Freeps Obsession with Lions Fans Trash

**K-slice** · September-13-24, 09:58 AM

Two storis now in the last week? Well, one story, then a bunch of follow-up letters dressed up like a story. Are the messes left by fans in parking lots more of an issue than the messes left every day all over the city by residents?

The trashbags thrown out windows on every street criss-crossing the city aren't tossed by suburbanites. The litter strewn about the new, beautiful, Riverside Park [[if you haven't witnessed this come down on a summer weekend and do so, its unreal) or Belle Isle certainly isn't from suburbanites. The chicken bone filled styrofoam food containers left on every corner of downtown and midtown aren't left by sports fans...

I despise littering, it makes my blood boil seeing it first hand, but if the Freep wants to run a story or two about WHO the culprits are, they need to point that finger squarley at the Detroit citizenry.

If Detroit wants outsiders respect, then we who live here need to start respecting it.

**K-slice** · September-13-24, 09:59 AM

In case you didnt see the stories:

https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/...r/75059574007/

https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/...t/75189480007/

**southen** · September-13-24, 11:09 AM

The sports fans that are largely from the suburbs have been trashing downtown and the adjacent areas for decades. There has never been any respect for the city for those that come down for an event like Opening Day or for Lions games. I live in a downtown adjacent neighborhood and every Sunday/Monday my neighborhood is trashed and it certainly wasn't that way prior to the game.

Comparing how people on the lower rungs of the economic ladder treat a place to those spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on entertainment seems a bit off to me. Neither group should be littering, but one group primarily comes to town, trashes their area, then leaves. That is worth noting and trying to change.

**djtomt** · September-13-24, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by K-slice

Two storis now in the last week? Well, one story, then a bunch of follow-up letters dressed up like a story. Are the messes left by fans in parking lots more of an issue than the messes left every day all over the city by residents?

The trashbags thrown out windows on every street criss-crossing the city aren't tossed by suburbanites. The litter strewn about the new, beautiful, Riverside Park [[if you haven't witnessed this come down on a summer weekend and do so, its unreal) or Belle Isle certainly isn't from suburbanites. The chicken bone filled styrofoam food containers left on every corner of downtown and midtown aren't left by sports fans...

I despise littering, it makes my blood boil seeing it first hand, but if the Freep wants to run a story or two about WHO the culprits are, they need to point that finger squarley at the Detroit citizenry.

If Detroit wants outsiders respect, then we who live here need to start respecting it.

All for clicks. That's it. There is no redeeming value in any of these "articles", "letters" or "opinion pieces". More divisive "journalism" to get clicks. It's irresponsible, but us vs them sells unfortunately. Not only that, on the scale of problems, this might be the most minor one. If not, it's close.

Reality of having an event driven downtown: when/wherever a large number of people gather, there will be trash. Unavoidable. As a Detroit resident, I will take the economic boost every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Trash is a cost of doing business.

**gnome** · September-13-24, 09:31 PM

I can’t believe sensitive men are whining because the free press is asking you to clean up after yourselves.

”I can leave shit around because Detroiters do the same.” Is tiny peen thinking. It ain’t that difficult. Clean up after yourself.

**Cincinnati_Kid** · September-14-24, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

I can’t believe sensitive men are whining because the free press is asking you to clean up after yourselves.

”I can leave shit around because Detroiters do the same.” Is tiny peen thinking. It ain’t that difficult. Clean up after yourself.

Agreed. I'm pretty sure there are trash recepticles all over the city. Have we become that lazy to simply find one, and despose of your garbage? I have seen people throw their fast food bags out the window in a moving vehicle. And the suburbanites are just as culpable as the people who live in Detroit. It's ridiculous.

**K-slice** · September-15-24, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

I can’t believe sensitive men are whining because the free press is asking you to clean up after yourselves.

”I can leave shit around because Detroiters do the same.” Is tiny peen thinking. It ain’t that difficult. Clean up after yourself.

The point went right over your head.

**gnome** · September-16-24, 08:47 AM

I believe the point was, “economic benefit trumps trash”. Visitors bring money and leave trash and the city should be grateful for the positive economic gain.

silly Me. Gosh, I think you can have both. All that is required is to bend a knee and pick up what you’ve dropped.

**Zacha341** · September-16-24, 10:28 AM

^ I hear that G. Detroit can be a dirty city in areas, worse in NY or course. Other cities and states I've traveled such as parts of Georgia trash on the freeways and sidewalks is FAR less. I saw someone sail a fast food container out of their car with little care. What goes thru the mind to do this?

So some visiting may do trash nonchalance as a justification to add the trash to the piles, if not literally before them, to the setting. Justification seems to be a big factor with so much that tears down. Not to build up I've noted.

**DeLemur** · September-16-24, 11:15 AM

Completely agree, albeit that visitors seem to follow the customary resident stance of throwing trash wherever. Residents though the main culprit.

Originally Posted by K-slice

Two storis now in the last week? Well, one story, then a bunch of follow-up letters dressed up like a story. Are the messes left by fans in parking lots more of an issue than the messes left every day all over the city by residents?

The trashbags thrown out windows on every street criss-crossing the city aren't tossed by suburbanites. The litter strewn about the new, beautiful, Riverside Park [[if you haven't witnessed this come down on a summer weekend and do so, its unreal) or Belle Isle certainly isn't from suburbanites. The chicken bone filled styrofoam food containers left on every corner of downtown and midtown aren't left by sports fans...

I despise littering, it makes my blood boil seeing it first hand, but if the Freep wants to run a story or two about WHO the culprits are, they need to point that finger squarley at the Detroit citizenry.

If Detroit wants outsiders respect, then we who live here need to start respecting it.