Desperation Re. Oil Rupture Media Captured/ Capped - MSNBC?

[Zacha341]

This BP disaster is far worse then we are being told! Mark that.

I was watching local channel 2 and they "quickly" mentioned that a captain working at the BP oil rupture site committed suicide by self-inflicted gun shot. Moving on to discuss the clean up efforts and relocation of pelicans in the region, with an even more brief mention of an accidental death of another worker... The short report was very ambiguous, but was brought up in regards to the so-called golf er-uh "spill", not an armed robbery at a 7-11!

I went to go find out more and see there's some talk of MSNBC at one point covering the story, then 'capping' it as it were... What's up with that?

We can only imagine the desperation going on down there as the community and workers are outraged and saddened on so many fronts......

Google search results:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Specific article link:

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010...-kruses-death/
MSNBC Deletes Mention of Oil Clean-up Capt. William Allen Kruse’s Death

Posted on June 23, 2010 by willyloman
by Scott Creighton
Earlier this morning, I reported on an MSNBC story about two Gulf oil clean-up workers who had been killed. One had been shot and there were no details on the other. MSNBC has now changed their story and dropped all mention of both of the deaths.

This is what they wrote this morning and I reported on here.

… The deaths reported Wednesday were not tied to the containment operation. The Coast Guard said the workers had been involved in cleanup operations did that their deaths did not appear to be work related.
One death was a boat captain who died of a gunshot wound, a Coast Guard spokesman said. Further details were not immediately available. MSNBC

Now, if you follow that link, the article has been scrubbed up and there is no mention of either of the clean-up worker’s deaths. In fact, instead part of the story is about saving a dolphin.


This is a screen-shot of the link preview which still has the image capture of the original story including a headline that mentions the two deaths: “two clean-up workers die in separate events“.

Now that MSNBC story is gone but it doesn’t mean someone didn’t die.
This is William Kruse, the man who MSNBC decided shouldn’t be mentioned in their story about BP.

A boat captain working in the oil spill response died from a gunshot wound this morning.
William Allen Kruse, born 1955, was the captain of The Rookie, a charter fishing boat normally based in Orange Beach, said Deputy Baldwin County Coroner Rod Steade .
Steade said the deckhands were on the docks and heard a gunshot and went back on and found him dead on the “flying bridge.” AI

This death is being ruled a “suicide” at this point based on what investigators have claimed Capt. Kruse’s friends told them. However, the only friend actually interviewed for the article on AI had a slightly different take on things.

Baldwin County Coroner Stan Vinson said witnesses told investigators that Kruse had been upset about the loss of business caused by the closing of fishing grounds and public perceptions of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.
… ”He didn’t show any signs he was going to this that would have thrown up any red flags where you’d think you better keep an eye on him,” Bell said. “He wasn’t any more aggravated with the whole situation than any of the rest of us. “
Bell added, however, that Kruse did like to know what was going on and was particularly frustrated with the lack of straight answers coming from BP about the Vessel of Opportunity program and particularly about how he was to be paid once his 2 boats were deployed. AI

Let’s sum up the official story – Kruse meets his deckhands for a day of work. He sends them to the store to get supplies. He tells them he will bring to boat around to fuel it. And then he shoots himself in the head. Does that make sense to you?

Whether Capt. Kruse took his own life or whether something else happened, either way, they are BOTH important stories about what is happening in the Gulf right now.

And MSNBC scrubbed it right out of their article. And what is even worse is we still don’t know what happened to the other reported death. That too seems to be lost in the MSNBC PR machine.

As it just so happens, MSNBC is also running a story right now about how the bad news from the BP oil spill is pulling Obama’s approval ratings down. The article is titled… “Poll: Spill drags the president’s rating down“

Two months of oil continuing to gush from a well off the Gulf Coast, as well as an unemployment rate still near 10 percent, have taken a toll on President Barack Obama and his standing with the American public, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. MSNBC

Would MSNBC go so far as to erase any mention of Kruse’s death because it might bring down their precious Obama’s approval rating? Looks that way to me. If the bad news threatens to harm the standing of the glorious leader, just erase it. That’s the state of the “news” today.

[gumby]

Would MSNBC go so far as to erase any mention of Kruse’s death because it might bring down their precious Obama’s approval rating? Looks that way to me. If the bad news threatens to harm the standing of the glorious leader, just erase it. That’s the state of the “news” today.

