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    "the structure of American society is being demolished brick by brick [[deregulation). Within a few short years, Americans will have reached the "liberty" seized by Jean-Jaques Rousseau, the abolition of every particular dependency[[ of government intervention). This is what Hannah Arendt called "the atomic mass," a precondition for the establishment of totalitarianism. p 178 Buchanan.

    This what scares most people about the right's call that liberals are the evil of the world and out to ruin our country...and that there is but one way...

    I personally advocate that those on the far left and those in the rock fields of the right are tearing the country apart..

    Whereas moderates are now called liberal by right-wing folks and radical conservatives as if they really want the American dream to fade and be replaced with a "socialist state" This conservative action of holding on to ideals and and the magical thinking that the Fonz and happy days were the apex of our culture is hurting our evolution..

    What needs to happen is a little Jeffersonian Revolt that brings on the next phase of our Democratic Revolution...we need to evolve..

    a) less control by powerful lobbies and foreign attachments
    b) stronger protectionism for American manufacturing'
    c) education and health care that is non discriminatory and available to all equally...
    d) that we practice social justice equally and those who can't contribute at equal rates have a level of accommodation and respect that balances out in the moral standards of a just society.
    e) adherence to laws that protect those who seek justice and realize there reason or agreement to have them in the first place;
    f) that our international agenda is not building a pax America but supporting change through our cultural and fair stances backed up by strong resolve when someone directly threatens our country;
    g) that we place value on all people, regardless of their cultural background..that we value all people equally and we focus our diplomacy at home and abroad on the concept of humanity not "my way" or no way;

    H) That if a baby dies in Africa because of poor water quality that we all cry and that our efforts to help those in need be focused on things that improve quality of life for others as well as taking care of the quality of life of our children too.

    I) Where does supporting dictators and countries that do not follow international laws help our security...when those countries violate international laws and morals have "made in the USA" on their weapons we have then to ask ourselves-who do they see as co-conspirators...an d in reality put us at risk too;
    J) "Give us a protective tariff and we will have the greatest country on earth" Abe Lincoln or "I'm Concerned about Protectionism" George Bush...


    in short maybe what the extreme right fears is a USA based on the founding father's words and the reality the it's embodiment of the "living constitution"- not what they actually did or didn't do [[slavery, discrimination and genocide). It seems what they fear is a USA that is reflective of those "happy day's" ideals behind the Happier Days if applied to all of our citizens equally ...but they cling to the myth of "Happy Days" without the realization of those images didn't extend itself to all of our citizens at the time equally...

    so I agree we can ignore Rush etal. and hope he goes away or is exposed for the hypocrite that he and his likes are or we can start to counter this divison with real discussion that brings out the moderates.

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    The Caftan Warlord, Brush Lintball, needs no help from anyone else in the process of crapping in the punchbowl, he's quite capable of doing that all by himself.

    His very existence is an embarrassment to all of us, and a waste of flesh.

    His ego is so inflated, that he actually allows the left to anoint him the titular head of the Repugnican party, and recently agreed to resign, as long as people stop talking about him.

    Problem is, when people stop talking about him, there's no more 40 million dollar contracts, book deals, interviews with Hannity the Manatee, Dickwad Cheney, etc.

    In truth, he represents no one intelligent, and is irrelevant.

  3. #53
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    Rush is comenting on the reality of what is happening as he sees it. He happens to be correct and resonates with a growing number of people...thanks to Obama proving him right every day.

  4. #54
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    Sorry, Batts, but reality is not an opinion.

    Slimebaugh is only trying to justify his 40 million dollar contract, and would have been just as harsh on McCain, since his paycheck depends on it.

    As foreign as this may sound to you, Repugnicans are not entitled to their own set of facts or "reality" as you put it.

    Facts are carved in stone, everything else is an opinion.

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    hmmmm... Dems openly disagree with Obama on numerous issues. No republican dares disagree with Rush. I can count on one hand the number of repubs who dared stand up to the bushies even when they knew they were wrong.

    i'd say, yet again, truth has a liberal bias

  6. #56
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    Bush and McCain disagreed with Rush on a few subjects [[they were both wrong). Could it be that Rush is compellingly correct in the vast majority of things that he says?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Bush and McCain disagreed with Rush on a few subjects [[they were both wrong). Could it be that Rush is compellingly correct in the vast majority of things that he says?
    hmmm...even when he has been proven wrong, shown to have knowingly lied, etc. you are a laugh, bats

  8. #58
    ccbatson Guest

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    When was that? He says that he is right only 99% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeofAletall View Post
    And the creepiest one of them all.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP60fa97D5I
    Creepy in the manner of how it has the potential to inspire violent acts by the more gun crazy of the whackjob RW upon innocent US citizens who voted for Obama, or may be suspected to have voted for BHO, as some of the comments below that video indicated. Images and words of RW hate and bigotry, as uploaded on YouTube during and after the elections won't help them win any more fanatic extremist voters to their side, since they already have cornered the market.
    Last edited by Flanders; June-09-09 at 06:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeofAletall View Post
    Christ almighty you are delusional are you not? Take a good look at your Obamazoids and their comparison to der Leader.

    How do people not see themselves for what they truly are. Are you this blind?

