Savage: Illegals Elected Obama

[Detroitej72]

I was listening to the Mikey Savage Show last night, and the right's darling of dumb logic actually said President Obama won the election because of all the illegal immigrants voting for him!!!

I guess he isn't aware that you have to be a citizen to vote, he must have missed that in his government class. What was even more amazing was that I didn't hear any listeners call him out on this, they can't all be this gullable now, can they?

The fringe right is great for shear entertainment, comics couldn't make stuff up that is this funny.

[jams]

Too funny! Yep, a nation of immigrants fears that others will over-run them.

NO IRISH NEED APPLY!

[oldredfordette]

Except it's not so funny when the morans who listen to Mr. Weiner then turn around and repeat that bilge to everyone who has to listen, and when they repeat it enough, they actually believe it. It's like the urban legend of the FEMA detention camps, some people are stupid enough to believe it.

[rb336]

Except it's not so funny when the morans who listen to Mr. Weiner then turn around and repeat that bilge to everyone who has to listen, and when they repeat it enough, they actually believe it. It's like the urban legend of the FEMA detention camps, some people are stupid enough to believe it.

and that group is practically all that remains of the republican party

[East Detroit]

It's binary.... really quite simple.... socialist agenda...... property = liberty..... money > people.....

[oladub]

I was listening to the Mikey Savage Show last night, and the right's darling of dumb logic actually said President Obama won the election because of all the illegal immigrants voting for him!!!

I guess he isn't aware that you have to be a citizen to vote, he must have missed that in his government class.

You are correct. Illegal aliens are not supposed to vote or even be here.

[ghettopalmetto]

You are correct. Illegal aliens are not supposed to vote or even be here.

There's no "supposed to" about it. Illegal aliens CANNOT register to vote.

[oladub]

There's no "supposed to" about it. Illegal aliens CANNOT register to vote.

I totally agree. They legally CANNOT be here either but word has it that some illegal aliens live here anyway. If President Obama chooses to allow them to remain here and, perhaps, someday become citizens and vote here, then all this illegal activity would go away.

[ghettopalmetto]

I totally agree. They legally CANNOT be here either but word has it that some illegal aliens live here anyway. If President Obama chooses to allow them to remain here and, perhaps, someday become citizens and vote here, then all this illegal activity would go away.

Unless anyone can demonstrate how it's possible for an undocumented alien to register to vote, this is just more trumped-up bullshit scare tactics from the lunatic fringe of the right-wing.

Exactly how many undocumented aliens voted for Obama in 2008?

[firstandten]

I was listening to the Mikey Savage Show last night, and the right's darling of dumb logic actually said President Obama won the election because of all the illegal immigrants voting for him!!!

I guess he isn't aware that you have to be a citizen to vote, he must have missed that in his government class. What was even more amazing was that I didn't hear any listeners call him out on this, they can't all be this gullable now, can they?

The fringe right is great for shear entertainment, comics couldn't make stuff up that is this funny.

Entertainment for the non-thinkers with a racist bent in our society, after all every market segment [[as they would call it) can be tapped for the advertising dollars and make guys like Savage pay more taxes under Obama.

[jiminnm]

There's no "supposed to" about it. Illegal aliens CANNOT register to vote.

This is simply not true. Illegal aliens are not supposed to, but can, register to vote. There is no requirement that one demonstrate citizenship when registering, although citizenship or legal residency is required. With all the various interest groups registering voters today even legal residency is seldom verified.

Here in NM and in many other states, citizenship or legal residency does not have to be proven to receive a driver's license. That driver's license is all that is required to register.

[ejames01]

So they don't check citizenship?

[East Detroit]

Darn, the Republicans tried so hard with their poll taxes and still failed?

Maybe they should work on an overwhelmingly good platform that most people will like.

[Maxine1958]

Wait just a dag-nabit minute!

Are you really saying that no one bothers to check residency when you register to vote?

I'm thinking of all the times I've registered, usually right at the SOS office when I renew my license. Wow, I just assumed that somewhere in the background, some checks were made before I checked in to vote.

So this sinking fear creeping up my spine is real . . .

[gazhekwe]

See how they do? Throw out half truth like it is absolutely the whole truth and people believe it.

How long ago did you get your very first license? The process is a bit different than renewing an existing license. Here are the Michigan requirements. I find it hard to believe other states have fewer requirements.

You'll need to present documentation of a valid Social Security number or letter of ineligibility, U.S. citizenship or legal presence if not a U.S. citizen, identity and Michigan residency. If you have lost your Social Security card and need a replacement, visit your local Social Security office to apply for one.


If you are getting a new MI license and you have moved from somewhere else, you have to provide the following information.