I'm gonna go with, no, considering this was linked on their main page. Stop creating crazy conspiracy theories!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37890523...shington_post/

[Zacha341]

Thank you for the compliment in terms of "creating" theories... Opinions may vary; there's all kinds of specious junk online daily one could post - I do try to apply some discretion. Which is why I rarely do a lead-in post, preferring rather to be a responder.

In any event, beyond the msnbc aspect the posting and google search link, this post in a broad spectrum speaks to the workers in that area and the stress this disaster is having, indeed that is a remaining issue.

And I do stand on the idea that this disaster is bigger than being stated. The media keeps calling it a spill, it is not. It is a rupture. A very serious one though, I am not sure if there is such a thing as a mild rupture....

I'm gonna go with, no, considering this was linked on their main page. Stop creating crazy conspiracy theories!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37890523...shington_post/

[ejames01]

Zacha,

Most people do not know what a rupture even is.

[MCP-001]

Pres. B.O. is perfectly capably of ruining his own reputation without the help of MSNBC spiking unfavorable stories.

Take for example the oil skimming barges that were ordered back to port for, get this, safety inspections?

Or how about the barrier islands that were to be constructed along the southern and southeastern corners of Louisiana?

Unfortunately due to the damage done to the local economies, this will be the first of many suicides that will occur.

[Retroit]

I wouldn't be surprised if we hear of a lot more suicides in that region. Imagine what Detroit would be like if every auto-related company closed down.

I also think that Obama is receiving a lot of unfair criticism on this matter. I'd be happy if the President was capable enough to run the government, let alone manage an oil spill/rupture clean-up.

[Papasito]

I also think that Obama is receiving a lot of unfair criticism on this matter. I'd be happy if the President was capable enough to run the government, let alone manage an oil spill/rupture clean-up.

The buck stops with the President. It has with every President before him.
Whenever there is a situation of huge importance, everyone looks to the boss.
President Barack Obama is the boss.

[Mikeg]

This BP disaster is far worse then we are being told! Mark that.

But not necessarily based on the evidence you provide. Others are pointing to the series of events and unsuccessful "fixes" since the explosion and are reaching the conclusion that the well bore structure is compromised "down hole" and that the relief wells may arrive too late or that the well casing is compromised so far down that the relief wells will be useless.

In other words, the rate at which the crude oil is leaking will soon increase to a rate beyond BP's ability to "suck up" and the leaking crude oil could continue fouling the Gulf of Mexico for many years to come.

[sturge]

The guy who committed suicide was a captain of one of the fishing boats helping BP.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/25/gul...ex.html?hpt=C2

[Zacha341]

Thanks for posting this Sturge. The video and his brothers testimonies are interesting.... A segment from the article:

Marc Kruse and another brother, Frank Kruse, told CNN they believe Allen Kruse would still be alive today if he had believed he was making an impact against the oil that was threatening the waters he loved.

"If he thought they were doing something that was working, that was effective, they were making a difference, yes, but every day there was a different meeting with a different plan," said Frank Kruse, referring to BP's program to enlist out-of-work fishermen.

Allen Kruse didn't have much choice but to join the program, his brother said -- he used to make between $5,000 and $6,000 a day chartering his two boats, income that had ceased.

So, he signed his boats up for the BP program, known as "Vessels of Opportunity." He worked for two weeks straight, his family says, but hadn't been paid.

Allen Kruse called the program "madness," they said, and told relatives it was a sham.

His brothers said he told them that cleanup boats were put in the water close to shore, so people would think they were making a difference.

"It's just a dog and pony show," said Marc Kruse. "Send them out. Ride around. Let everybody see them. Bring them back in."

A BP spokesman did not return CNN's calls for comment.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/25/gul...ex.html?hpt=C2

The guy who committed suicide was a captain of one of the fishing boats helping BP.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/25/gul...ex.html?hpt=C2

[rb336]

The buck stops with the President. It has with every President before him.
Whenever there is a situation of huge importance, everyone looks to the boss.
President Barack Obama is the boss.

Not of any of the companies responsible for the mess. Typical rethugnican thinking -- all for deregulating the oil industry, but when they F up -- it's the presdent's fault! [[as long as he's a dem)

[MCP-001]

Just added last night: The IRS!

They now want a cut of any monies affected residents are receiving from BP for their losses.

