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    I had a bartender friend downtown tell me someone admitted near last call that the reason nobody reported too many cars in front of the Manoogian that night was because they brought in most through the boathouse.
    A bartender tells someone that someone -- near last call -- says something.
    That's how rumors get started. The Manoogian Party is a rumor for the ages, but it still has not progerssed out of the rumor stage. The stripper says 150 people, 10 cops and a TV truck were on hand, yet no one without mental challenges has come forward in eight years?

    C'mon!

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    Mr. Yatooma should at the very least face charges himself for wasting all this taxpayer money for a crusade based on less fact than a fairy tale. At the very least this man should lose his law license for wasting not only the courts time but also for fooling his clients into thinking that they will somehow get some money.
    Tamara Greene was killed and that is not in dispute. But what so many people seem to forget is that she was sitting in a car next to a known drug dealer. The man who the city says killed her was also a drug dealer and known associate of the man she was sitting next to. She was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    Kwame was certainly no saint by any means of the imagination, but I very much doubt that he or his wife ordered a hit out on a stripper because she supposedly got in a fight with Carlita. It is doubtful that they first of all would have even known her real name. Secondly it is rather hard to imagine that if they had such a grudge against her that they would plot this elaborate scheme to have her killed and then cover everything up. A conspiracy can work if you have a few people involved but the more people involved means that there is a greater chance of the supposed conspiracy being revealed. The number of people that Mr. Yatooma claims were invovled in this event makes conspiracy theories like the jfk assassination or the fake moon landing look like the work of amateurs, and statistically almost impossible to have happened. If this party happened you would think that someone with some credibility would have said something by now. Instead what we have are a bunch of witnesses who are mentally unstable and probably belong in an institution rather than walking the streets.
    Finally I think that Judge Rosen needs to step up and put an end to this farce once and for all. He needs to tell Yatooma to shut up with all this nonsense and either show concrete evidence or drop the case. He should also impose sanctions against Yatooma and make him pay the Greene family the amount he was trying to get from the city just for dragging them through all this nonsense.
    Honestly if there are any more "revelations" in this case I will expect them to be along the lines of UFO's brought the strippers there and teleported them into the mansion and then had Greene killed because she was carrying an alien-human hybrid baby. This case has gone from bizare allegations of a supposed party to something that a tabloid could only dream of. Yatooma has shown with his most recent filings that he knows his case is bs and is asking for things he knows no longer exist just so that the city can appear that they willfully got rid of the evidence and therefor the judge could hand down a default judgement.
    For the sake of us all, Judge Rosen please end this insanity!

  3. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    A bartender tells someone that someone -- near last call -- says something.
    That's how rumors get started. The Manoogian Party is a rumor for the ages, but it still has not progerssed out of the rumor stage. The stripper says 150 people, 10 cops and a TV truck were on hand, yet no one without mental challenges has come forward in eight years?

    C'mon!

    LOL. That is how rumors get substantiated. This person had nothing to fear, after a night of drinking. Loose lips get looser with alcohol. They only said a little comment to an anonymous person, which was repeated to me. Totally hearsay, but something I'm not shy repeating.

    A ton of stuff that I picked up over the years became revealed over the duration of the government's investigation of the matter...at every level. Some of my guesses were pretty amazingly close to spot on, too. I have no idea how that happened, happy to call it dumb luck.


    So, when I get happy when something I've heard is revealed to be true, or at least those with access to more than what I've heard attempt to make it admissible evidence. Carlita has never been questioned under oath, as far as I know. They've been protecting her all along.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraig View Post
    She stated that Tamara had stayed with her at the time that Greene was already dead. So much for her credibility.
    Someone can easily confuse the timeframe of an event, and it doesn't mean that they fabricated or imagined the event. If I started at a new employer in 2001, and I know it was winter when I started, but I don't remember if it was February or March, does that mean that I didn't really ever work there?

  5. #30

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    Curious if anyone has been listening to the Crimetown podcasts on Detroit.

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...it/2789295002/

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DPXE9zILX2ekJ7kLs6woH

    - She was shot with 40 cal glock. same gun carried by DPS.
    - Tamara was admitted to the hospital under fake name of DPS who also stripped on the side.
    - The City of Detroit was fined by judge for destroying evidence [[kwame emails, computers, etc). Case was later dismissed for lack of evidence.
    - Six officers who were investigating him or Tammy Greene were all demoted, terminated or otherwise threatened

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    I heard she is dead. Moving on now

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    You are so genuinely gross and soulless in every way.

