AFAIK both are healthy.
P.S. I linked Thoreau's essay as a reminder that civil disobedience differs from civil disorder. Often, governments create the latter when citizens engage in the former.
Ah yes. That rarely-acknowledged unwritten escape clause imagined to exist in that little contract we call The Constitution.![]()
"Ah yes. That rarely-acknowledged unwritten escape clause imagined to exist in that little contract we call The Constitution."
And I'm still lookin' for that "separation of church and state" statement in the First Amendment
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FWIW, "Separation of church and state" does not exist anywhere in American government. PERIOD!
If you learned in school that it did, you went to a terrible school.
It's origins are instead from a letter Jefferson wrote, replying to a church in 1802 explaining why he was unwilling to do something they had apparently asked of him.
What the Constitution DOES say is that the government cannot ESTABLISH a religion. I.E. they can't declare an official religion [like English kings had done], and tell YOU what religion YOU must follow.
This is known as the establishment clause, and not the separation of church & state clause.
Last edited by Rocket; May-16-25 at 02:18 PM.
LOLFWIW, "Separation of church and state" does not exist anywhere in American government. PERIOD!
If you learned in school that it did, you went to a terrible school.
It's origins are instead from a letter Jefferson wrote, replying to a church in 1802 explaining why he was unwilling to do something they had apparently asked of him.
What the Constitution DOES say is that the government cannot ESTABLISH a religion. I.E. they can't declare an official religion [like English kings had done], and tell YOU what religion YOU must follow.
This is known as the establishment clause, and not the separation of church & state clause.![]()
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