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    Default Detroit's next white mayor

    I consider this a spin-off of the race-maybe thread. Since racism seems to be a major problem in the Detroit area, my question is when do anyone Detroit see another white mayor, and also for black posters, would you consider voting for one ?

    I'm black myself, and I won't hesitate to look at skin color if I consider talented, or qualified for the job !

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    The next non-black mayor will likely be hispanic.

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    Hud, maybe but not likely. The only hispanic, Elena Herrada ran for council and didn't get elected. Damn shame really.

    Voted for Coleman and he rejected my neighborhood. Voted for Kwame and he ignored the neighborhoods. Voted for Cockrel and he didn't win but we used to see his face in the city at large.

    The new mayor wants to "right size" Detroit. I understand the concept but logistically it would be a nightmare. I also highly disaprove that he brought back the same old hacks who have been around for forever. Must be they were all in the same fraternity.

    I do not vote color or party affliation. Just want a mayor and council that can really govern. Voted for Granholm, she is one sharp lady but failed miserably as govenor. Maybe I should quit voting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumas View Post
    Hud, maybe but not likely. The only hispanic, Elena Herrada ran for council and didn't get elected. Damn shame really.

    Voted for Coleman and he rejected my neighborhood. Voted for Kwame and he ignored the neighborhoods. Voted for Cockrel and he didn't win but we used to see his face in the city at large.

    The new mayor wants to "right size" Detroit. I understand the concept but logistically it would be a nightmare. I also highly disaprove that he brought back the same old hacks who have been around for forever. Must be they were all in the same fraternity.

    I do not vote color or party affliation. Just want a mayor and council that can really govern. Voted for Granholm, she is one sharp lady but failed miserably as govenor. Maybe I should quit voting.
    Let's ask Detroit Renaissance and/or the Detroit Regional Chamber. They've picked our last three mayors for us.

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    I dont think Detroit will have a white mayor until there is a majority white back in the city again to vote for him/her. When Obama was elected a lot [[of course not all) of the black communnity were saying the whites wont vote for him because he is black, but thats the EXACT reason they voted for him because he was black. Big double standard.

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    I am really kind of surprised at this sort of question. This sort of stuff can bring up the divisiveness that this forum was created to help put away [[City vs Suburbs, USA vs Canada, Whites vs Blacks).

    That being said, blacks will always have a strong role to play in Detroit politics as blacks make up over 80 percent of the voters. A white candidate would be a dammed fool to not understand this, and theoretically race should not matter.

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    I think Jeff Fieger could have had a great chance at mayor, though those days have passed in my opinion. I think Roger Penske could have a shot if he played his cards right. He has money, business networks, and ability to make things happen. I happen to disagree on race playing a huge factor. If a person is qualified, Detroiters will vote for them, regardless of race.

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    Race should have no bearing on a seat such as being major of Detroit. Having said that what would happen if Detroit would have two majors?? Black and White major combination I think would be incredible for Detroit if we work hand in hand in reality it would work. I live in a mixed neighbourhood and love it. We need to focus on everyone,every race creed and colour... If we want to grow its about time we all work together. A city like Detroit with its history needs to be built out of the rubble back into what it is intended to be GREAT.

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    New Orleans is majority black, and yet a white mayor was just elected. He was the son of the last white mayor, who was very popular.

    The equivalent here I suppose would be if a son of Jerry Cavanagh ran and won...

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    Oakland elected Jerry Brown to two terms as mayor, I believe, and whites make up perhaps a third of its population. I certainly think a white candidate with a committed image and a clear program would have a shot. Maryann Mahaffey was the top council vote-getter until quite recently. This said, I don't see one on the horizon.

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    Getting a white Detroiter to run for mayor is VERY DIFFICULT. Race is a big factor in Detroit city politics. Over the past 40 years. After the election of Coleman A Young, Black Detroiters feel confident that not only a first black mayor will lead the city to the 21st century, but also lead other young or middle aged black community leaders into office. The result turned out to be HUGE. Today the city council is 100% black for the first time after Sheila Cockerel left office. We have a mayor who is former Detroit Piston point guard just doing his T.B.C. while being a H.A.A.I.C. [[ The head African American in charge) and most Detroit city employees are almost 90% black. While white Detroiters up to 1972 elects a white Detroit leaders, they seem to 'get the job done and keep blacks out of their 'postive form of the equation.' Now that tables have turned and black Detroit leaders in Detroit are reversing the equation. At the end of the 20th Century while White Detroiters have white Detroit leaders being corrupted, Black Detroiters have black Detroit leaders doing the same thing.


