Nazi book burning tactic in Fla.

[Bobl]

A preacher, and a group of about fifty religious zealouts in Florida, have announced plans to burn copies of the Qu'aran later this week.
I feel they have a right to their ignorance and intolerance, but fear the action could result in deaths and a public relations coup for radical Islamic groups and incite terrorist volunteers across the globe.
What do you think?
Opinions, please. No attacks or proselytizing.

[Jimaz]

Planned Quran-burning could endanger troops, Petraeus warns

The U.S. commander in Afghanistan on Monday criticized a Florida church's plan to burn copies of the Quran on September 11, warning the demonstration "could cause significant problems" for American troops overseas.

It's consistent with the theory that these U.S. radicals want harm to come to American troops overseas.

Whose side are they on anyway?

[gazhekwe]

We were talking to a relative in the area and he said they were planning a counter demonstration. It should be interesting.

[ghettopalmetto]

If you're gonna burn it, you have to buy it first.

[firstandten]

I've always looked at book burnings as a symbolic gesture from those who are intolerant and ignorant and they want the whole world to know that they are just that. People just need to shake their heads and repeat that the freedoms in our country apply to everyone no matter how much on the fringe they may be, as long as they don't break the law. After repeating that just walk away and don't let it be the media event that these folks want it to be.

[Gistok]

Just like you cannot cry FIRE in a theatre... a public action that puts our troops overseas at risk should be a punishable act....

[Ravine]

But for the fact that producing a definition of such an act would be pretty much impossible and would necessitate a thorough trampling of the very Constitution & Bill of Rights which our troops are-- through the use of specious argument-- taught to believe that their actions are defending & up-holding.

[1KielsonDrive]

Planned Quran-burning could endanger troops, Petraeus warnsIt's consistent with the theory that these U.S. radicals want harm to come to American troops overseas.

Whose side are they on anyway?

Armageddon, not harm. The final days. The rapture.

[Meddle]

from those who are intolerant and ignorant

That pretty much covers parts of central Florida.


Of course the media could just ignore the whole thing and not cover it, then no one would even know.

[Ravine]

Burning the Islamic holy book-- whatever spelling is currently in vogue-- is the same as burning a bible, as far as I'm concerned.

If groups of folks all want to believe that their god is the only God, that's OK with me, but it seems to me that anyone who believes in any god would feel crummy about burning anybody's holy book.

[Meddle]

But see, that's the problem with extremists. They think their way is the only way.

I'm not sure exactly who or what these guys are attached to, but there are some fundamentalists in the south that are far, far worse than what they are opposed to.

[Danny]

If the religious nuts who think their are Christians and Jews planning to burn holy books of Koran, think what the Nation of Islam will do to burn the Holy Bible or and Talmud.

Anyone who burn holy and sacred things will end up in God's Judgement table. You can't be a Christian, Muslim or a Jew if you burn holy and sacred things. It is sacriledge! Enough with the individualized dogmas.

[Papasito]

That pretty much covers parts of central Florida.

Nothing out there but rednecks, swamp, snakes and apparantly book burning hicks

[Jman]

Nothing out there but rednecks, swamp, snakes and apparantly book burning hicks

Yep, and I'm sure they believe that there is nothing in S.E. Michigan except murderers, thieves, carjackers and gangs.

[MCP-001]

Arranging for a public burning of the Koran.

Flying planes into buildings in the "name of religion".

Both groups are a few cans short of a six-pack.

[GOAT]

^^^Well said^^^

[gnome]

wwjd?

[Mikeg]

A "Fred Phelps wannabe" with a very small "flock" announces a very un-Christian like stunt to attract attention to their "church" and their own intolerance.

The media promotes their stunt to insure that the intolerant few among the many Muslims know about it.

Forum posters attempt to equate this private stunt with the 1933 NAZI government-supported book-burnings. The OP couldn't even wait for Godwin's Law to kick in and bring about the inevitable - but flawed - NAZI analogy!

