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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    Quote: "A good news aggregator like Google"

    Hate to break it to you, but they are biased as well. They block content from searches.
    Sure, but what they DONT block is there. There are others. And BTW, FOX is NOT blocked on their site, nor are many conservative blogs. So what the hell are they censoring? Biased, my ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    7 0ut of 50 is 14%. 14% of the country has a law addressing open carry. Is it then valid to say "It is illegal"? You'd be wrong 86% [[coincidence?) of the time. So, how is my statement untrue?
    So you agree that the sole purpose of openly carrying a loaded firearm to a large public gathering is to physically intimidate others with threat of bodily harm?

    I'm gonna walk down the street here in South Carolina this evening, carrying a loaded handgun. When I get arrested for doing so, I'll tell them that Sstashmoo said:

    It's not illegal to possess a firearm in public, you are aware of that?
    Do you have ZERO appreciation for nuance and exceptions, my good man? Does it ALWAYS have to be some sort of irresponsibile, overblown, ridiculuous half-truth blanket statement with you?

    The fact is, your little pro-gun statement isn't true until you add the qualifying phrase, "...in the 32 states that permit it."
    Last edited by ghettopalmetto; April-15-10 at 01:34 PM.

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    ... bring loaded weapons to large public gatherings
    ... of angry, confrontational people. That's irresponsible.

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    I think if Tea Partiers are going to show up to rallies armed and foaming at the mouth, we need to start air-lifting free bottles of Jim Beam and Jack Daniels into their rallies--with little parachutes on each bottle, so as not to hurt anyone. I mean, what's more Real American than a little whiskey?

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    How do you decide what is "fact", what is "BS", and what is "entertainment"?
    Audio clip of Al Sharpton saying Clarence Thomas does not "count" as a black man: Fact.

    A talk show host saying that Barack Obama is going to make himself king and cancel elections: BS

    A talk show host yelling at someone on the phone that disagrees with them and calling them a
    big dummy: Entertainment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto View Post
    I think if Tea Partiers are going to show up to rallies armed and foaming at the mouth, we need to start air-lifting free bottles of Jim Beam and Jack Daniels into their rallies--with little parachutes on each bottle, so as not to hurt anyone. I mean, what's more Real American than a little whiskey?
    Hey, there's an idea! Add liquor to a crowd of angry, well-armed, ignorant rednecks. Better yet, have the whole event inside a fortress, where they can get in arguments over whether Obama's a "socialist Muslim" or a "fascist Nazi" and end up shooting each other. Problem solved, courtesy of the First and Second Amendments.

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    http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=433x269496

    In follow-up interviews, Tea Party supporters said they did not want to cut Medicare or Social Security -- the biggest domestic programs, suggesting instead a focus on "waste."

    Some defended being on Social Security while fighting big government by saying that since they had paid into the system, they deserved the benefits.

    Others could not explain the contradiction.

    "That's a conundrum, isn't it?" asked Jodine White, 62, of Rocklin, Calif. "I don't know what to say. Maybe I don't want smaller government. I guess I want smaller government and my Social Security." She added, "I didn't look at it from the perspective of losing things I need. I think I've changed my mind.
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  8. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto View Post
    I think if Tea Partiers are going to show up to rallies armed and foaming at the mouth, we need to start air-lifting free bottles of Jim Beam and Jack Daniels into their rallies--with little parachutes on each bottle, so as not to hurt anyone. I mean, what's more Real American than a little whiskey?
    Maybe you could get some from the State Dept. After all, it was purchased with our tax dolars.
    http://community.marketwatch.com/gro...artments-stiff

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    This past Sunday, there was a tea-party gathering in Clinton Township which had local news coverage leading up to the event; I got an email about a counter-protest [[yea), and so...
    When I got up there [[not quite 10 a.m.), from what I could see, the actual teabag-party folks out there were clearly in the low thousands.. The event was being held at a public park with a library situated nearby; I parked in a very crowded lot, grabbed my homemade signs and camera and made my way to where the counter-protest folk had gathered.. There were no more than a couple dozen of them/us, holding up signs supporting Obama and/or criticizing the neocon platform.. http://tinyurl.com/y76qc8j

