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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    You are deluded and nothing but a fountain of lies.
    For example...
    Man it must suck to look upon others the way you do.
    Actually, I have no problem with people who recognize that their religion is just a bunch of beliefs that they can't prove. I must admit that I thought I was living in a nation of morons when they elected the shrub. Twice!

    Quote: "absurd parody of evolution brought to you by fundies who smell their source of income threatened."

    Oh is that right? So if you could find some key piece of evidence, you could abolish religion?
    I don't claim to have that ability. The acceptance of new ideas, no matter how much supporting evidence there is, usually requires that quite a few old-time thinkers die off. The concept of a sun-centered solar system didn't get accepted even in a couple generations.

    Look Nancy Drew, if you could find a living half man-half ape, and led it by the hand to a Church, it wouldn't change anything. In my "parody" above, do you know the whereabouts of these fossils, that are supposedly under wraps?
    I haven't talked about any fossils here. Again your example is absurd. It shows the level of discussion that is occurring among fundamentalists.

    Quote: "If you don't understand it, you only embarass yourself by talking about your version of evolution. "

    Well, could you if you don't mind, explain where we came from - evolution in one paragraph, Condense it please.. I need a good laugh today.
    This is a typical weaselly fundie ploy. There have been tons of books written about evolution. You could start educating yourself by going to the archives of talkorigins.org and looking up your favorite creationist lie.

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    Quote: "There have been tons of books written about evolution."

    This is the "I knew a guy" or "my buddy knows a guy" defense. You must base your stance on something other than "tons of books" or some biased website. You must have some compendium you could draw on and lay out here, bolstering your claim. Let's see it..

    Quote: "I must admit that I thought I was living in a nation of morons when they elected the shrub. Twice!"

    I agree with that. I think it was more an indicator of how disappointed we all were with Bill Clinton.

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    I always find it soooo interesting how much venom and brimstone comes from religious people when they are challenged about their beliefs. Kind of like their beliefs : venom and brimstone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    Quote: "There have been tons of books written about evolution."

    This is the "I knew a guy" or "my buddy knows a guy" defense. You must base your stance on something other than "tons of books" or some biased website. You must have some compendium you could draw on and lay out here, bolstering your claim. Let's see it..
    You can start by going to talkorigins.org and perusing their archives. Look up your favorite creationist myth.

    Quote: "I must admit that I thought I was living in a nation of morons when they elected the shrub. Twice!"

    I agree with that. I think it was more an indicator of how disappointed we all were with Bill Clinton.
    In 2004, after Bush's tax cuts for the rich and his unnecessary war? The only arguments I heard against Kerry had to do with the way he looked and what he did in Vietnam. After the failure of the neocons' deregulation of the banking industry which nearly led to the failure of our entire economy, I don't know why anyone would vote Republican. AS long as people over 60 are the major voting block, this country will be at the mercy of people many of whom have short-term memory issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxx View Post
    You can start by going to talkorigins.org and perusing their archives. Look up your favorite creationist myth.

    In 2004, after Bush's tax cuts for the rich and his unnecessary war? The only arguments I heard against Kerry had to do with the way he looked and what he did in Vietnam. After the failure of the neocons' deregulation of the banking industry which nearly led to the failure of our entire economy, I don't know why anyone would vote Republican. AS long as people over 60 are the major voting block, this country will be at the mercy of people many of whom have short-term memory issues.
    Good points. But the question remains ; why would anyone vote demican? I understand the argument that they're the lesser of the two evils, though I barely buy it. Any other argument to be made in their defense? I can barely bring myself to vote for the other half of our ruling class of almost two parties, except after 8 years of Bush and Cheney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1KielsonDrive View Post
    Good points. But the question remains ; why would anyone vote demican? I understand the argument that they're the lesser of the two evils, though I barely buy it. Any other argument to be made in their defense?
    They won't vote for more tax cuts for the super rich. You know the Republicans will.

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    Signs of progress in Britain.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_559244.html
    "... Laws said "religious faith is necessarily subjective, being incommunicable by any kind of proof or evidence." He added that to use the law to protect "a position held purely on religious grounds cannot therefore be justified."...

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