    I mean really.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvP0ArKIGY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQK9QpmRjY0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eABrWdwUCBg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXBbCn2K7bE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVDBtHeKIEM

    I could go on and on posting uncanny similiarities between der Fuher Obmam and other monsters in this world past and present but it is futile.

    You zombies are through. Your brains are mush .
    What a load of fascist gas bag tripe.

    Where were you when the Bush Crime Family was stripping us of our rights? Illegally wiretapping us, recording our phone calls and computer keystrokes? Killing our boys for an illegal oil war in Iraq?

    You people screwed this country into the ground, and raped the treasury on the way out the door.

    Just another pack of braindead automatons goosestepping to the dittohead drumbeat. Oh, and washing it down with fascist flavored KoolAid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    When was that? He says that he is right only 99% of the time.
    he is wrong virtually every time he opens his mouth. seriously. take nearly any statement he makes and research it -- you will find it is either an outright lie or factually deficient

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    I would think I'm right 99% of the time too if I was poppin Oxycontins all day.

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    ccbatson Guest

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    You are making the claim Rb...it for you to prove.

    Maybe so Blarf, but would you be accurate as he is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarf View Post
    I would think I'm right 99% of the time too if I was poppin Oxycontins all day.
    I'd be asleep 99% of the time is I was popping Oxycotins all day!

    Although post surgery, while on oxy, my cat talked to me. Appropriately, it was while I was watching a Grateful Dead concert DVD.

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    Does that make Rush's accomplishments even more admirable?

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    Rush lives by the old adage "you can fool some of the people some of the time, and I can fool my legions of listeners all the time"

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    tell me again how hate radio is not influencing small segments of radicals...increasing fear and hate can push someone over the edge...

    whether it is a man in Arkansas or a crazy gun man in the Capital..we don't know what is going to push them into a rage..but for some it could reallybe listening to these hate filled media types- who love to fuel the flames of fear and hate..then hind behind the admendments...

    while not everyone who listens to Rush, Beck or Anarchists etal..run out and kill someone...but listening to how the "liberals" are terrorists, or abortion Doctors are killing babies with glee or all ____fill in the blanks-___-people; are doing this or that feed sinto the instability and lack of civility that feeds the seperatist and dividers...

    People like Beck and the likes like to scare and play to theleast comon denominator..they are truly the ones dividing the country..not the Obama's they rally against. These people would pee their pants if they had to confront half the people they rally against...

    itis time to heal and bring to gether..divided we fall united we stand...folks

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibran View Post
    tell me again how hate radio is not influencing small segments of radicals...increasing fear and hate can push someone over the edge...

    whether it is a man in Arkansas or a crazy gun man in the Capital..we don't know what is going to push them into a rage..but for some it could reallybe listening to these hate filled media types- who love to fuel the flames of fear and hate..then hind behind the admendments...

    while not everyone who listens to Rush, Beck or Anarchists etal..run out and kill someone...but listening to how the "liberals" are terrorists, or abortion Doctors are killing babies with glee or all ____fill in the blanks-___-people; are doing this or that feed sinto the instability and lack of civility that feeds the seperatist and dividers...

    People like Beck and the likes like to scare and play to theleast comon denominator..they are truly the ones dividing the country..not the Obama's they rally against. These people would pee their pants if they had to confront half the people they rally against...

    itis time to heal and bring to gether..divided we fall united we stand...folks
    And these are the national broadcasts. Driving through West Virginia recently, I gave my music a rest and listened to the local talk radio. Those people went about three steps *beyond* what hate radio espouses. Hate was not too strong of a word--hate for those who weren't "christian", hate for those who were not of European descent, and a special kind of hate for our president who, according to the callers and the host, fell under both categories.

    It's hard to listen to these programs. The truth doesn't hurt [[it's barely spoken on those types of shows)--deliberate falsehoods and pure hate does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    You are making the claim Rb...it for you to prove.

    Maybe so Blarf, but would you be accurate as he is?
    I would say the burden of proof fails onto your shoulders, as you are the one claiming he is so accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alsodave View Post
    I'd be asleep 99% of the time is I was popping Oxycotins all day!

    Although post surgery, while on oxy, my cat talked to me. Appropriately, it was while I was watching a Grateful Dead concert DVD.
    Was it a Grateful Dead concert, or Rush Limbaugh's show?

    Oh, that's right, we're just grateful Rush is talking to the dead.

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    No...read again, I said HE [[Rush) claims to be 99% accurate), not me.

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    Lorax Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    No...read again, I said HE [[Rush) claims to be 99% accurate), not me.
    And you would continue to listen to someone who is obviously pathological?

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    ccbatson Guest

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    He is an entertainer, THINK about the content of what he is saying as if you didn't know the source and do so in it's full and proper context, then arrive at a conclusion.

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    Lorax Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    He is an entertainer, THINK about the content of what he is saying as if you didn't know the source and do so in it's full and proper context, then arrive at a conclusion.
    If I want entertainment, I centainly wouldn't go so low-rent as to listen to this drug addled gas bag.

    Guess we have different standards of entertainment.

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    Me and the biggest audience, by far, in the media that he has chosen to work in.

    Again, think about the content if you would like to stimulate meaningful thought and grow.

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