Report: Secret Service strained to protect Obama

**exdetroiter** · October-21-09, 01:59 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts950

I think if Obama were to be assasinated, America would see a civil war like never before.

**Danny** · October-21-09, 02:24 PM

Oh YES! There would be 'RACIAL EXPLOSION' like America have never seen before since the assassination of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King combine. The while United States of America will look like the Turner Diaries if Obama was assassinated.

After John F. Kennedy was shot dead, white American's didn't race riot in their cities, destroying everything in site. But if JFK was shot dead instantly by a black man, than the race riots will begin.

If Obama was shot dead, the Second American Civil War will begin.

If Obama was shot dead by Islamic facist terrorist organization then it will be WAR against the Nation of Islam.

If Obama was shot dead by Communist Chinese, then it would be a WORLD WAR III!

**Detroitej72** · October-21-09, 03:17 PM

Obama has much to fear, as the conservatives encourage hate and violence against anyone who doesn't drink their kool aid. We've seen them at work in the likes of Oklahoma City, and the Atlanta Olympics.

This is one group of terrorists who should be permanently silenced and jailed for life.

**Johnlodge** · October-21-09, 03:50 PM

Reporting on the various weaknesses of the secret service and where they intend to shift resources to and from seems as intelligent as reporting troop movements during a war.

**Papasito** · October-21-09, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Detroitej72

Obama has much to fear, as the conservatives encourage hate and violence against anyone who doesn't drink their kool aid. We've seen them at work in the likes of Oklahoma City, and the Atlanta Olympics.

This is one group of terrorists who should be permanently silenced and jailed for life.

Jail and silence the entire Republican Party because of paranoid fringe phobia?

Then why not silence and jail all Muslims in America because of a few fringe nut jobs?

Do you see how little sense you are making?
Absolutely rediculous.

**Detroit Stylin** · October-21-09, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Johnlodge

Reporting on the various weaknesses of the secret service and where they intend to shift resources to and from seems as intelligent as reporting troop movements during a war.

Maybe there is a method to someone's madness [[or true underlying intentions)....

Rideron · October-22-09, 05:46 AM

Being President makes you a target for crazies of all stripes. If thats a problem for ya, don't run for President.

**elganned** · October-22-09, 06:22 AM

[sarcasm]Danny, thanks for bringing race into it.[/sarcasm]

Papasito, you are right. There is no way to stop the preaching of hate except by countering it with preaching tolerance. If you jailed the entire Republican party, the hydra would just grow another head.

Rideron has the most cogent observation. Like Truman said, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

**ejames01** · October-22-09, 07:00 AM

Two things would stop all of this nonsense:

1. The secret service should fine people that criticize the President on internet forums.
2. People that actually make threats should be executed by firing squad.

**Jman** · October-22-09, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by ejames01

Two things would stop all of this nonsense:

1. The secret service should fine people that criticize the President on internet forums.
2. People that actually make threats should be executed by firing squad.

If we had done that during the Bush era, the budget would be balanced and there would be no increase in the general population.

**rb336** · October-22-09, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by ejames01

Two things would stop all of this nonsense:

1. The secret service should fine people that criticize the President on internet forums.
2. People that actually make threats should be executed by firing squad.

1 is one of the main reasons we are not part of the British Commonwealth

2 yes, people who make threats against the president should be detained

3 people who out CIA agents should be tried for treason, and if convicted, executed . this means you, Dick Cheney

ccbatson · October-22-09, 11:23 AM

This thread needs to be renamed "liberal fear mongering"

**rb336** · October-22-09, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by ccbatson

This thread needs to be renamed "liberal fear mongering"

obviously you do not understand the term "fear mongering"

ccbatson · October-22-09, 11:29 AM

Wrong information [[that Obama is at more risk than any other President, or that the Secret Service is any less capable of doing their job), erroneously raising the specter of danger that isn't there, and pointing to an agenda for gaining power or money by the fictional perpetrators......that is what this is, and that is fear mongering.

**elganned** · October-22-09, 02:22 PM

You mean like spreading lies about "death panels" and that people will lose their current coverage under any proposed healthcare reform, or that Obama plans to turn the US into a Soviet-style collectivist enconomy? That kind of fear mongering?

Funny how you think fear mongering is excusable when done by conservatives but inexcusable when done by "liberals" [[as you use the term).