    The group's organizers decided to break up earlier than i thought they would, as the main tea party was still in full swing; I decided to stick around, and do a walkthrough of the 'main event'.. I called myself looking for 'minority-folk', but I just didn't see any [[granted, the main stage area was swamped, I meandered mostly in the middle & outer areas).. There were tables/booths set up wtih conservative-culture literature and handouts, a guy selling hot dogs & drinks, would-be candidates for congress in michigan.. lots of the "don't tread on me" flags, and a preponderence of seniors.. There were two really big charter buses which seemed to be the official traveling vehicle of the organizers.. http://tinyurl.com/yyf4lzj

    This Mr. Marcus apparently showed up after I had left, as he was seen in a photo taken by the local big newspapers http://tinyurl.com/yd7wlkh I would have stayed just for the novelty of seeing a black teabagger in action.. heh.. based on the stuff he's got on his website, wow, he's corny-- as a singer, for one thing-- and his platform I have no interest in.. Like the 'Zo guy, he seems to espouse nothing different from the more famous GOP mouthpieces.. I found it amusing that he uplifts [[claims to have been at) the '63 "I have a dream" speech, but mentions nothing of the conserva-culture hostility to the MLK holiday, and of course, his take on 'the dream' is to embrace an uncritically 'colorblind' aesthetic..

  10. #85

    Default Oladub attends tea party!!!

    That's right. This is something I wanted to share with all you tea party virgins. Last night while I was sitting at my computer playing Ron Paul videos, blue light started coming in between the cracks of my venetian blinds. I was wondering about that when "BANG" the southeast corner of my house shook. It was a sign. No longer content to just post national polling information or believe, as some do here, that attending a tea party subject's one to dangerous demons, I went to a tea party today. It turned out to be way more boring than I anticipated. Everyone was nice and the weather was almost too pleasant. Having Tommie Thompson as the keynote speaker caused at least 10 groups to cancel out. The State news media pretty much ignored the tea party and its participants and just focused on Thompson's speech which is one reason that Sarah Palin or other celebrities shouldn't be invited.

    A spokeman claimed there were 10,000 present. I thought it looked more like a crowd of 2,400, and the police said there were 4,500; up from 3,000 last year.

    One of the tea party speakers was Black. Otherwise, the only Blacks I remember were one of the Democrat counter protesters and various pedestrians who walked through the crowd to get from A to B.

    I wore my Ron Paul T-shirt hoping to provoke neocons but failed in that pursuit. I did get what may have been some apprehensive looks balanced by an equal number of thumbs up. I never settled into the crowd prefering its edges. The head of the State Libertarian Party remembered me from a picnic in someone's backyard. The Libertarians had a stand and it was sort of a comfort zone for me. I talked to them awhile. Seeing my T-shirt, a reporter from New York City radio station, or so he claimed, interviewed both me and the head of the Libertarian Party for his Monday program. Maybe that will be my 15 minutes.

    Across the street were about 35 Democrat libs with their Feingold and anti-tea party signs. I decided to visit and reach out to them. We bonded with our mutual distaste for Tommy Thompson. The Democrats were nice too. One of the Democrat ladies told me she went across the street with her sign to 'stir things up' but the tea partiers had been nice to her. I think she was a little disappointed. Maybe it was the too pleasant weather or maybe it was the blue light hovering over us the night before but the whole thing felt more like a harmony picnic that some sort of anger fest.

    The guy [[not shown) wearing a suit and wearing a paper mache pig head to make a point about Wall Street turned out to be one of my Ron Paul comrades. Should have known.


    Today's WI State Journal photos of dangerous, racist, gun-totin, dum as rocks, uneducated, crazed, secessionist, birther, frothing, morans.
    Last edited by oladub; April-15-10 at 11:35 PM. Reason: grammar, spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    The main gist, is attacking some grammar. Who cares? I'm not a gambler, but I'd load up on most of the signs there had correct spelling and grammar. So the article is bullshit. What is being overlooked, is people are getting angry, and angry enough to start demonstrating. Some of these people could not even explain why they are there, but they are there. These are not the "regulars" who bow their neck about everything. This is the old "silent majority", that have gotten out of their easy chairs. This movement could turn in to a much larger group, quite easily.

