Newt Gingrich Off the Deep End

[maxx]

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/2872...-common-sense/
"...Gingrich’s suggestion that Sharia Law has some hope of spreading through our legal system like a contagious disease recalls 1960s paranoia about 'the spread of Communism..'...”

Be afraid, be very afraid.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/...sson_20100804/
"...
Characteristically, Gingrich went further, using aggressive language and false insinuation. Without any shred of evidence, he denounced the moderate Muslims developing the community center as “hostile to our civilization.” Instead of building where they live, in New York City, he urged them to try to build a church or a synagogue “in Saudi Arabia.”
By uttering those words, the old bully proved what liberals and moderates have often noticed about the religious right—namely, the troubling resemblance between our homegrown ultras and the foreign extremists who have attacked us. Only when the Saudis permit full religious freedom to Christians and Jews, Gingrich suggested, should we do likewise to Muslims. So he recommends that we trash the Bill of Rights and mimic the practices of foreign despots..."


All aboard the crazy train.

[gazhekwe]

Lisa Mullins interviewed Kent Ekerich of Sweden's new ruling party, the interview aired today. It was illuminating of the effects of extremes: Ekerich insisted Islam is a viewpoint, and was threatening to Swedes who are starting to not feel at home in their own country.

http://www.theworld.org/2010/09/20/s...in-parliament/

I posted this because I listened to this interview hoping we wouldn't be descending to this level, and here we are already!

[Detroitej72]

Relax, consider the source we're talking about here.

He is, after all, an extremest radical who suffers from the humiliation of having been drummed out of Congress in disgrace.

[oladub]

maxx, You made this statement in the OP. "By uttering those words, the old bully proved what liberals and moderates have often noticed about the religious right." What is you basis for suggesting that Gingrich is religious? He may have tried to lead the religious right but I don't know of any reason to consider Gingrich religious if that was what you were implying.

[Detroitej72]

Newt is about as religious as Saddam Hussein was. They are religious when it's convenient, and use it as a prop to rally their radical base.

[blackmath]

Isn't that cute? Newt still thinks people take him seriously.. awww

[blackmath]

Every great empire needs an "enemy". The English, Southerners, foreigners, the Germans, the Japanese, the Communists, and now the terrorists. History truly does repeat itself.

[Papasito]

Multiple states [[apparantly Oklahoma is first) are moving to pass legislation that ban Sharia courts from forming in the U.S. Individual freedom, equal rights, and womens rights conflict with Sharia law.

http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x1996...on-2010-ballot

Any woman who has spent time in Saudi Arabia would welcome this legislation.

Possibly Europeans too.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sed-doors.html
and Candians.
http://www.icl-fi.org/english/spc/142/sharia.html
and Brits
http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-08-17/sh...html?fullstory

Anyway, we have laws that hopefully will protect Americans from being mistreated under Sharia law. Newt is just stirring up un-necessary Islamophobia.

I hope Newt isn't seriously planning a Pres run in '12. He is a flip flopper, he has inconsistant messages, and he has too much baggage.
If it was Palin-Gingrich [[or Gingrich-Palin), I'd have to vote Hillary.

[maxx]

maxx, You made this statement in the OP. "By uttering those words, the old bully proved what liberals and moderates have often noticed about the religious right." What is you basis for suggesting that Gingrich is religious? He may have tried to lead the religious right but I don't know of any reason to consider Gingrich religious if that was what you were implying.

Those aren't my words. I don't think the quote implies that Gingrich is himself religious, but that he appeals to the religious right.

[maxx]

Multiple states [[apparantly Oklahoma is first) are moving to pass legislation that ban Sharia courts from forming in the U.S. Individual freedom, equal rights, and womens rights conflict with Sharia law.

U.S. rabbinic courts are under fire.

http://www.forward.com/articles/14951/

[gazhekwe]

Sharia law is interesting. It contains many examples that are similar to European based law. Sharia comes from the Koran, [[the word of God), from the teachings of Mohammed and from rulings of religious scholars [[fatwas). Sharia governs every aspect of life, in which it differs from Western law systems which govern civil and criminal matters.

This is a very interesting article that explains Sharia in a balanced way.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7234870.stm

It seems as though the religious right in the US would like to see Christian values deployed here to the extent Sharia is in the Muslim world. I guess people are the same, whatever they call their value sets, and want to incorporate them into the law of the land to govern daily life in a way that makes sense to them. The example of Sharia makes the separation of Church and State the most logical and sensible way to run the system of laws, and gives the perfect defense against incorporating Sharia into the system of laws.