Other posters chime in with an attempt to draw a moral equivalence between those who act on their intolerance by destroying property and those who act on it by destroying lives - and they are rewarded with bleats of approval!

Wow, just wow!

[GOAT]

Mikeg,
I would state that book-burning starts the cycle but ends with lost lives.

[MCP-001]

A "Fred Phelps wannabe" with a very small "flock" announces a very un-Christian like stunt to attract attention to their "church" and their own intolerance.

The media promotes their stunt to insure that the intolerant few among the many Muslims know about it.

Forum posters attempt to equate this private stunt with the 1933 NAZI government-supported book-burnings. The OP couldn't even wait for Godwin's Law to kick in and bring about the inevitable - but flawed - NAZI analogy!

Other posters chime in with an attempt to draw a moral equivalence between those who act on their intolerance by destroying property and those who act on it by destroying lives - and they are rewarded with bleats of approval!

Wow, just wow!

Don't take this as sarcasm, but what is the gist of where you are going at with your post?

[littlebuddy]

In the bible,in Acts 19 there is the following verse:

19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. 20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed. 21

Some bibles use the word socercy for curious acts, which is a religion. So I guess the N.T. endorses book burning of false religions. Islam and Christianity outside of a few ethicial or moral issues that are the same, agree on almost nothing about God, who he is, what he does, who Jesus is, what he does,etc. I have no problem with people burning books of a false religion, do you think the Muslims will play all nicey with us if we don't. For those of you who do not believe in God, here is another scripture:
Question: "What does the Bible mean when it says “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God’”?"

Answer: Both Psalm 14:1 and Psalm 53:1 read, “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’” Some take these verses to indicate that atheists are stupid, i.e., lacking intelligence. However, that is not the meaning of the Hebrew word translated “fool.” In this text, the Hebrew word is nabal which refers more to a “moral fool,” e.g., someone without morals. The meaning of the text is not “unintelligent people do not believe in God.” Rather, the meaning of the text is “immoral people do not believe in God.”

Many atheists are very intelligent individuals. It is not intelligence, or a lack thereof, that leads a person to reject belief in God. It is a lack of morals that leads a person to reject belief in God. People do not reject the idea of there being a Creator Being. Rather, people reject the idea of there being a Creator Being who demands morality from His creation. In order to clear their consciences and relieve themselves of guilt, people reject the idea of God as the only source of absolute morality. Doing so allows atheists to live however they choose—as morally or immorally as they desire—with no feelings of guilt for their refusal to be accountable to God.

Several prominent atheists have admitted this. One famous atheist, when asked what he hopes to accomplish through atheism, declared that he wants “to drink as much alcohol and have sex with as many women as possible.” Belief in a divine Being is accompanied by a feeling of accountability and responsibility toward that Being. So, to escape from the condemnation of conscience, which itself was created by God, one must deny the existence of God in order to deny the moral pull of the conscience.

This is not to say that all atheists are immoral people. Many atheists live relatively moral lives. The point of “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God’” is that a lack of evidence of His existence is not the true reason people reject belief in God. People reject belief in God due to a desire to live free of the moral constraints He requires and to escape the guilt that accompanies the violation of those constraints. “The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them … men are without excuse … their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools … Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie” [[Romans 1:18-25).

[gibran]

problem with your logic is that Muslims worship the same God as us...but they have branched off and created their religion with their profit as their base... but have you no shame in condoning this act that will bring our clash of civilians another talking point? How are you going to react to radicals burning our Bible? gee..never heard of Muslims burning our bible..yet

[Steve]

I haven't heard of Muslims burning the Christian Bible yet either, but they are shredding it.
http://www.christiantoday.com/articl...bols./2992.htm

[Johnlodge]

but they have branched off and created their religion with their profit as their base

No, that's us Americans. OH, you meant prophet.

[Meddle]

Branched off?

Haven't the Muslims been around a whole lot longer? Maybe the other religions branched off theirs?