What's next for DPS ?

**showstoppa** · December-08-10, 06:23 PM

I'm surprised this thread has not been started, but Judge Wendy Baxter ruled that Robert Bobb cannot control academics for DPS. Now with the School Board regaining control of this, and Bobb's contract expiring in March. What should happen next with DPS.

Should Governor-elect Snyder take control, should the board regain control over everything and the status-quo continues. This is simply depressing to me, so I ask whats happens next ?

**kraig** · December-08-10, 06:34 PM

History will show that bringing in Bobb was the status quo.

**daddeeo** · December-08-10, 08:04 PM

I don't see how it could get much worse. It's been completely disfunctional for so long.

**firstandten** · December-08-10, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by kraig

History will show that bringing in Bobb was the status quo.

We can debate on if overall Bobb is [[was) effective in a number of areas. However I'm positive that we would have NEVER seen the extent of rightsizing of buildings and personnel within DPS under the present board set-up. The board would never have the political will to do such a thing.

**detroitbob** · December-08-10, 11:28 PM

Synder has no allegiance to Detroit...the registered voters in Detroit didn't vote for him. With Lansing firmly in Republican control come January 2010 it is anyones guess what will happen. My feeling is the school board is toast as far as Lansing is concerned, just how long it will take for his minions to act is the mystery.

**showstoppa** · December-08-10, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by detroitbob

Synder has no allegiance to Detroit...the registered voters in Detroit didn't vote for him. With Lansing firmly in Republican control come January 2010 it is anyones guess what will happen. My feeling is the school board is toast as far as Lansing is concerned, just how long it will take for his minions to act is the mystery.

Snyder has been quoted as saying that he believes Detroit [[and other cities) are key to turning Michigan around. If the board doesn't get it's act together you think he will work with them ?

**detroitbob** · December-09-10, 01:00 AM

No, if they don't "get their act" together the board is history by what every means possible by Lansing. At Monday's meeting they stated that they liked the progress that Bobb had made, they just didn't like the man that did it. Same ego driven bull. The comment was probably meant as conciliatory to Lansing...but again sounded ego driven and arrogant.

**Zacha341** · December-09-10, 06:23 AM

Indeed. Everyone cashes in on the remaining coffers of DPS... He did bring along his own well-heeled enterouge of high paid consultants and what not.

Originally Posted by kraig

History will show that bringing in Bobb was the status quo.

**Zacha341** · December-09-10, 06:29 AM

That's a valid point. The problem with Bobb is that he made cuts over here while spending money for his people and consultants from out of state over there... Thus, the budget is still blown with more draconian cuts to come.

The 'culture' of excessively high rate billing and payments for outside services, contractors and vendors [[questionable, spurious or not) has little changed in DPS! Now just different people are billing. Some of whom will simply pack their bags and go back out of state once this is all over. Again leaving us to ourselves.

Originally Posted by firstandten

We can debate on if overall Bobb is [[was) effective in a number of areas. However I'm positive that we would have NEVER seen the extent of rightsizing of buildings and personnel within DPS under the present board set-up. The board would never have the political will to do such a thing.

**detroitbob** · December-09-10, 10:01 AM

It's a new sheriff in town, boys, he's a nerd and worshiped at the Church of Engler and DeVoss...and he be cleaning up things...it's a bumpy flight boys and girls...fasten those seat belts .

**kraig** · December-09-10, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by firstandten

We can debate on if overall Bobb is [[was) effective in a number of areas. However I'm positive that we would have NEVER seen the extent of rightsizing of buildings and personnel within DPS under the present board set-up. The board would never have the political will to do such a thing.

The amount of schools being closed under Bobb is pretty much in line with what had been closed by the School Board before Bobb got there. Status quo. The governor sending someone to takeover DPS to spend hundreds of millions of dollars approved by Detroit voters. Engler did it when 1.5 billion was on the line, and at that time, the district had a close to three hundred million dollar surplus. Granholm sent in Bobb and he got voters to approve a five hundred million dollar bond proposal. Status quo. Additionally, Englers plan resulted in a worse financial situation and lower test scores for the district and Granholm/Bobb are doing the same. Again, status quo.

Bobb received false credit because he pissed off the schoolboard by using their very same tactics, tactics that we never liked with them and shouldn't have been accepted with Bobb's usage, and reporters like Rochelle Riley wrote puff and praise pieces for him.

