Public Health's Department of Epidemiology...'

[gdogslim]

Yes, we all know Cuba is an economic success by all measures, thats why everyone wants to move there and where all the worlds richest people go to receive medical treatment and all the US hospitals strive to hire people from Cuba.

[maxx]

So where the richest people spend their money is supposed to be the measure for the rest of the world? So you don't count if you don't shop regularly at Cartier's and Tiffany? If you don't vacation abroad regularly? If you don't have a yacht?

[Gannon]

Yes, we all know Cuba is an economic success by all measures, thats why everyone wants to move there and where all the worlds richest people go to receive medical treatment and all the US hospitals strive to hire people from Cuba.

Perhaps economic success and the extraordinary pursuit to delay that inevitable end of life isn't where our focus should be...


...who GIVES A SHIT where rich people go for their expensive fixes when our country is declining in the effectiveness of keeping children alive up to and past the age of five?!


If you cannot learn from the least around you, then you are truly ignorant indeed.

[Gannon]

Thanks Maxx, I blasted off before reading your post.

You said it better. I am angry now...gotta go breathe it out.

[gdogslim]

Yes we all know how great government controlled monopolys all work out.
I would love free health care too, but at a price of total government control no thank you.

http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA557...alth_Care.html
Cuba's Heath Care System: The Reality
Under the Cuban government's health care monopoly, the state assumes complete control. Private, non-governmental health facilities, where ailing citizens could buy treatment, are illegal.7 As a result, average Cubans suffer long waits at government hospitals, while many services and technologies are available only to the Cuban party elite and foreign "health tourists" who pay with hard currency. Moreover, access to such rudimentary medicines as antibiotics and Aspirin can be limited, and there are reports that citizens excluded from the foreign-only hospitals often must bring their own bed sheets and blankets while in care.8
Despite the reality, Cuba's universal health system continues to be glorified. "Defenders of Cuba's communist government cite universal health care and education as 'gains of the revolution,' claiming the average Cuban is far better off today than under the dictatorship of Fulgencia Batista," wrote Tom Carter of the Washington Times.9 Moreover, "The health care system is often touted by many analysts as one of the Castro government's greatest achievements," says an updated 2002 State Department report, which rejects the notion that Cuba's health conditions have significantly improved for most Cuban citizens since 1958.

Cuba is a disaster, ask any cuban living in Miami.
Cuba’s Healthcare Horror
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/10/c...thcare-horror/
Foreign correspondents covering Cuba admit they soften the critical edges on their stories to keep the government from kicking them out. Just like in China.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/02/2...e-of-self.html

[oldredfordette]

A right wing anti health care website doesn't like Cuba? Shocking! Front page magazine, mouthpiece for right wing ideologue David Horowitz, listening to the stories of Cuban criminals? Incredible! The Washington Times, owned by the Moonies, finds Cuba's health care lacking? Unbelievable!

Don't change, gdog. You are a non stop laugh machine. The links you have been provided with are stupid beyond comprehension, but you're childlike belief in them is cute.

[Jimaz]

From The Independent: Cuban medics in Haiti put the world to shame

They are the real heroes of the Haitian earthquake disaster, the human catastrophe on America's doorstep which Barack Obama pledged a monumental US humanitarian mission to alleviate. Except these heroes are from America's arch-enemy Cuba, whose doctors and nurses have put US efforts to shame.

A medical brigade of 1,200 Cubans is operating all over earthquake-torn and cholera-infected Haiti, as part of Fidel Castro's international medical mission which has won the socialist state many friends, but little international recognition.

Observers of the Haiti earthquake could be forgiven for thinking international aid agencies were alone in tackling the devastation that killed 250,000 people and left nearly 1.5 million homeless. In fact, Cuban healthcare workers have been in Haiti since 1998, so when the earthquake struck the 350-strong team jumped into action. And amid the fanfare and publicity surrounding the arrival of help from the US and the UK, hundreds more Cuban doctors, nurses and therapists arrived with barely a mention. Most countries were gone within two months, again leaving the Cubans and Médecins Sans Frontières as the principal healthcare providers for the impoverished Caribbean island.

Figures released last week show that Cuban medical personnel, working in 40 centres across Haiti, have treated more than 30,000 cholera patients since October. They are the largest foreign contingent, treating around 40 per cent of all cholera patients....

Since 1998, Cuba has trained 550 Haitian doctors for free at the Escuela Latinoamericana de Medicina en Cuba [[Elam), one of the country's most radical medical ventures. Another 400 are currently being trained at the school, which offers free education – including free books and a little spending money – to anyone sufficiently qualified who cannot afford to study medicine in their own country.

John Kirk is a professor of Latin American studies at Dalhousie University in Canada who researches Cuba's international medical teams. He said: "Cuba's contribution in Haiti is like the world's greatest secret. They are barely mentioned, even though they are doing much of the heavy lifting."...

[Gistok]

Oldredfordette.... he has a hard time between differentiating between a "blog" and a "valid news source"...

[oldredfordette]

From the World Health Organization: http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/.../en/index.html