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    Weird that this thread popped up again. I was thinking about this case a few hours ago, but I have no idea why. Somehow the bit about the raid on HQ came to mind and I kept wondering why it was halted instead of them taking everyone into custody who was interfering.

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    I heard she is dead. Moving on now
    trashy response at best. innocent person was killed and the perpetrator[[s) covered it up and got away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    I heard she is dead. Moving on now
    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're having a bad day. However, you may want to consider not saying things like this. It makes me think you're probably a horrible person if you can be that callous about a murdered person.

    I'm surrounded by people that I love, my wife, kids, parents, sister, nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles, coworkers, friends, and more. I don't want anything to happen to any of them. If something did happen, I would want justice for them.

    Tamara Greene was probably a person loved in the same capacity that I love all of the aforementioned people in my life. Tamara Greene didn't deserve to be killed. Her case deserves justice.

    I don't know what that justice is. I don't know who killed her. But I do know that I find your treatment of her life to be rather distasteful.

    Be a better human.

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    I say just let Tamera Greene rest in peace.

    Kwame's already rotting in jail for life. So what is really accomplished by dredging this unfortunate incident back up?

    Now, if we want to talk about Snyder going to jail for the Flint Water Crisis, the I'm all ears. Elijah Cumming has already put him on notice.
    Last edited by 313WX; February-08-19 at 11:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    I say just let Tamera Greene rest in peace.

    Kwame's already rotting in jail for life. So what is really accomplished by dredging this unfortunate incident back up?
    Imprisoning the complicit officers.

  13. #38

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    There has to be something to this story and I wait for the day the truth comes out.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meddle View Post
    Weird that this thread popped up again. I was thinking about this case a few hours ago, but I have no idea why.
    Could it be because of what the person who bump this thread posted? This was back in the news the other day because a popular podcast reviewed the story and it was picked back up by the local media:

    https://www.wxyz.com/news/local-news...-greene-murder

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    No, not at all. I never watch any of that stuff. Haven't seen any news program in years. This just literally popped into my mind out of nowhere and for no reason that I can cite. I hadn't even been on this site for a couple of hours before that bump was made.

    I just got an image of DPD blocking access to MSP seeking the tapes and couldn't figure out how that could be allowed. 'No' is not an option when they go after things from a home or business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    I say just let Tamera Greene rest in peace.

    Kwame's already rotting in jail for life. So what is really accomplished by dredging this unfortunate incident back up?

    Now, if we want to talk about Snyder going to jail for the Flint Water Crisis, the I'm all ears. Elijah Cumming has already put him on notice.

    Now I'm all in on this. Snyder shouldn't get away without so much as a slap on the wrist. He knew what was going on, and let other people take the fall. He should be in jail.

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    No one going to jail, no one getting subpoenaed, no one doing anything.
    How is this news now in Feb 2019, because we have a new governor ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLAUDE G View Post
    As much as I hate Kwame, the man is sitting in jail right now and chances are once the feds are done with him he will be there for a very long time. What happened, or didn't happen that night at the Manoogian mansion isn't really going to make that much more of a difference.

    As far as Norman Yatooma, he is really beginning to piss me off with all his requests. He is trying to make himself look like this big name lawyer like Geofrey Figer, but he needs to realize he is not no Geofrey Figer.

    As far as this new witness. Again Kwame is in Jail, but his thugs are still roaming the streets of Detroit. If what Yatooma is trying to say is true, if I was this new witness I would be shaking in my boots right now because someone is going to come and take her out just like they took out her friend.

    All Yatooma cares about is getting a multi-million dollar settlement, and I don't believe he would go as far as he did to put another witness in danger. Kwame is getting his justice, there is no incentive for this girl to testify on Yatoomas behalf.

    If I was that second stipper, as far as I was concerned the party didn't happen and I didn't see anything.
    Kwame is in until August - of 2037. Once he's out, the Feds still have a ring in his nose for court ordered restitution to the city. PLUS, he's under court orders to cooperate with the IRS for the false tax returns he was convicted of. That means added taxes, plus fraud penalties, which are 75% of the tax atrributed to fraud. Kwamster finna be in hock to Uncle Sam forever.

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