[firstandten]

Not of any of the companies responsible for the mess. Typical rethugnican thinking -- all for deregulating the oil industry, but when they F up -- it's the presdent's fault! [[as long as he's a dem)

Ha ! I love it

Just toss that coin up in the air

Heads ! I win

Tails ! You lose

[Jimaz]

Fox News is BP oil spill misinformation clearinghouse

1. Myth: Obama waited weeks before responding to the oil spill
2. Myth: Moratorium is not needed because oil companies are equipped to handle spill
3. Myth: BP was only drilling "out there" because environmentalists and the federal government "made them" do it
4. Myth: Obama, unlike Bush, "was off on vacation" during crisis
5. Myth: "Ridiculous" and "offensive" to blame Bush for spills
6. Myth: Obama is the "single largest recipient of BP's cash"
7. Myth: Obama admin turning away foreign aid by refusing to waive union-supported Jones Act
8. Myth: Obama admin defied Constitution when they "told" BP to create escrow account
9. Myth: Obama admin unreasonably delayed purchase of Maine company's oil boom
10. Myth: Obama unnecessarily delayed berm plan
11. Myth: Coast Guard docked oil-collecting barges for no good reason

Analysis at the link.

[Jimaz]

More: Why the BP Disaster Threatens to Expose Fox News' Insanity to Its Right-Wing Audience.

My theory is that there's a limit to how much success can be had by merely lying all the time. The problem is that once the limit is reached, there's no way to repair the self-inflicted damage short of rebranding -- like a snake shedding its skin.

I mean, who really wants to continue listening to a habitual liar after they've been exposed too many times? Time for a new sockpuppet, guys.

[Zacha341]

I hear that, however partisan alignments and conspiracies aside the oil is still spilling forth? I hope the dem vs. lib pol-i-trics rubric of "who did what". "who covers what", and "who needs to look good and blameless" does not suppress or otherwise compromise the effort towards a solution! We're are running out of maneuvering room in the boxing ring! We all need water resources.

More: Why the BP Disaster Threatens to Expose Fox News' Insanity to Its Right-Wing Audience.

My theory is that there's a limit to how much success can be had by merely lying all the time. The problem is that once the limit is reached, there's no way to repair the self-inflicted damage short of rebranding -- like a snake shedding its skin.

I mean, who really wants to continue listening to a habitual liar after they've been exposed too many times? Time for a new sockpuppet, guys.

[Papasito]

I hear that, however partisan alignments and conspiracies aside the oil is still spilling forth? I hope the dem vs. lib pol-i-trics rubric of "who did what". "who covers what", and "who needs to look good and blameless" does not suppress or otherwise compromise the effort towards a solution! We're are running out of maneuvering room in the boxing ring! We all need water resources.

I firmly believe Democrats and Republicans would allow the total destruction of our nation in order to point a finger of blame at thier adversaries as they take thier dying breath.

[TKshreve]

I firmly believe Democrats and Republicans would allow the total destruction of our nation in order to point a finger of blame at thier adversaries as they take thier dying breath.

I agree! This is the saddest thought, but true none-the-less.

[Mikeg]

This BP disaster is far worse then we are being told! Mark that.

But not necessarily based on the evidence you provide. Others are pointing to the series of events and unsuccessful "fixes" since the explosion and are reaching the conclusion that the well bore structure is compromised "down hole" and that the relief wells may arrive too late or that the well casing is compromised so far down that the relief wells will be useless.

In other words, the rate at which the crude oil is leaking will soon increase to a rate beyond BP's ability to "suck up" and the leaking crude oil could continue fouling the Gulf of Mexico for many years to come.

More evidence that the condition of the blown-out well is such that the relief wells will not be able to stop the flow of crude oil:

BP Discussing a Backup Strategy to Plug Well

[Papasito]

Not of any of the companies responsible for the mess. Typical rethugnican thinking -- all for deregulating the oil industry, but when they F up -- it's the presdent's fault! [[as long as he's a dem)

Rb, it's a culmination of errors. BP & Government. You can't cast blame on one without casting it on the other. When BP drops the ball, the Government is responsible for allowing them to do so. Someone said on here that Capitalism alone does not work. Someone also said on here that Socialism alone does not work. Regulated Capitalism does work. The Government failed to regulate. Democrat, Republican, doesn't matter. You can't point to Bush's era and just blame Republicans - because he had a Democratically controlled Congress. It's the fault of both parties.
Government fails the people once again.