    Here's what a White Detroiter can do to get almost 80% of black support and became mayor:

    1. The White Detroit candidate must have some good history to have ties to black community, growing up the black community, having black friends and dealing with conflicts with blacks.

    2. Must have excellent priciples including help saving the black community from racial, political or destructive conflicts.

    3. Get some black Detroit churches to be their the white man's side. Most Black Christians are nice for it's in their God's laws to love their neighbor, love other cultures and love their enemies. A White Detroit candidate must get as many black mega churches to be on his or her side, and present proposals to fix our broken cities, built relationships with the world and fix black communties.

    If a White Detroit candidate does not do any of these community requirements, then Black Detroiters will vote black slate and stick to their black leaders to the end.

    In Gary Indiana, a poor dead broke steel town city, has elected a White mayor named Scott King http://www.wolverton-mountain.com/in.../mayorking.htm in the mid 1990s. Now he resigned, not for political corruption reasons but because he want to pursue his law firm. But Scott King kept Gary, Indiana a float for a while.

    One day if Black Detroiters stop playing the race game and using black slate and do some research and people of color's political principles, then once a white Detroit candidate comes in to run for mayor, He or she might win due to the candidates vows.

    WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET!

    We have a black man in the White House, but Detroit doesn't have a white man in the Black House.

    In Memoriam: Neda Soltani
    Last edited by Danny; February-26-10 at 10:04 AM.

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    Well, that was a real knee slapper!!
    Made my day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exmotowner View Post
    I dont think Detroit will have a white mayor until there is a majority white back in the city again to vote for him/her. When Obama was elected a lot [[of course not all) of the black communnity were saying the whites wont vote for him because he is black, but thats the EXACT reason they voted for him because he was black. Big double standard.
    You're absolutely right. It's a known fact that black voters have never, ever supported white democrats that run for President. [[Please note sarcasm). That 93-97% black vote that the democrats receive is a myth.

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    I voted for Obama. So far I think he is doing a good job. He inherited one hell of a mess. I don't see color when I vote.

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    Originally Posted by exmotowner I dont think Detroit will have a white mayor until there is a majority white back in the city again to vote for him/her. When Obama was elected a lot [[of course not all) of the black communnity were saying the whites wont vote for him because he is black, but thats the EXACT reason they voted for him because he was black. Big double standard.

    That is unethically not true, exmotowner. Your quotes is Non Sequitur. Detroit can have a chance for a white mayor. The answer is in its principles and its strong connection to the black community. Former Mayor Scott King of Gary Indiana did it and so can other mostly black cities in the United States.

    President Obama became president not because is black, but because he uses his politcal social reform of principles not only to black community but the white community. Obama recieves 70% out of the whole 12.5% of African America vote, 48% out of 15% Hispanic vote and 50.1% out of 75% of the White vote to become the first black president of United States. Please do your research first before your post any comments.

    Kraig quoted...

    'You're absolutely right. It's a known fact that black voters have never, ever supported white democrats that run for President. [[Please note sarcasm). That 93-97% black vote that the democrats receive is a myth.'

    Don't agree of what people say until their facts comes from of lot of people who are thinking the writing near the same equation in order to balance the status quo. In the mid 1990s Former President Bill Clinton became president for recieving 40.3% of the whole 12.3% black vote in the U.S. Clinton has strong ties to black community in Arkansas and well as few other black communities in the south. It was probably the first time since Kennedy/ Johnson Years that Clinton increase black democratic support in order to keep poltical representation in line.
    Last edited by Danny; February-26-10 at 11:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Originally Posted by exmotowner I dont think Detroit will have a white mayor until there is a majority white back in the city again to vote for him/her. When Obama was elected a lot [[of course not all) of the black communnity were saying the whites wont vote for him because he is black, but thats the EXACT reason they voted for him because he was black. Big double standard.

    That is unethically not true, exmotowner. Your quotes is Non Sequitur. Detroit can have a chance for a white mayor. The answer is in its principles and its strong connection to the black community. Former Mayor Scott King of Gary Indiana did it and so can other mostly black cities in the United States.

    President Obama became president not because is black, but because he uses his politcal social reform of principles not only to black community but the white community. Obama recieves 70% out of the whole 12.5% of African America vote, 48% out of 15% Hispanic vote and 50.1% out of 75% of the White vote to become the first black president of United States. Please do your research first before your post any comments.

    Kraig quoted...

    'You're absolutely right. It's a known fact that black voters have never, ever supported white democrats that run for President. [[Please note sarcasm). That 93-97% black vote that the democrats receive is a myth.'

