What are "Block Parties", and Why are they so Dangerous?

[K-slice]

In light of the tragedy this weekend, and the earlier news reports this summer about out of control "block parties", I feel as if I don't have an understanding about what these events are.

My grandparents and their neighbors in southern Livonia always had "block parties", the city would issue a permit for the street to be blocked off. Neighbors would come out and grill in the road, kids would play together in the yards and closed down street. I remember them as fun, tranquil, if not boring [[when I went as a teenager) affairs.

What am I missing here?

[401don]

In light of the tragedy this weekend, and the earlier news reports this summer about out of control "block parties", I feel as if I don't have an understanding about what these events are.

My grandparents and their neighbors in southern Livonia always had "block parties", the city would issue a permit for the street to be blocked off. Neighbors would come out and grill in the road, kids would play together in the yards and closed down street. I remember them as fun, tranquil, if not boring [[when I went as a teenager) affairs.

What am I missing here?

Isn't it kind of obvious? Livonia isn't exactly the hood and you put a bunch of random people together, many of whom are packing, and there's a good chance someone with a beef will show up. Either that or they get the smallest patty and feel disrespected.

[Danny]

Block parties is not so dangerous if you have security.

[stasu1213]

Not only security will make block parties safer; they have to be permitted by the city and agreed upon by residents. It have to be legally organized. I understand that the shooter[[s) are or is still at large. The public don't know if this was a result from a beef, rival gangs, or some nut who just wanted to take an opportunity to be an active shooter. The police being there could also be in danger for a shooter maybe crazy enough to ambush them as they try to break up these parties.

[mwilbert]

In light of the tragedy this weekend, and the earlier news reports this summer about out of control "block parties", I feel as if I don't have an understanding about what these events are.

My grandparents and their neighbors in southern Livonia always had "block parties", the city would issue a permit for the street to be blocked off. Neighbors would come out and grill in the road, kids would play together in the yards and closed down street. I remember them as fun, tranquil, if not boring [[when I went as a teenager) affairs.

What am I missing here?

Aside from what other people said, did your block parties run until 2:30AM? I'm guessing not. In my neighborhood in Detroit the legally-permitted block parties seem to mostly be over by 10:30/11 at the latest. My impression is that the later stuff goes, the more questionable the behavior gets.

[softailrider]

DPD in there infinite wisdom has decided to charge the owners of the property if the "block party's" get out of hand - like 21 people getting shot. If you have a rental house, like 50% of the city you would be responsible for your tenant throwing a party? You supposed to spend your life holding your renters hand? Makes no sense to me at all.

Also, DPD said they found a Glock with a full auto switch. Color me very skeptical on that one. Not too many people could control a full auto Glock unless they are a Navy Seal or Israel Mossad or something.

[ABetterDetroit]

In light of the tragedy this weekend, and the earlier news reports this summer about out of control "block parties", I feel as if I don't have an understanding about what these events are.

My grandparents and their neighbors in southern Livonia always had "block parties", the city would issue a permit for the street to be blocked off. Neighbors would come out and grill in the road, kids would play together in the yards and closed down street. I remember them as fun, tranquil, if not boring [[when I went as a teenager) affairs.

What am I missing here?

House parties with under age teens drinking grow very quickly via phone messaging and spill up and down the street in the city. These are not quite the family sponsored barbecues which you reference and are familiar with. Young people have congregated together in groups at night for generations. It Sucks that plentiful high capacity semi-automatic hand guns are poured into the mix of young men that can’t handle their hormones, emotions and pride when drinking. A bad combination with deadly results.

[ABetterDetroit]

Softtailrider… They are real and whether or not the user has “control” is irrelevant to the fact that people do end up dead because of them.

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/man...o-machine-guns

[stasu1213]

DPD in there infinite wisdom has decided to charge the owners of the property if the "block party's" get out of hand - like 21 people getting shot. If you have a rental house, like 50% of the city you would be responsible for your tenant throwing a party? You supposed to spend your life holding your renters hand? Makes no sense to me at all.

Also, DPD said they found a Glock with a full auto switch. Color me very skeptical on that one. Not too many people could control a full auto Glock unless they are a Navy Seal or Israel Mossad or something.

This probably was some type of lone wolf terrorist attack. That was why the incident was blacked out in the news until the next day

[ABetterDetroit]

This probably was some type of lone wolf terrorist attack. That was why the incident was blacked out in the news until the next day

Do not understand your “blacked out in the news” comment. This story was all over the news yesterday, the same day it happened at 2:30AM Sunday July 7, 2024

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...e/74320543007/

[Zacha341]

...What am I missing here?