• Present documentation of a valid Social Security number or letter of ineligibility, U.S. citizenship or legal presence if not a U.S. citizen, identity and Michigan residency
• Take a vision test and pass the physical standards
• Have your photograph taken
• Pay a $25 fee and obtain a Temporary Operator's Permit. The TOP allows you to drive until your Michigan driver's license arrives in the mail.

http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,1607,7...1816--,00.html

[gazhekwe]

New Mexico requires citizenship to obtain a driver's license, OR the following: [[This should make you feel better, Jim)

Top11) Non-Citizens

If you decide to become a New Mexico resident, you'll need a driver's license. To obtain a license, follow the steps as described above. Identification will be the only difference. You will need to provide:
Social Security Card

If you are unable to obtain a Social Security card, you must provide two other forms of identification, which include:

• An individual tax identification number [[ITIN), or a letter from the IRS issuing an ITIN

• A Matricula Consular card issued AFTER February 1, 2005 by the Mexican Consulate in Albuquerque or El Paso, Texas

• A valid and current foreign passport only if you ineligible for an ITIN or a valid Matricula Consular card

Identity

You must provide one of the following documents:

• An original or certified foreign birth certificate, along with English translation

• Original copy of an FS545 or FS1350 form, documenting birth abroad and translated into English

• An N560 certificate of citizenship

• An N550 certificate of naturalization

• A valid permanent resident card issued by the U.S. government

• A valid I-551 resident alien card that was not issued prior to 1997

• A marriage certificate issued by a U.S. state or territory

Proof of Residency if Over 15 Years Old

You must provide two of the following:

• A bank statement

• An employment pay stub, containing your name and address

• An insurance statement [[car, home, health) documenting current coverage

• A property rental or purchase agreement

• Any type of utility bill, excluding a cell phone bill

• A local property tax statement

• A local mortgage document

• Documented proof of having a child enrolled in New Mexico's school system

• A current and valid motor vehicle registration certificate

• A New Mexico medical assistance or public assistance card

• An original document from a New Mexico community organization, or from a city, county, state, tribal or federal government organization confirming that you a New Mexico resident

http://www.dmv.org/nm-new-mexico/app...p#Non-Citizens

[ccbatson]

It is possible, but irrelevant after the fact.

Makes more sense why liberal politicians are for open borders, and it isn't for the good of the country, but for their own political aspirations.

[Detroitej72]

It is possible, but irrelevant after the fact.

Makes more sense why liberal politicians are for open borders, and it isn't for the good of the country, but for their own political aspirations.

Remind me again who gave amnesty to illegals in the 80's? Oh, wait, that would be that god of the right, Ronald Wilson Reagen!!!

This was also a plan of Bush's to show how much he loved Latinos, but he was never able to acomplish it because he was too busy torturing, errrr, enhancing the interrogation meathods.

[barnesfoto]

"I was listening to the Mikey Savage Show"

Let's get things straight. The man's real name is Michael Weiner. I believe that's pronounced "Weener"

And for those of you who support immigration reform, here's a link to some new downloadable
Shepard Fairey works

http://cimarrones.org/

[Det_ard]

What's a fake driver's license, SS card or green card cost these days? About $100? They're easy to get in any city. I don't think many illegals are really interested in getting registered to vote but they easily could if they wanted to.

Take a fake SS card and a fake birth certificate and a real bill with your address and get a real driver's license. Take that and get registered to vote. Not to hard to do.

[barnesfoto]

in theory, nothing is hard to do for people who post endlessly on the internet....Just because fake IDs are sold in many places does not mean that they work in many places.

[rb336]

Remind me again who gave amnesty to illegals in the 80's? Oh, wait, that would be that god of the right, Ronald Wilson Reagen!!!

Wing nuts always find it convenient to forget what REALLY happened under Reagan, since it undermines completely their core ideals.

Tax cuts for the wealthy create jobs - reagan's tax cuts came into effect and we then had a two-year bad recession that ended....when reagan started spending huge amounts, which, of course, weren't covered by getting increased tax revenue

[oladub]

Remind me again who gave amnesty to illegals in the 80's? Oh, wait, that would be that god of the right, Ronald Wilson Reagen!!!.

Reagan proved that amnesty programs encourage more illegal imigration. I found the following postscript by Edwin Meese, Reagan's attorney general. In the article, Meese lays out the Reagan amnesty plan which is almost identical to the Comprehensive Reform Act of 2006 and what President Obama proposes. This is Meese's analysis.

"The lesson from the 1986 experience is that such an amnesty did not solve the problem. There was extensive document fraud, and the number of people applying for amnesty far exceeded projections. And there was a failure of political will to enforce new laws against employers."

"And what about those already here? Today it seems to me that the fair policy, one that will not encourage further illegal immigration, is to give those here illegally the opportunity to correct their status by returning to their country of origin and getting in line with everyone else. This, along with serious enforcement and control of the illegal inflow at the border—a combination of incentives and disincentives—will significantly reduce over time our population of illegal immigrants."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18399

[rb336]

Reagan proved that amnesty programs encourage more illegal imigration.

I do not know one progressive who wants amnesty. i'm sure there are some. lenient border/imigration policies are very anti-labor

[ccbatson]

Very true, points to the left in recognizing one of the few liberal proclivities, and therefore, errors of Ronald Reagan.