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  1. #101

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    Hah. Another good reason for work to make my own coffee or green tea in a thermos daily!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post
    And if the Posse Comitatus Act becomes violable regardless, what then remains to deter general strikes?

    Imagine the preposterous image of someone brewing coffee under duress. LOL!

  2. #102

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    ... Another good reason for work to make my own coffee or green tea in a thermos daily!
    AFAIK both are healthy.

    P.S. I linked Thoreau's essay as a reminder that civil disobedience differs from civil disorder. Often, governments create the latter when citizens engage in the former.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Whalley View Post
    ... I linked Thoreau's essay as a reminder that civil disobedience differs from civil disorder. Often, governments create the latter when citizens engage in the former.
    Ah yes. That rarely-acknowledged unwritten escape clause imagined to exist in that little contract we call The Constitution.

  4. #104

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    "Ah yes. That rarely-acknowledged unwritten escape clause imagined to exist in that little contract we call The Constitution."

    And I'm still lookin' for that "separation of church and state" statement in the First Amendment

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    Quote Originally Posted by CassTechGrad View Post
    ..."separation of church and state" statement in the First Amendment
    They may have taught Civics at Cass Tech???

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    Latest news as of 5-14-2025: More than 1,000 Starbucks baristas at 75 U.S. stores have gone on strike to protest a new company dress code which requires a solid black shirt and khaki, black or blue denim bottoms. Starbucks said it would give everyone two free black T-shirts.

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  7. #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by CassTechGrad View Post
    Starbucks said it would give everyone two free black T-shirts.


    Americans don't like being told what to wear. That went out with Mao suits, Hitler brown shirts, Taliban burkas, etc.

  8. #108

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Whalley View Post
    They may have taught Civics at Cass Tech???
    [Just in case you weren't being sarcastic, hard to tell in type.]

    Those words don't exist in any official document anywhere.

  9. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    Those words don't exist in any official document anywhere.
    What's your point? You slept in school, too?

  10. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Whalley View Post
    What's your point? You slept in school, too?
    You're kidding right?

  11. #111

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    You're kidding right?
    No, usually they teach it in school. No official document forces us to suffer fools gladly.

  12. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Whalley View Post
    No, usually they teach it in school. No official document forces us to suffer fools gladly.
    FWIW, "Separation of church and state" does not exist anywhere in American government. PERIOD!

    If you learned in school that it did, you went to a terrible school.


    It's origins are instead from a letter Jefferson wrote, replying to a church in 1802 explaining why he was unwilling to do something they had apparently asked of him.


    What the Constitution DOES say is that the government cannot ESTABLISH a religion. I.E. they can't declare an official religion [like English kings had done], and tell YOU what religion YOU must follow.

    This is known as the establishment clause, and not the separation of church & state clause.
    Last edited by Rocket; May-16-25 at 02:18 PM.

  13. #113

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    FWIW, "Separation of church and state" does not exist anywhere in American government. PERIOD!

    If you learned in school that it did, you went to a terrible school.


    It's origins are instead from a letter Jefferson wrote, replying to a church in 1802 explaining why he was unwilling to do something they had apparently asked of him.


    What the Constitution DOES say is that the government cannot ESTABLISH a religion. I.E. they can't declare an official religion [like English kings had done], and tell YOU what religion YOU must follow.

    This is known as the establishment clause, and not the separation of church & state clause.
    LOL

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