    Don't agree of what people say until their facts comes from of lot of people who are thinking the writing near the same equation in order to balance the status quo. In the mid 1990s Former President Bill Clinton became president for recieving 40.3% of the whole 12.3% black vote in the U.S. Clinton has strong ties to black community in Arkansas and well as few other black communities in the south. It was probably the first time since Kennedy/ Johnson Years that Clinton increase black democratic support in order to keep poltical representation in line.
    You and I are in agreement 100%. You do realize I was being sarcastic? Hence, the "please note sarcasm" in parantheses.

    Black voters generally vote for the democratic candidate. So accordingly, it should come as no surprise that black voters would have voted for Obama. I was making fun of exmotowner's ridiculous statement.

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    You can make fun of me all you want. To me it is the truth. I didnt expect you to admit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exmotowner View Post
    You can make fun of me all you want. To me it is the truth. I didnt expect you to admit it.
    Admit what? That most black voters vote for the democratic party?

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    I don't think that most blacks would have any more reservations about voting for a white mayor than they would shopping in a white store, working for a white employer, going to a white school, or moving to a white neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraig View Post
    Admit what? That most black voters vote for the democratic party?
    Don't even bother trying to reason. Clearly no black person has ever voted for a white person before. A black person never voted for Jennifer Granholm, Ed McNamara, James Blanchard, Burton Leland, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore, Michael Dukakis, Jimmy Carter, etc... Nope, never.

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    Coleman Young was elected in a still majority Euro-American Detroit. I think right person with the right message for the time can be elected in just about anywhere in the US today regardless or ethnicity, gender or even sexual preference.

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    Your absolutely right Ihearted. Of course you are. Your not going to change my mind. Yes I know most blacks vote democratically.

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    If you google for information about the 2008 election results, Obama DID receive 95% of the black vote, and 67% of the Hispanic vote. Race was a "major factor" for 20% of the blacks polled about it [[8% of whites). Probably more in both categories than reported. Barack did get votes just because he is black, just like he lost votes just because he is black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraig View Post
    You and I are in agreement 100%. You do realize I was being sarcastic? Hence, the "please note sarcasm" in parantheses.

    Black voters generally vote for the democratic candidate. So accordingly, it should come as no surprise that black voters would have voted for Obama. I was making fun of exmotowner's ridiculous statement.
    No I don't agree with anyone's sarcasm that is an exchange from a lie to truth or a truth for a lie. You have written in your quote that 'You're absolutely right. It's a known fact that black voters have never, ever supported white democrats that run for President. [[Please note sarcasm). That 93-97% black vote that the democrats receive is a myth.'...and that myth is FALSE! Black folks have the power to support any politicial party they want. They can even support the Communist and Socialist Party and the The Palin's Teabagger party, too. Black folks have been supported white democrats before and after the Kennedy /Johnson years after the 14th and 15th Amendments to get blacks the right to vote in the 1870s. More blacks voted for Bill Clinton than other white democrat. Therefore be careful of writing your viewpoints about other people and cultures. You will be debated by some smart alecks like Rasputin to Blacksoul X.

    WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET

    Black folks can do ALL things through white folks which empowers their hopes and dreams and reform this backwards nation.

    In Memoriam: Neda Soltani.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartock View Post
    If you google for information about the 2008 election results, Obama DID receive 95% of the black vote, and 67% of the Hispanic vote. Race was a "major factor" for 20% of the blacks polled about it [[8% of whites). Probably more in both categories than reported. Barack did get votes just because he is black, just like he lost votes just because he is black.
    That data remains inconclusive. It's the political nerds or coorespondents and bloggers who deliver this inacuate information in the internet. Therefore its BIASED! Every political coorespondents, bloggers and geeks and political nerds who predicted that Obama is win the election is based out of street survey. Then 'they' reported to Gallop Polls, inserted on every local news and Meet the Presses and people will believe it. I don't think that 95% of the blacks and 67% of Hispanics voted for Obama. Yes race is matter in political elections but so it principles. My theory is Obama recieves 70% out of the whole 12.5% of African American vote, 48% out of 15% Hispanic vote and 50.1% out of 75% of the White vote to become the first black president of United States. That data is not proven to be a fact or a act of science, but just a theory and not a myth. The result of the matter is that Google, Twitter any other political nerds or coorespondents, bloggers, geeks could not the real results of the precentage of the elections, only create a survey theory. The real results of the election could be process in the electral college, however their data may not recieve up the last vote. Therefore the precentage of blacks, whites, hispanics, asians ect.. have not been officially counted, yet.

    There is NO final result of the true precentage of the whole data from anyone at anyplace during the every U.S. elections.We can only make predictions, theories with no absolute conclusions.

    WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET

    Don't believe what the media says for Neda Soltani's sake.

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