    It could be suggested, as Obama's approval rating falls, the Teabagger's are gaining support.
    It could be suggested, as Obama's approval rating falls, the Teabagger's aren't gaining support and are still a bunch of whackos.

  12. #87
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    Yep, one thing I can say for that group, Dubby, and your attendance...

    Birds of a feather flock together.

    And you know what they say about birds and their mental capacity.




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    And truth be known, looking over that crowd, they don't seem to have much going for them.
    I'm sorry for giving birds a bad name.
    Last edited by Stosh; April-15-10 at 11:44 PM.

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    Quote: "It could be suggested, as Obama's approval rating falls, the Teabagger's aren't gaining support"

    And you'd be arguing against the polls.

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    It could be suggested, as Obama's approval rating falls, the Teabagger's aren't gaining support and are still a bunch of whackos.
    Continuing with this mindset will motivate them against thier opposition.
    Are you sure that picking on them is a good strategy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypestyles View Post
    his take on 'the dream' is to embrace an uncritically 'colorblind' aesthetic..
    What's wrong with being colorblind? To be anything but colorblind futher promotes racial profiling, division and racism. But to liberals, racism is AOK when it comes to discriminating against white people. Just like Stosh's thinly veiled but blatantly obvious racism towards the white people at the tea party Oladub attended.

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    although it was nice to hear attending the tea party movement was nice experience...here in the south...one of my student's husband came home after attending our rally [[5000)...and while frothing at the mouth and telling his wife that socialism is coming and that he "hopes all that voted for the HCR die of cancer"...caused her to question being married to him...of course I told her that he was just fired up ...but also when asking how to respond to the growing number of family members that are interested in this movement I suggested that she give them the book Healthcare Politics, Policy and Services....she replied that they don't read much and even if they did they would have said it was written by Liberals.....so much for debate... I then politely told her to say I respectfully disagree with your position and while you are exercising your rights, I chose to exercise mine and support a different path to compassionate change.

    I applaud Olad for going there... I wonder why those 10 groups didn't show...maybe in truth there really is two tea parties..one that want reform and those racists who just needed cover...we shall see...if this movement becomes about guns, state militias and secessionist activities..well that would be tragic...

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    john...do actually understand racism? power structures? how social justice really works? and how it is for people in minority cultures, that are judged first by the color of their cells in the organ that we call skin....do you realize that the main issues we "liberals" [[ proud American that I am...coming form a lifetime of service for my country ...with my father before me a marine) have with this movement and SOME of its members [[thanks Ola)? We don't disagree with the right to hold divergent convictions, what we resent is the racist remarks, signs and behavior. The cloaked prejudice, the "i got mine attitudes"...the call for civil wars and watering the tree of liberty folks...we can't understand why these folks take marching orders from big business and Glen Beck, and prefer insurance control HC over government, believe in less regulations [[see mining disaster), do not feel environmental issues are as important as energy, see social justice as democratic as apple pie or cherry for those whose taste indicate, respect human life after birth and even before, see all people as created equal and understand that diversity makes this country stronger....and resent prejudice [[seeing it as the second original sin)...

    John that's why we question the agenda of the far right ...as much as I would question the agenda of the far left...

    But what I fail to see today as the president decreased nukes, housing starts are up, we have gone after terrorists wherever they are, stood up to inequality in the middle-east, helped bring humanity to the GLT population by letting them visit loved ones, is slowly turning the economy around and has support Mars exploration...get ZERO credit form anyone on the right.
    Last edited by gibran; April-16-10 at 10:12 AM.

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    I think we all owe Ola a "thank you" and a golf clap for going and providing a firsthand account.

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    The pics O'dub posted are not what the media is portraying. Looks like a good cross section of blue and white collar America. Would like to see a little more ethnic diversity there though.