[Zacha341]

Precisely. Compelling point once you see thru the distracting con of "right vs left" where the masses are sated and happy to think/ feel some justification based on a partisan designation. The international community is reading this for what is is as well.

I firmly believe Democrats and Republicans would allow the total destruction of our nation in order to point a finger of blame at thier adversaries as they take thier dying breath.

I hear that, however partisan alignments and conspiracies aside the oil is still spilling forth? I hope the dem vs. lib pol-i-trics rubric of "who did what". "who covers what", and "who needs to look good and blameless" does not suppress or otherwise compromise the effort towards a solution! We're are running out of maneuvering room in the boxing ring! We all need water resources.

[3WC]

Repsol is about to start drilling a deep well off the coast of Cuba, 45 miles from FL.

Anybody want to buy some FL beachfront property?

[mjs]

From Jimaz's lnk:

Myth: Obama is the "single largest recipient of BP cash"

CLAIM: "Largest single donation" "from BP" has gone to Obama. After Palin suggested a connection between "contributions made to President Obama and his administration and the support by the oil companies to the administration," Doocy said that "when it comes down to the single largest recipient of BP cash, [Palin is] absolutely right ... it was Barack Obama."

FACT: Obama presidential campaign took no money from BP's PAC. Obama received $71,051 in contributions from BP employees during his presidential campaign, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Obama's presidential campaign received no funds from BP's PAC or from the company itself. A CRP spokesman confirmed that "the $71,051 that Obama received during the 2008 election cycle was entirely from BP employees." The spokesman also stated that "Obama did not accept contributions from political action committees, so none of this money is from BP's PAC."

Jimaz, that makes him the single biggest recipient of BP money!!! Watchdog organizations add direct money, PAC money, and individual employee money for a reason. Its part of campaign finance reporting requirements for a reason. Its all supporting the same cause. Explain why you think a corporate executive would cut a series of $5000 checks to various politicians with opposing viewpoints.

Say what you want and believe what you want, but I know that rather than having his boot on BP's throat, Obama has his hands on their shoulders as he's giving them another massage. Not one person will serve one day in prison. Its a favor to the British Prime Minister's protection of BP retirees as much as to BP itself. Democrats don't do accountability and a good politician is one that stays bought. While I think BP should be sold to their competitors to pay of their damage from their recklesss behavior, I just bought their stock instead because it will jump once they cap the leak and fire Haywood, climb over the next few years as all is forgotten, and sky rocket once they win an award reduction from whatever major court decision comes from Obama's intentional mishandling of this. Care to put any money on another outcome?

[oladub]

Jimaz's Myth #7: Obama admin turning away foreign aid by refusing to waive union-supported Jones Act

Fact: "...instead of using the Dutch ships and crews immediately, when The Netherlands offered help in April, the operation was delayed until U.S. crews could be trained. The Obama administration declined the Dutch offer partly because of the Jones Act, which restricts foreign ships from certain activities in U.S. waters."

"The Dutch also offered assistance with building sand berms [[barriers) along the coast of Louisiana to protect sensitive marshlands, but that offer was also rejected."
Dutch say They Could Speed Gulf Oil Recovery with US Permission

As of June 19, The administration had only accepted help from 5 of 28 countries which had offered help. Most offers were still 'under consideration' as the oil poisons more beaches and estuaries.

[Jimaz]

Attachment 6788
Licence to Spill

On the evening of the 28th of June at approx 7:15pm, Liberate Tate In protest over BP's sponsorship of the arts performed a "Solemn" oil-like spill at the Tates Summer party.

Dressed in black and veiled, the performers carrying black buckets with BP logos spewed molasses over the entrance way as onlookers watched in amazement as the Portland stone floor was consumed by the black oil-like mess.

Feathers were scattered and filled the air and in the same manner of approach the artists gracefully paced their escape.

Licence to Spill



"Apart from catastrophic spills like the Deepwater Horizon, there are a whole host of adverse impacts that are associated with the production of oil. On the local level, it often involves extreme forms of pollution for local communities, while regionally oil is frequently associated with greater militarization and conflict. Globally, carbon emissions, oil companies, and our collective dependence on the product they push, are taking us ever closer to the edge of climate catastrophe. "

• Licence to Spill
• ArtNotOil.org.uk

They later performed a similar guerrilla action inside the facility.