GOP fear pimping exposed

[barnesfoto]

The Republican National Committee plans to raise money this election cycle through an aggressive campaign capitalizing on “fear� of President Barack Obama and a promise to "save the country from trending toward socialism."

The strategy was detailed in a confidential party fundraising presentation, obtained by POLITICO, which also outlines how “ego-driven� wealthy donors can be tapped with offers of access and “tchochkes.�

The presentation was delivered by RNC Finance Director Rob Bickhart to top donors and fundraisers at a party retreat in Boca Grande, Florida on February 18, a source at the gathering said.

In neat PowerPoint pages, it lifts the curtain on the often-cynical terms of political marketing, displaying an air of disdain for the party’s donors that is usually confined to the barroom conversations of political operatives.



more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz0hHfoHZEg

[Big Dog]

This kind of thing appears to be typical of the party.

[oldredfordette]

It's all they got.

[Mikeg]

August 7th, 2009, 08:48 PM
barnesfoto
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perhaps because they are part of a recently discredited sick cult that once was a legitimate political party, and one of the tactics of any sick cult is the use of fear to motivate people.

Why all of this worry and concern over a "recently discredited.... once.... legitimate political party"? Have you forgotten your own words echoing the Nov. 2008 post-mortems declaring that the Republican Party is no longer a national party, just a regional one that is on life support?

On the subject of "the use of fear to motivate people", President Obama [[and Democrat Congressional leaders) masterfully used it to push through the pork-laden, largest spending bill in US history:

“If we do not move swiftly to sign the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act into law, an economy that is already in crisis will be faced with catastrophe. Millions more Americans will lose their jobs. Homes will be lost. Families will go without health care. Our crippling dependence on foreign oil will continue. That is the price of inaction." [source]

Big Dog:
This kind of thing appears to be typical of the party.

Unfortunately, it is typical of both parties:

RNC document caricatures Obama, appeals to fear
By JIM KUHNHENN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON [[AP) -- Barack Obama is "The Joker." Nancy Pelosi is portrayed as Cruella De Vil, and Harry Reid as Scooby Doo - all part of a Republican Party pitch to top fundraisers.........

"This is inartfully done," [Republican strategist John] Feehery said. But he said Democrats once tried to scare their donors about President George W. Bush's "fascism" and about Sarah Palin's supposed "stupidity and her religious zealotry."
"The ugly truth of fundraising is you try to caricature the opposition - you don't get any money if you call your opponent a good guy," Feehery said.

[Papasito]

This kind of thing appears to be typical of the party.

of both parties.
let's get real here.
if I had a dollar for every time Barack said the word Crisis and threatened Catastrophies, I could quit my job and buy a home on Miami Beach

[gibran]

kind a like 9/11 from Rudy and Terrorists from republicans...so lets recognize it for what "it" is...

[Papasito]

and "it" would be two parties that treat us like pawns, fearmongering, scaring old people that thier medicaid and social security is going to be taken away, promising amnesty for illegals to buy thier votes, promising tax cuts to buy peoples votes, ect ect ect
People blindly following thier party lines and thinking the opposite party is the appitimy of evil while thier own is draped in a sacred cloth with a halo over thier head.... not realizing that both parties are power hungry scumbags who are out of touch with the average American and care more about appeasing the people they see every day instead of what is right for the United States of America...

Democrats need to hold thier politicians accountable and take the blinders off.
Republicans need to hold thier politicians accountable and take the blinders off.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Democrats could not use a "tea party" like movement in order to hold thier politicians accountable and call them out when they cave to special interests, ect. Continuing with the same old - same old with only lead to more of the same.

Two wrongs dont make a right.
Saying Pot meet Kettle does not make America a better place.
Vote scumbags in your own party out of office and replace them with better people.
Neither party can afford to keep voting for people who promise the world and not deliver.

[Retroit]

Well, I'm afraid of Obama trending our country toward socialism. Shouldn't we all be?

[gibran]

Im a independent that votes for the party that shows compassion for the workers, people with disabilities, our children, our elderly and humanity in general...hard to find now days...but I see more of that in our president than in our congress...so in principle I would agree ....we have to stop special interests that represent foriegn governments and big business..not the environemnt and people's rights.

[barnesfoto]

"Have you forgotten your own words echoing the Nov. 2008 post-mortems declaring that the Republican Party is no longer a national party, just a regional one that is on life support?"

I would say that the GOP is two national parties, as the McCain reelection in AZ illustrates. Both sides seem to be pretending that they are not the same GOP, except that this memo proves otherwise.
As OR said "It's all that they've got".

No accomplisments, just fear.

If the dems are using fear by expressing worries about the economy, perhaps what John McCain said about the economy being sound is true? Which is more worrisome, the state of the economy or whether or not Obama is a socialist, which I think has already been proven.

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"If you know not what a witch is, how do you know that you are not one"?
[[Arthur Miller, The Crucible)

[Jimaz]

So their fund raising plan is to mock their own donors?! Brilliant.

A major Republican donor described the state of the RNC’s relationship with major donors as “disastrous,� with veteran givers beginning to abandon the committee, which is becoming increasingly reliant on small donors.

It would be more effective to start blaming their troubles on George W. Bush. But they burned that bridge down with all their Bush basher bashing! Hilarious!

[Pam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U87cHQAtnY0

[Jimaz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U87cHQAtnY0

Interesting heart-shaped graphic in that presentation. What was the psyops reason for selecting that particular shape, I wonder?

I've seen those fake census mailings. You'd think they'd understand that politicians sending blatantly deceptive solicitations to their own supporters would alienate that very support. It seems they've become so wrapped up in the idea of deception as a successful strategy that they'll even lie to their own supporters and they believe that their own supporters will appreciate being lied to -- elitism indeed.

