Obama dropping rapidly in polls.

[elganned]

So your sylogism goes something like this:

All Liberal socialists are enemies of liberty.
All Democrats are liberal socialists.
Ergo, All Democrats are enemies of liberty.

Is that about it? Looks ridiculous on its face. Several assumptions necessary to the conclusion have not been established or demonstrated [[except in your own mind, evidently).

[oladub]

All Liberal socialists are enemies of liberty.
All Democrats are liberal socialists.
Ergo, All Democrats are enemies of liberty.

elganned, You may have gotten lines one and two mixed up. Aren't you instead trying to say,
"All Democrats are liberal socialists.
All Liberal socialists are enemies of liberty.
Ergo, All Democrats are enemies of liberty."

I would disagree with the statement because 'all' is a little too broad. I would prefer 'all' to be replaced with either 'many' or 'most'. Democrats often are more protective of certain civil and social liberties than Republicans. However, in matters of economic freedom, Democrats fall short with some exceptions including Marcy Kaptur and Alan Grayson and in some ways Dennis Kucinich. Many Republicans also fall short with regards to protecting economic liberties.

[mjs]

Obama's fortunes don't depend on GM or Chrysler- they were given their chance to pull out, if they can't, at least he tried, and Obama's no worse the wear for it.

If Wall Street was allowed to go belly up, that would have been a good move. Nationalize the banks, folks, and force lending again. This is the only way we're going to get out of this.

You properly understand the problem, but go too far with the solution. GM and big banking have created a common problem. They both have a long history of manipulating what I've been told is a government for the people so they can have market share they don't deserve which leads to unnaturally concentrated markets. In the end, these markets always shortchange all the market participants, eventually collapse, and then leave devastation in their wake.

There's no need to nationalize banking. Its obvious that would only further concentrate the market and lead to big bank execs running it with government titles. Look at Geithner and his cronies. Allowing the big banks to collapse would send us back to where we were for decades; many local banks that do right by their community. If you want to weaken mega-corporations, weaken federal authority by virtually taking them out of banking regulation all together. Give power back to the states and you'll break the mega-corporations bribery model. If the Feds actually want to do something, they can go back to the days when anti-trust existed.

[Papasito]

Obama was exciting when he said things and people believed him.

Then they realized he was just another politician who lies.

[ccbatson]

He is much worse than other politicians.