Bouchard slams second bridge span

**kraig** · April-30-10, 01:08 PM

http://www.freep.com/article/2010043...nd-bridge-plan

**1KielsonDrive** · April-30-10, 01:22 PM

Didn't even have to read it. Bouchard is scraping for the Head of Bridge Security job, reputedly paying more than a CEO's job to the successful candidate. Qualifications requirements are few : adept at sucking up, groveling, a*+ kissing and contorting ideologies. Oh yeah, one more : must believe in the 'free market" - as it applies to your benefactors.

**esp1986** · April-30-10, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by 1KielsonDrive

Didn't even have to read it. Bouchard is scraping for the Head of Bridge Security job, reputedly paying more than a CEO's job to the successful candidate. Qualifications requirements are few : adept at sucking up, groveling, a*+ kissing and contorting ideologies. Oh yeah, one more : must believe in the 'free market" - as it applies to your benefactors.

have got to agree with bouchard on the bridge... why spend billions of taxpayer money we dont have to do something that Moroun will do for free, no public money? the whole terrorism threat theory is a load of BS.

**EastsideAl** · April-30-10, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by esp1986

something that Moroun will do for free.

Another knee-slapper! Matty's working for free!! No cost to the public at all!!

**Detroitnerd** · April-30-10, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by EastsideAl

Another knee-slapper! Matty's working for free!! No cost to the public at all!!

Our gung-ho "free enterprise" folks here seldom take externalities into account.

**kraig** · April-30-10, 02:44 PM

All of you have a point on this one. Another thing to look out for is Granholm setting up a golden parachute for her and some of her appointees.

**R8RBOB** · April-30-10, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by esp1986

have got to agree with bouchard on the bridge... why spend billions of taxpayer money we dont have to do something that Moroun will do for free, no public money? the whole terrorism threat theory is a load of BS.

Matty Moroun didn't get to become a billionaire doing things for free. He would take that 500 million Canadian dollars in a heartbeat to save himself some cash and he would have control of the new bridge.

**schulzte** · April-30-10, 03:39 PM

The essential question here is what enterprises should be under governmental control and which should be under private control. Major international bridge crossings to me would fall under the category of things governments should control, not an 80 year old slumlord. Not everything in this nation needs to be under private, for profit ownership. We won't turn into a communist nation tommorrow if the government invests in modernizing the transportation system, like it has for the past 200 years. Or should we sell off the enitre highway system and allow it be converted to all privately held toll roads? That would have sounded ludacrous 50 years ago even under McCarthyism, now some folks think it would be a great idea. If the Canadian government wants to replace an 80 year old bridge span and is going to help finance it, we should do our part and cooperate.

**1KielsonDrive** · April-30-10, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by kraig

All of you have a point on this one. Another thing to look out for is Granholm setting up a golden parachute for her and some of her appointees.

That's a given with politicians, demican or republicrat.

**1KielsonDrive** · April-30-10, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by esp1986

have got to agree with bouchard on the bridge... why spend billions of taxpayer money we dont have to do something that Moroun will do for free, no public money? the whole terrorism threat theory is a load of BS.

I don't agree with the first part, but the terrorism threat, by and large, is manufactured and exxagerated by the security and defense industries, in collusion with politicians, to control us and monitor our activities, and retain their power.

**1KielsonDrive** · April-30-10, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by schulzte

The essential question here is what enterprises should be under governmental control and which should be under private control. Major international bridge crossings to me would fall under the category of things governments should control, not an 80 year old slumlord. Not everything in this nation needs to be under private, for profit ownership. We won't turn into a communist nation tommorrow if the government invests in modernizing the transportation system, like it has for the past 200 years. Or should we sell off the enitre highway system and allow it be converted to all privately held toll roads? That would have sounded ludacrous 50 years ago even under McCarthyism, now some folks think it would be a great idea. If the Canadian government wants to replace an 80 year old bridge span and is going to help finance it, we should do our part and cooperate.

Very well put.