[Papasito]

http://www.forward.com/articles/14951/

Rabbinic courts have no place here, just as Sharia ones do not.
This is the United States. U.S. law is the law of the land.
There should not be different laws for different people.
To have different law for different people is entirely racist and/or discriminitory.

[rb336]

Newt has been off the deep end since he lifted, virtually word-for-word, "his" ideas regarding orphans [[see contract on america) from the writings of Goebels

[Patrick]

http://www.forward.com/articles/14951/

Rabbinic courts have no place here, just as Sharia ones do not.
This is the United States. U.S. law is the law of the land.
There should not be different laws for different people.
To have different law for different people is entirely racist and/or discriminitory.

Pretty much THIS

[Meddle]

Neutered has been off the deep end for years. The press shut him down once for being an idiot extraordinaire so I have no idea why he's getting air time again.

[Detroitej72]

The press shut him down once for being an idiot extraordinaire so I have no idea why he's getting air time again.

Because Fox News ditto-heads like to hear what he is selling.

[Papasito]

A prime example of how the Muslim Sharia law and values are incompatible with the laws of our land :

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39664344...ld_news-europe

U.K. cleric: Rape is impossible within marriage

Husbands 'may be made to ask forgiveness ... That should be enough'

"Clearly there cannot be any rape within the marriage," he told The Samosa website. "Maybe aggression, maybe indecent activity... Because when they got married, the understanding was that sexual intercourse was part of the marriage, so there cannot be anything against sex in marriage. Of course, if it happened without her desire, that is no good, that is not desirable."

[Johnlodge]

A prime example of how the Muslim Sharia law and values are incompatible with the laws of our land :

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39664344...ld_news-europe

All Muslim women have to do is the same thing the American woman had to do when this case came up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt

The United States has never been a real frontrunner on the issue, though.

From Wiki:

Many United States rape statutes formerly precluded the prosecution of spouses, including estranged or even legally separated couples. In 1975, South Dakota removed this exception.[14] In 1993, North Carolina became the last state to remove the spousal exemption.[3] However, as of 1999, 33 of 50 U.S. states regard spousal rape as a lesser crime [Bergen, 1999]. The perpetrator may be charged with related crimes such as assault, battery, or spousal abuse. There are other criminal charges that may be inapplicable to married couples. For example, in the U.S., there is a marriage exemption to the charge of statutory rape even if one of the spouses is under the age of consent in the jurisdiction where the sexual act takes place.

[Papasito]

The US has taken steps against spousal abuse, rape, ect.
While I will readily admit that the United States wasn't always the best when it comes to protecting women, Human Rights have come a long way, and going backward in order to be sensitive to a religion, or to be politically correct in the name of diversity would be a mistake.

[gazhekwe]

The First and Fourteenth Amendments should render futile any attempts to foist Sharia on any US jurisdiction.

[maxx]

The First and Fourteenth Amendments should render futile any attempts to foist Sharia on any US jurisdiction.

The Republicans are way ahead of you.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/arc..._08/025131.php
" Just over the last few weeks, the notion of repealing part of the 14th Amendment -- or, at a minimum, holding congressional hearings to discuss a partial repeal of the amendment -- has been endorsed by the Senate Republican leadership, House Republican leadership, and several likely 2012 GOP presidential candidates, among others..."

[oladub]

maxx, Your article is a characterization, not a fact. I haven't heard any republicans claim they want to repeal any part of the 14th Amendment all though there have been calls for an additional amendment which would clarify the "and subject to the jusisdiction thereof clause". Republicans would probably be satisfied though if courts would just enforce that clause the way it stands but settled law once again gets in the way of the Constitution. In either case, I don't think that you are referring to the parts of the 14th Amendment to which gazhekwe referred about not depriving persons of life, liberty, or property without the due process of law.

[gazhekwe]

Exactly! Why on earth would Republicans, or anyone else, want to repeal something that would help keep Sharia at bay?

[maxx]

Dear ol' Newt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgpYd...layer_embedded
Newt is sending out faxes to doctors telling them that they won an award. All they have to do is send him $5,000.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/b...ame-blog-post/
American Solutions for Winning the Future, Gingrich's D.C.-based PAC, has named a porn purveyor its "Entrepreneur of the Year" for 2009, according to representatives of the pornographer....