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    Default More Homeland INsecurity Idiocy

    So, while it seems we've got all the money available to install video cameras at EVERY major intersection in the country, including all Interstate freeways...the folks running our federal lockdown plans have seen fit to show their hand before it is played.


    They denied NYC funding for radiological sensors around the perimeter of town.



    So, for those of you keeping box score at home, can you guess WHICH type of False Flag Operation is going to hit us next?

    I'll give you a hint, when you see mushroom clouds on the TV news, you won't be watching some Hollywood movie.


    They were delayed slightly when those errant nukes flying over the country were revealed a few years back...but it is still coming. Any day now...

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    Lorax Guest

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    Funny you should mention cameras.

    We have them mounted to towers here in florida that resemble, and I swear I'm not making this up, but look like the guard towers you see in a prision yard or a Nazi death camp. Nearly the same design.

    They are designed to catch speeders, capture their license plate, and mail them a ticket.

    Another municipal way to squeeze revenue out of the individual. They are being challenged legally here, but we'll see if they actually go away.

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    As the Patriot act comes up for renewal, and as these measures have not been eliminated under the Obama administration, doesn't that mean that Obama approves of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    As the Patriot act comes up for renewal, and as these measures have not been eliminated under the Obama administration, doesn't that mean that Obama approves of them?
    yet more proof that he is pretty far to the right of the progressives in the democratic party, who, for the most part, are still to the right of Eisenhower

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    Lorax Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    As the Patriot act comes up for renewal, and as these measures have not been eliminated under the Obama administration, doesn't that mean that Obama approves of them?
    Yes, it does.

    It' a de facto acceptance of the legitimacy of the Tush fascist policies.

    The Iraq/Afghan issue needed to be addressed his first week in office- out by the end of this year, generals, make it happen.

    This would have solidified the wars as George Bush's only. Now they are Obama's.

    Health care should have been done without Rethuglican "support" from the get go. Ram it though, just as they would have done, and did do with their agenda when they had a majority.

    Repeal the expanded Imperial presidential powers Tush approved of, including the so-called Patriot Act- dont' wait for it's renewal.

    Repeal the Tush tax cuts.

    Repeal "don't ask, don't tell"

    Repeal the "defense of marriage act"

    All of this could have been done by now, and hasn't.

    That's why I let everyone know that Obama wasn't my candidate, Dennis Kucinich was, but sadly, with our current political system, someone who doesn't fit the physical stature can't measure up, so to speak, regardless of how great a human being they are.

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    ... when you see mushroom clouds on the TV news ...
    In the article they seem more concerned about dirty bombs than true nukes. Although I suppose even a conventional bomb could be made to form a mushroom vortex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post
    In the article they seem more concerned about dirty bombs than true nukes. Although I suppose even a conventional bomb could be made to form a mushroom vortex.
    all bombs can. i've seen mushroom clouds from m-80s

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    They talk of dirty bombs because they DON'T then have to say nuclear.

    You remember how much trouble the last puppet had saying that word.


    If the next False Flag is to have the numbing effect that they need to inflict, to force the populace to react blindly, it NEEDS to take out millions at once, not 3,000 or so. They will be trying to influence the world, not just US citizens.


    When those five or six bombs were flown over US airspace, after being declared inert or defused while they were live and armed and in launch position...I knew something had been laid bare and a plan derailed. Those were not shipped by mistake, they were being shipped above Top Secret clearance [[all nuclear stuff must be, by their very nature), but someone had the audacity to stick their necks out and make it public.

    Here is one of the first things that came up on a google search:

    http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/?q=node/50

    Here is a more official version of the story:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295797,00.html



    Before all you right-wing war-mongering apologists go off against unofficial sources of news, remember that General Michael Wynne said that the government has the ability to control the news. [[9/12/2006)

    Oddly, HE was the one over this operation as well.


    Same guy who wants so badly to play with the crowd-control EM beam weapon.


    Co-incidence? I think not.

    Cheers, anyways!
    Last edited by Gannon; October-12-09 at 01:34 PM.

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    And yeah, I know that Wynne is no longer Secretary of the Air Force, he resigned a year and a half ago.

    I'm sure his replacement is a similar fellow, wouldn't BE in that position if that were not the case.


    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannon View Post
    And yeah, I know that Wynne is no longer Secretary of the Air Force, he resigned a year and a half ago.

    I'm sure his replacement is a similar fellow, wouldn't BE in that position if that were not the case.