**Detroit** · April-30-10, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by esp1986

have got to agree with bouchard on the bridge... why spend billions of taxpayer money we dont have to do something that Moroun will do for free, no public money? the whole terrorism threat theory is a load of BS.

Tolls collected will ultimately pay for the bridge. Money will be raised to build the bridge by selling bonds. That is not tax money. Those bond holders will be paid back through the tolls collected.

**Novine** · April-30-10, 05:54 PM

Bouchard is an idiot and the fact that he's the Majority Leader in the Senate is yet another example of how messed up Lansing is these days.

**dtowncitylover** · April-30-10, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Novine

Bouchard is an idiot and the fact that he's the Majority Leader in the Senate is yet another example of how messed up Lansing is these days.

lol. Bishop is Majority Leader, Bouchard is Oakland County Sheriff.

**Hermod** · April-30-10, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Detroit

Tolls collected will ultimately pay for the bridge. Money will be raised to build the bridge by selling bonds. That is not tax money. Those bond holders will be paid back through the tolls collected.

Ever heard of the Chicago Skyway bonds?

**R8RBOB** · April-30-10, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by dtowncitylover

lol. Bishop is Majority Leader, Bouchard is Oakland County Sheriff.

Honest mistake. Bouchard was the leader in the Senate before he took the OC Sheriff job though that was in 1999.

Stosh · April-30-10, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by dtowncitylover

lol. Bishop is Majority Leader, Bouchard is Oakland County Sheriff.

So what does Bouchard actually KNOW about international bridges?

I'm betting not much at all.

And schulzte, a very nice reasoned post. Much appreciated!

**Novine** · April-30-10, 10:20 PM

"lol. Bishop is Majority Leader, Bouchard is Oakland County Sheriff. "

Yup, my goof. They're both idiots but Bouchard "graduated" from his role as a Lansing idiot to come spread his stupidity back here in OC.

**Gistok** · April-30-10, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Novine

"lol. Bishop is Majority Leader, Bouchard is Oakland County Sheriff. "

Yup, my goof. They're both idiots but Bouchard "graduated" from his role as a Lansing idiot to come spread his stupidity back here in OC.

Novine... term limits sure makes it difficult to stay current, doesn't it?

One former idiot mayor works for an IT shop in Texas another former idiot governor works for an IT shop in Virginia....

Lord knows what the next idiot politician will be working as....

**unclefrank** · May-01-10, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Novine

Bouchard is an idiot and the fact that he's the Majority Leader in the Senate is yet another example of how messed up Lansing is these days.

Roger that on the idiot part.

Retroit · May-01-10, 10:11 AM

Bouchard for Governor!

**fionalowther** · May-01-10, 10:53 AM

Anybody figure out how much Moroun's capricious litigation is causing the taxpayers?
Now he accuses Granholm of being an agent for Canada and claims he's being discriminated against because he's an Arab American. Aw, c'mon, Matty; ain't you ashamed? -- What about the oft-repeated claim that your bridge toll money goes to Hezbollah terrorists? [[Aren't they the ones who killed so many of our Marines?)
I know that "whoever dies with the most toys wins," but Matty, forget about the stupid bridge: It's time to retire and start counting your money. Or even better: Think of something worthwhile to do with it . . . after all, when you go, God won't want it.

**Patrick** · May-01-10, 12:10 PM

Mike Bouchard? The same salad-tosser who wanted the Big 3 to fail. Yeah, he's a real winner that guy there.

**buildingsofdetroit** · May-03-10, 04:59 PM

Gee, shocking.

"In addition to Matty Maroun giving Bouchardâ€™s campaign $3,400, so did Dan Stamper, president of the Detroit International Bridge Company, as did several members of Marounâ€™s family, according to Secretary of State records."

**aerotropolis** · May-03-10, 06:13 PM

Apparently, candidate Bouchard doesn't care what the south side of the river has for concerns- " I don't want the Canadian Govt telling MI how to spend its money"... Alas

Originally Posted by esp1986

have got to agree with bouchard on the bridge... why spend billions of taxpayer money we dont have to do something that Moroun will do for free, no public money? the whole terrorism threat theory is a load of BS.