There's some kind of bizarre Orwellian sado-masochistic dynamic operating there.

[Zacha341]

Yep, well stated. If your fully engaged in partisan loyalty you can see the "look over here" game is played equally - and often. Yet there are facts and consequences that are beyond partisan "talking points" and fear pimping. Many of the independents get that.

of both parties.
let's get real here.
if I had a dollar for every time Barack said the word Crisis and threatened Catastrophies, I could quit my job and buy a home on Miami Beach

[oldredfordette]

Please give an example of Democrats using the kind of fear porn regularly employed by the Republicans.

[Patrick]

I would say that the GOP is two national parties,

I think the GOP is fragmented into a hell of a lot more groups than that. At least the Dems are able to usuallu come together but the Repubs always have more internal fighting.

[firstandten]

I think the GOP is fragmented into a hell of a lot more groups than that. At least the Dems are able to usuallu come together but the Repubs always have more internal fighting.

First of all lets get clear that the name of the game is to win elections, if people happen to be helped in the process so much the better. The GOP is the minority party [[ there are more registered Dems than Repubs nationwide) so if all things are equal the GOP should lose elections. Fear is a effective stategy used by the GOP to increase the chance of winning elections. You want to either piss people off so much that they don't go to the polls, or demonize the opponent so much that people will think that person will destroy the american way of life if elected. Either way its a win for the GOP.

Right now the GOP is hi-jacked by the fringe elements whereas the Dems are not. Thats why you don't see the amount and type of fear mongering among the Dems.

The thing that the GOP does have going for it is the ability thru the media, primarilary thru its millionaire talk show hosts to get out that message.

I guess the GOP will double down on its strategy, because the demographics of the country aren't in its favor and thats why you are seeing the crazy stuff coming out about Obama.

You sure won't be seeing any Repubs like Dwight Eisenhower any time in the near future. Tom Hartmann always likes to say that Bill Clinton governed to the right of Eisenhower. A person like Ike would not be tolerated in the GOP in todays climate.

Ultimately I believe the Repubs will continue the strategy out into the future because they don't have a lot of options to win the people over besides tax cuts and thats only effective to a certain point. Plus they equate the Dems to Santa Claus and they know you can't beat Santa.

Another strategy that is effective for them is when they get into control , they give the people there tax cuts but on the back end spend like crazy and run up the deficit to the point that when the Dems get back in power they have no wiggle room to play Santa Claus. The Repubs then hammer about the deficit and before you know it the people are mad and they are back in power.

[Retroit]

Please give an example of Democrats using the kind of fear porn regularly employed by the Republicans.

47 million Americans are going to die tomorrow because they don't have health care.

I think the GOP is fragmented into a hell of a lot more groups than that. At least the Dems are able to usuallu come together but the Repubs always have more internal fighting.

You must have been out of the country in 2007-8 when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were competing for the nomination. The Republicans will come together when they are in power; until then, they have to vie for position.

The thing that the GOP does have going for it is the ability thru the media, primarilary thru its millionaire talk show hosts to get out that message.

And the Democrats don't have any national media on their side? How about MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, etc.

I hope I'm not giving the impression that I am totally pro-conservative, anti-liberal. I'm just trying to keep it real. While both sides may take different stands on issues, their political techniques/practices are very similar.

[firstandten]

47 million Americans are going to die tomorrow because they don't have health care.

Care to state when that was said ?

And the Democrats don't have any national media on their side? How about MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, etc..

You miss the context of the point I was trying to make. Its not that there are liberal media out there. There is, but the fair and balance Fox News and Rush and his ilk have trememous clout in getting the minority party fear message and other talking points out there to counter the superior numbers of registered Dems. Besides at least the NYT and others make a point in trying to be fair and balance. The right wing media is basically an infomercial disguised as fair and balance news.

[Jimaz]

A couple of interesting items in today's Detroit News:

House bans misleading census letters
Washington -- The House passed legislation Wednesday that would ban misleading mailings designed to appear they're from the Census Bureau, following criticism that Republican groups were sending fundraising letters using the census name.

NYC judge: Government must stop blocking money to ACORN : A federal judge who found it unconstitutional that Congress tried to cut funding to the activist group ACORN has rejected a government request to change her mind and has ordered government agencies to make it clear the funding isn't blocked.

[Papasito]

the fair and balance Fox News and Rush and his ilk have trememous clout in getting the minority party fear message and other talking points out there to counter the superior numbers of registered Dems. Besides at least the NYT and others make a point in trying to be fair and balance. The right wing media is basically an infomercial disguised as fair and balance news.

then why does the opposing party not do the same thing? and do it in a way that actually gets people to watch/listen? i know the did try it with airamerica, which failed miserably. maybe find some people with some talent, who can entertain and get thier point across, and give it a whirl... it's a free country, both sides can find thier avenue to make thier talking points and spew thier propaganda if they choose to

[oldredfordette]

Most progressive, left wing people don't have to have their opinions fed to them in small, easy to digest doses like the right wing [[Dittoheads anybody?). Air America failed because it's not interesting. NPR succeeds because it engages your mind with alternative views.

[Papasito]

but having an informative, entertaining program that keeps the left engaged and up to date on current events is not a bad thing

[oldredfordette]

The left is engaged and up to date on current events, Papasito. We read these things called "books". And "newspapers", lots of different ones. Try listening to "music" on the radio and kill your television.

[gibran]

while the left has views represented as counter to main stream...the extemists on Fox plays to fear, patriotism[[their brand) and trys to hide behind values driven rhetoric while trying to spew division...