And that which you claim is "wrong information" is in fact correct according to the article, at least to a limited degree: Threats are up 400% over GWB [[=Obama is at more risk, maybe not than "any other president", but certainly more than his immediate predecessors), and the Secret Service is trying to do more while operating under budget constraints [[= "less competent" in the sense of not having the proper resources to adequately do the job they've been set). Unless of course you have different information which refutes the facts set out in the article...?

So your conclusion is shown to be based on erroneous assumptions--yet again.

**MCP-001** · October-22-09, 02:28 PM

They could always go out on less "date nights"

Michelle can quit taking the SS out on shopping excursions to the corner farmer's market to get one ingredient for dinner.

Just a thought.

**elganned** · October-22-09, 02:34 PM

What--you want to deny the POTUS the benefits of connubial bliss? For shame!

They could also hire Blackwater [[sorry, I forgot their current alias) to act as his private security force. Maybe a few dozen dead civilians in an intersection would serve as an object lesson to the rest of the crazies.

**rb336** · October-22-09, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by ccbatson

Wrong information [[that Obama is at more risk than any other President, or that the Secret Service is any less capable of doing their job), erroneously raising the specter of danger that isn't there, and pointing to an agenda for gaining power or money by the fictional perpetrators......that is what this is, and that is fear mongering.

wrong, wrong, wrong. it does not apply in this case [[besides, it is the Secret Service that is making what you call "false statements). Fear mongering is a means of frightening the public to gain a political end, like "death panels" and the whole republican response to health care reform. there is no political end to the factual comments made by SecServ personel. There is PLENTY of reason to believe, in fact, that they are downplaying threats on this president's life

Retroit · October-22-09, 05:52 PM

Kind of ironic that the organization that was created to prevent the creation of worthless money is now responsible for protecting the man who is making money worthless.

Lorax · October-22-09, 05:58 PM

Sorry, Bush is the one who made money worthless, and did it in 8 years no less.

Has anyone forgotten during the election season last year that a noose was discovered hanging in a stairwell at the Secret Service's Washington headquarters?

Don't tell me the Tushies put loyal footsoldiers in those jobs before they left office. Hopefully most have been switched out at this point.

**Zacha341** · October-22-09, 07:00 PM

And those who criticize on any level should be flogged!

Originally Posted by ejames01

Two things would stop all of this nonsense:

1. The secret service should fine people that criticize the President on internet forums.
2. People that actually make threats should be executed by firing squad.

**Zacha341** · October-22-09, 07:10 PM

Yes, the Bush era was spend, spend well beyond reason-got that. And the Obama era "continues" to spend, spend where they should not, if for no other reason than to stop the spend-fest the conservatives started... But no -- instead spending is higher! Rationale: it is "our turn" spending you'll like with a bit of redistribution thrown in to get back at those rich folks... or whom the definition [[ala annual income) just keeps getting lower and lower.... Hmmm......

Originally Posted by Lorax

Sorry, Bush is the one who made money worthless, and did it in 8 years no less.

Has anyone forgotten during the election season last year that a noose was discovered hanging in a stairwell at the Secret Service's Washington headquarters?

Don't tell me the Tushies put loyal footsoldiers in those jobs before they left office. Hopefully most have been switched out at this point.

**elganned** · October-22-09, 08:53 PM

Well, in all fairness spending first went "over the top" under Reagan, and he didn't even have a financial crisis or incipient depression as an excuse.

At least Obama has the [[small) saving grace of having sent the nation deep into the red trying to save his own country instead of launching military adventures halfway around the world to the tune of $1-2billion a month.

ccbatson · October-22-09, 11:52 PM

The money isn't yet worthless....coming soon in round 2 all under and as a result of Obama.

**oladub** · October-23-09, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by elganned

Well, in all fairness spending first went "over the top" under Reagan, and he didn't even have a financial crisis or incipient depression as an excuse.

At least Obama has the [[small) saving grace of having sent the nation deep into the red trying to save his own country instead of launching military adventures halfway around the world to the tune of $1-2billion a month.

How many troops has Obama removed from Iraq so far? He has added 20,000 to Afghanistan and the Telegraph claims he is sending in another 45,000 while expanding the bombing of Pakistani villages. By my measures, the economy continues to go down. He might be trying to save his country but putting the country further into debt to resolve the problem of to much debt has, so far, not worked. For all of that, I think Obama is an improvement, of sorts, over Bush.