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    Default Please Help Identify Church Building...Again?!

    Did they tear this church down also? Where was or is it located? Thanks team,,,you guys are the greatest!
    http://www.angelfire.com/de2/detroit...tistChurch.jpg

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    man, i hope they tore down the sign. "the promise land..." in all the cities to misspell the name, they seem to be lacking a "D." must be run by products of _PS...

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    Wow, that's a stumper, all right. The statue high above the entrance may be a clue.

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    Maybe it's this: Promise Land Missionary Baptist Church/St. Stanislaus Bishop and
    Martyr Roman Catholic Parish Complex


    I'm getting a "Not Found" error for that page, but I geuss this would be the same St. Stanislaus: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~detroitchurches/page32.htm
    St. Stanislaus' church is located at Dubois street and Medbury avenue
    Edit: Here's the 1701 St. Stanislaus page from web archive: http://web.archive.org/web/200712152...tanislaus.html
    The parish membership continued to decline, fostered in part by the elimination of many homes to build the nearby Poletown Plant for GM and then, less that a decade later, by the erection of the massive Detroit incinerator just a couple of blocks away. Indeed, this parish closed in 1989, the same year the Detroit incinerator began burning solid waste to generate energy. Lowell Boileau, in some of his posting on the DetroitYes [[www.DetroitYes.com) website, affectionately called this magnificent church, “Our Lady of the Incinerator.”
    Last edited by Brock7; October-18-10 at 04:32 AM.

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    It's definitely not the old St. Stanislaus. I think it's whatever building Promise Land was in before they moved into St. Stan's. I'd say it's pretty definitely on the east side, as I feel that I have some vague memory of having seen this building several times before. Also, it has a Tyree Guyton dot!

    St. Stanislaus as Promise Land Missionary Baptist:


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    Am I seeing things, or is there a yellow "715" to the left of the door?

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    Found it. 7151 Strong @ Frontenac. No wonder it seemed vaguely familiar. My great-aunt, who died back in the '70s, lived about 2 blocks away from there, but I doubt if I've been down that street more than 2 or 3 times since then.

    The building is still standing [[at least on Google Maps Streetview), but apparently vacant. It was originally built as the Slovak Home hall.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?client=f...-8&sa=N&tab=wl

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    Good job, Eastside Al!

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    Thanks for the 'hint'!

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    Damn, I knew it looked familiar...it is on the bike route from Django's old place to Cub's.

    It reminds me of the BoHouse, which was also a social club for Eastern Europeans. Same symmetry...I'd love to see inside this place.

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    Here's the googlemaps view from Harper...just down the street from yet another classic storefront church. These folks apparently got a great deal on pink paint, and my bet is the pastor lives across the street.


    http://maps.google.com/maps?client=f...-8&sa=N&tab=wl

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    7151 Strong is the former Solvak Home Association Hall. With this knowledge, I'm even more curious as to who that stone relief figure above the entrance represents.
    Last edited by kathy2trips; October-19-10 at 02:12 AM.

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    You can all thank Coleman Young and the General Motors for creating their super plant and the in STINK erator to destroy what's left of Poletown and all the fabulous Polish dominate Roman Catholic Churches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    You can all thank Coleman Young and the General Motors for creating their super plant and the in STINK erator to destroy what's left of Poletown and all the fabulous Polish dominate Roman Catholic Churches.
    Probably the #1 thru #3 on the list of Top 10 Detroit's "What Were They Thinking?" Moments, along with tearing down the old city hall. Was the return on investment worth the destruction? Will we repeat the same mistake someday? Why can't we learn from our mistakes? Now that would be real change!

    BTW: Coleman Young was the main speaker at my commencement from WSU '79. He was booed by many there, even at that time...
    Last edited by kathy2trips; October-19-10 at 03:18 PM.

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    There's more to the story of the incinerator than just the "Coleman screwed us again" meme.

    In the years leading up to the construction, landfill costs were increasing, and the numbers showed the incinerator would generate significant revenue for the city. Shortly before it opened, the state lowered the fees and costs it imposes on landfills, tilting the economic equation in favor of landfills drastically.

    Engler was governor at the time, and he was accused of lowering the fees specifically to screw Detroit over.

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    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...AC0894D8494D81

    TRYING TO SOLVE THE SIDE EFFECTS OF CONVERTING TRASH TO ENERGY
    By WILLIAM E. SCHMIDT

    Published: May 27, 1990

    DETROIT— Less than a year after it started operation, Detroit's giant trash incinerator, the largest in the nation, was abruptly shut down last month by state regulators. Environmental officials said the behemoth plant, which converts waste into energy, was emitting much higher levels of mercury than are permissible under state law.
    note the article was written in May of 1990. Engler was elected in November. The issue with the incinerator has always been related to building it on the cheap and constantly pouring more money to fix the problems deeply rooted in Coleman's administration.

    Detroit has been burning trash for at least 100 yrs.



    just one of several pix related to detroit incinerators. These folks are against burning Highland Park garbage. yr 1938

    From google books: http://books.google.com/books?id=ApB...page&q&f=false
    year 1888
    Last edited by gnome; October-20-10 at 01:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnome View Post
    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...AC0894D8494D81



    note the article was written in May of 1990. Engler was elected in November. The issue with the incinerator has always been related to building it on the cheap and constantly pouring more money to fix the problems deeply rooted in Coleman's administration.

    Detroit has been burning trash for at least 100 yrs.



    just one of several pix related to detroit incinerators. These folks are against burning Highland Park garbage. yr 1938

    From google books: http://books.google.com/books?id=ApB...page&q&f=false
    year 1888
    Then I'll edit my post that Engler lowered the landfill fees after it opened.

    My point of the economics of landfill versus incinerator still stands. What made the revenue stream possible was incineration was cheaper than landfilling. Coleman rightly figured many cities would opt for the cheaper option.

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    The statue has definitely grabbed my attention, but I am also curious as to what, if anything, is on the cartouche, or keystone above the statue. What we need is a foot soldier to visit the site, look for cornerstones, inscriptions and that sort of thing and let us all know. That could be a lost Parducci up there. eek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    You can all thank Coleman Young and the General Motors for creating their super plant and the in STINK erator to destroy what's left of Poletown and all the fabulous Polish dominate Roman Catholic Churches.
    Flat-out Polish haters, if you ask me. Don't think for a second this wasn't culturally motivated.

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    Here is the building, inside and out:

    http://www.detroitfunk.com/?p=339

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauser View Post
    Here is the building, inside and out:

    http://www.detroitfunk.com/?p=339
    Very nice pictures. Always wondered what it was like on the inside.

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