**hamtown mike** · December-09-10, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by kraig

The amount of schools being closed under Bobb is pretty much in line with what had been closed by the School Board before Bobb got there.

60+ schools closed in a 2 year period is NOT in line with the amount of schools previously closed by the board. This is a very clear case of having to bring in an outsider, with no direct attachment-positive or negative, to make the hard decisions that those in power were either incapable [[due to lack of business sense) or unwilling [[for fear of losing their seats) to make.

Mr. Bobb has nothing to lose. Once his time is up, it's up. However members of the school board [[including an illiterate masturbating president) had everything to lose.

**Zacha341** · December-09-10, 10:37 AM

I'm hip and we had it so great already under Jenny per what ever place of authority she was worshiping at...

Originally Posted by detroitbob

It's a new sheriff in town, boys, he's a nerd and worshiped at the Church of Engler and DeVoss...and he be cleaning up things...it's a bumpy flight boys and girls...fasten those seat belts .

**Zacha341** · December-09-10, 10:39 AM

Well stated... indeed. But more schools were closed than ever before.

Originally Posted by kraig

The amount of schools being closed under Bobb is pretty much in line with what had been closed by the School Board before Bobb got there. Status quo. The governor sending someone to takeover DPS to spend hundreds of millions of dollars approved by Detroit voters. Engler did it when 1.5 billion was on the line, and at that time, the district had a close to three hundred million dollar surplus. Granholm sent in Bobb and he got voters to approve a five hundred million dollar bond proposal. Status quo. Additionally, Englers plan resulted in a worse financial situation and lower test scores for the district and Granholm/Bobb are doing the same. Again, status quo.

Bobb received false credit because he pissed off the schoolboard by using their very same tactics, tactics that we never liked with them and shouldn't have been accepted with Bobb's usage, and reporters like Rochelle Riley wrote puff and praise pieces for him.

**detroitbob** · December-09-10, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by hamtown mike

60+ schools closed in a 2 year period is NOT in line with the amount of schools previously closed by the board. This is a very clear case of having to bring in an outsider, with no direct attachment-positive or negative, to make the hard decisions that those in power were either incapable [[due to lack of business sense) or unwilling [[for fear of losing their seats) to make.

Mr. Bobb has nothing to lose. Once his time is up, it's up. However members of the school board [[including an illiterate masturbating president) had everything to lose.

and if the Board runs wild after the Bobb era the students [[or whats left of them) are the final jeopardy users.

**kraig** · December-09-10, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by hamtown mike

60+ schools closed in a 2 year period is NOT in line with the amount of schools previously closed by the board. This is a very clear case of having to bring in an outsider, with no direct attachment-positive or negative, to make the hard decisions that those in power were either incapable [[due to lack of business sense) or unwilling [[for fear of losing their seats) to make.

Mr. Bobb has nothing to lose. Once his time is up, it's up. However members of the school board [[including an illiterate masturbating president) had everything to lose.

There have been around 110 school closings in a 3-4 year period which means about fifty schools were closed before Bobb got there. Status quo.

Let's approach this from another angle.

Has the financial system changed since Bobb got there? No, it's worse.
Have test scores gone up? No, their worse. Lowest in the country.

Nothing he's done has improved the situation.

**Zacha341** · December-09-10, 11:01 AM

Bingo! But he, his vendors and consultants have been kept busy with cash flow...

Originally Posted by kraig

There have been around 110 school closings in a 3-4 year period which means about fifty schools were closed before Bobb got there. Status quo.

Let's approach this from another angle.

Has the financial system changed since Bobb got there? No, it's worse.
Have test scores gone up? No, their worse. Lowest in the country.

Nothing he's done has improved the situation.

**kraig** · December-09-10, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Bingo! But he, his vendors and consultants have been kept busy with cash flow...

LMAO. Good one. If that's not status quo I don't know what is.

**Hypestyles** · December-09-10, 03:43 PM

a year from now when Bobb is gone, when it comes to "activists" and the blue-hair types who always like to show up at the meetings and bash whoever on the board bothered to attend, just who do they support, if anyone? Would anyone who is in charge be the bogeyman? why is a school system independent of city control such a sacred cow?
Can the school board be part-time? Can they be volunteer positions?