    Cheers
    Texas has those cameras as well. I work for one of the big 3 and my employer has those cameras surrounding the streets within a four mile radius. I don't have a problem with it because its a safety precaution as far as I am concerned. As long as they aren't inside of my home, why should I care?

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    You will care when those same cameras are used to make SURE you stay at home.

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    I'm telling you, they've gone up EVERYWHERE. The net is in place now for a totalitarian takeover. It is only a matter of time.

    Just think of the thread on that unused prison in Montana. Think about that one. In a country where prison space is at a premium, one gets built and unused...then a division of Blackwater Security steps in and declares they're running the place?!

    And the stories about human-handling pens built by Kellog, Brown, and Root, the KBR subsidiary of Haliburton...nah...too much to handle. They are planning something big.


    HERE? I think anyone who disagrees with them will merely be sent down underground...where those so-called flood-control caverns were built under Birmingham and now Dearborn. There are probably more, those are the only two I've seen built, the one up in B'ham always gave me chills. More than what it appears to be...

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    ccbatson Guest

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    Authoritarian liberal progressive [[liberal fascism) Rb....finally waking up to that reality about Obama are you? About time.

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    No, Cc, and I'll say this every time you bring it up, so it will become as tedious as the stuff I used to have to 'remind' old, dear Karl about, ad nauseum.


    It was blatantly begun by the LAST puppet, the man known as W to your camp, or to the rest of polite society as George W. Bush.

    It all was started after men 'under' him forced the nation to war by staging the False Flag Operation known as 9/11.

    We then opened up this current historical duration of decline of the empire.

    Barack Obama has merely taken the precedent and carried it forward for the real powers that apparently control the country...again, what we call the 'Shadow Government'.


    He is the same as the last guy, only slightly darker and easier to understand.

    But otherwise indistinguishable...how you get to railing against HIM without admitting the last fellow was JUST AS BAD, I have no idea.


    You claim to be logical...this is obviously NOT the case.


    Open your damn eyes and see the bigger picture, and stop all this damned divide-and-conquer bullshit you keep slinging around. It is very tiring.

    Sincerely,
    John

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    ccbatson Guest

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    I have repeatedly acknowledged what I see/saw as faults of GWB...and they are/were many. However, Obama is a much greater and proximate threat to our libertry with his liberal socialist fascist agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    I have repeatedly acknowledged what I see/saw as faults of GWB...and they are/were many. However, Obama is a much greater and proximate threat to our libertry with his liberal socialist fascist agenda.
    Which one is it? Since liberal and fascist are as different as black and white- totally opposite meanings. So, you fail yet again in the continual denial of the dictionary definition of fascism, WHICH YOU POSTED. Do I need to re-post your screed here?

    Believe me, I have it here, wrapped like a gift, I stroke it each night as the prize trophy it is. BUT I LOVE TO SHARE, so I have no problem sharing it again , and again, and again.

    GWB's agenda was fascist, period. Nothing too complicated there.

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    ccbatson Guest

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    Here is a newer piece of evidence in support of liberal fascism Obama style...Mandatory volunteerism/service as a form of forced nationalism the vehicle being the recent monopolistic takeover of student loans.

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    Lorax Guest

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    Show me the "mandatory" volunteerism sweeping the nation in your paranoid fantasty.

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    ccbatson Guest

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    Stay tuned, it is beginning to form as we speak. Step one, lock out all banks funding student loans other than the government.

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    Lorax Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Stay tuned, it is beginning to form as we speak. Step one, lock out all banks funding student loans other than the government.
    Great idea, long past due.

    Why should the people have to deal with the middleman markup?

    Lose private enterprise anywhere the government can lend at lower interest rates

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    ccbatson Guest

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    A coercive government monopoly where they take control of future well trained young participants in the workforce....control the means of production=Liberal Socialist Fascism.

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    Lorax Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    A coercive government monopoly where they take control of future well trained young participants in the workforce....control the means of production=Liberal Socialist Fascism.
    Now education is a form of production? Where did this come from?

    If we were as advanced as a society as most of socially democratized Europe is, our kids would have a free university education as well.

    What's wrong with educating our kids in a public way? Nothing.

    I would venture to say you had a public education, as did I, unless you were born with a silver pitchfork in your mouth.

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    ccbatson Guest

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    Education and training lead to productive careers in the vast majority of cases...you didn't know that Lorax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    A coercive government monopoly where they take control of future well trained young participants in the workforce....control the means of production=Liberal Socialist Fascism.
    wow -- a triple oxymoron!

    and yet again bats displays his ignorance of all things politico-economic

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