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    Gibran wrote: " I wonder why those 10 groups didn't show...maybe in truth there really is two tea parties..one that want reform and those racists who just needed cover...we shall see...if this movement becomes about guns, state militias and secessionist activities..well that would be tragic... "
    You are probably correct about there being two tea parties. Those groups who didn't show were angry that Tommie Thompson had been invited in as their keynote speaker in this case. The former governor spent so much as governor that he had to use all the State's tobacco settlement money, which was supposed to go to tobacco victims, to balance one of his annual budgets. He is a busisnessman now and attracted $71M of porkulus to businesses he is connected to using his former perch as the Secretary of HHS. This guy is as crooked as they come. He even has an implanted microchip device because he is on the board of a company that makes them. The last thing we need is for Tommy to be a US Senator. Some of the tea partiers would like any Republican to win while other tea partiers would like to return to small government fiscal conservatism.

    At the rally I went to, a group called Americans for Prosperity had deep pockets tt run a free shuttle service from a distant parking lot. That's the kind of thing I don't like. I don't know whose money is behind such give aways. I believe that is also the group that let Tommie in.

    One of my Ron Paul buddies, a building contractor, did manage to get himself on the TV news though and blast Tommie. The article, and especially the 2 minute video spell out the chasm between the mainstream Republicans and the grassroot conservatives.

    I could only report on the tea party I went to. There might be a lot of variablity depending on where conducted and by whom. I was at a BeauSoleil concert once in which Michael Doucet stopped the music and sort of scolded the audience for not standing on our seats like they would be doing in Louisiana he said. I thought that the audience was appreciative but he wasn't used to playing to upper midwest audiences. Like the old Norwegian said about a comedian, "He was so funny, I wanted to laugh". So, in the same manner, it could be that tea parties have regional differences and I just happen to be in a very civil place, Jeffrey Dahmer aside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsmith View Post
    What's wrong with being colorblind? To be anything but colorblind futher promotes racial profiling, division and racism. But to liberals, racism is AOK when it comes to discriminating against white people. Just like Stosh's thinly veiled but blatantly obvious racism towards the white people at the tea party Oladub attended.
    I'd cross post this to the "Oh F*$k You" thread, but there's not one here. Pity.

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    From SourceWatch.org: Americans for Prosperity
    AFP was one of the lead organizations behind the Tax Day Tea Party protests April 15, 2009....
    This is interesting:
    After being accused of astroturfing for corporate interests, Americans for Prosperity volunteers started making hand-made signs for rally participants to [give] more of an appearance of an actual grassroots crowd. Many of the pre-made signs had small “AFP” markers on them. Speakers at AFP rallies started mocking the "AstroTurf" and "Brooks Brothers" themes in nearly every speech at the rallies.
    So that's how astroturfers conceal their astroturfiness! Who would have thunk deception could be so truthy.

    Grass roots, my ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    The pics O'dub posted are not what the media is portraying. Looks like a good cross section of blue and white collar America. Would like to see a little more ethnic diversity there though.
    Look closer. You can see the drool coming from the corners of their mouths.
    And that glazed look isn't from jelly donuts either.

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    Thanks for the pictures of the fossilized ancient Cretins.

    Looks like the well-fed cultists are not about to give up their socialist government subsidized agribusiness foodstuffs [[processed by the hands of the dreaded "illegals" of course!)

    I'lll wager that they used the socialist interstate freeways to travel to the demonstration after receiving information on the socialist internet, which, as you all know, was invented as part of a socialist, big government research program.

    Some of them look like they are sucking at the socialist teat of the socialist social security and or medicare systems.

    Still, one feels a bit of pain making snide comments about them, it's very much like making fun of retarded people or of Barbara Rose-Collins supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    The pics O'dub posted are not what the media is portraying. Looks like a good cross section of blue and white collar America. Would like to see a little more ethnic diversity there though.
    Angry white middle-aged and elderly people in t-shirts. Yup, that just about covers all 300 million of us.

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