Detroit authorities hold news conference after deadly block party shooting...

Crucial news conference detailing the origin - response to this weekends violent illegal 'popup' block party spree/ gathering unlike neighborhood block parties of the past [evidenced by firearms - severe levels of violence].

Detroit police chief, mayor Duggan, prosecutor Kim Worthy, community organization members, etc present [long but worth the review]:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4uVYJRqutY

[K-slice]

So these are just large out of control parties then, makes sense. I don't understand, guess the use of the word "block party" is just something the news or police tagged this event as. The way they're constantly using that phrase made me think it was something special. Fortunately I think half of my neighbors would be calling the police long before things got this bad. Hard to believe that no one called DPD to shut this down long before the rowdyness turned to violence.

[Lowell]

Livonia isn't exactly the hood and you put a bunch of random people together, many of whom are packing…

l wouldn’t be so sure about the packing part of that anymore.

[canuck]

l wouldn’t be so sure about the packing part of that anymore.

It only takes one guy to turn it into a "Glock" party.

[stasu1213]

I don’t understand. Was the shooter apprehended or not? I heard another report that the shooter is in stable condition with a bullet wound to the leg.

[Danny]

For now on if you want to start a block party used these 2 steps:

1. Get a city permit in order to shut down your street.

2. Tell your neighbors that we are shutting down this street for a block party. So you're going if you have other appointments, park your car someplace else until the party is over. No other cars is going into your street on that day.

3. Have security, security, security!!!

[canuck]

I don’t understand. Was the shooter apprehended or not? I heard another report that the shooter is in stable condition with a bullet womb to the leg.

I hope whatever was in the "womb" is alright.

[CassTechGrad]

Can't forget the Motor City [[dancing in the street)
All we need is music, sweet music
There'll be music everywhere
There'll be swingin', swayin' and records playing
And dancing in the street

[stasu1213]

Detroit authorities hold news conference after deadly block party shooting...

Crucial news conference detailing the origin - response to this weekends violent illegal 'popup' block party spree/ gathering unlike neighborhood block parties of the past [evidenced by firearms - severe levels of violence].

Detroit police chief, mayor Duggan, prosecutor Kim Worthy, community organization members, etc present [long but worth the review]:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4uVYJRqutY

The press conference could had been done without the raven of the guy with the baseball cap and others. Don't place blame if there's no reports of whom the shooters are. There were those on that podium who just wanted to make names for themselves

[Richard]

I am kinda surprised Detroit is late to the game with this,it started 2 years ago,people rent an AirBNB or find a vacant house that is in the market and have a party,not sure why they are calling it or even referring them to block parties because it underscores what they really are.

House parties that are marketed through social media where so many show up it spills out into the street and always ends up a mess no matter where they are .

[Richard]

The press conference could had been done without the raven of the guy with the baseball cap and others. Don't place blame if there's no reports of whom the shooters are. There were those on that podium who just wanted to make names for themselves

Did not look like a very diversified or inclusive city to me anyways.

[royce]

A few thoughts I want to share. First of all, this isn't a traditional block party as some have said. It's a "gathering." The young people spread the word on social media that everyone is going to show up on this sheet and this time. Most homeowners are sleeping when these young folks start showing up.

Secondly, I find it hard to believe that these young folks don't know who this gunman is. Who comes alone to one of these gatherings and brings a military style weapon unless this person has a beef with someone and knew that that person was going to be there? I think that it's more than one shooter, unless it's a skinhead, which I doubt.

Thirdly and finally, the news and the police are acting peculiar in the manner in which information is being doled out. Again, these young folks know who it is or at least can describe him or they to the police. I think in the wake of so many being shot, that the "no snitch" rule wouldn't apply here.

BTW, ever notice how the media never followed up on a bio of the Uvalde Texas shooter? This kinda has that same vibe to me, but it is still early in the investigation, so we'll just have to wait and see.

[stasu1213]

I hope whatever was in the "womb" is alright.

It was a typing error. I had meant to say that there were reports that the shooter was wounded in the leg

[stasu1213]

A few thoughts I want to share. First of all, this isn't a traditional block party as some have said. It's a "gathering." The young people spread the word on social media that everyone is going to show up on this sheet and this time. Most homeowners are sleeping when these young folks start showing up.

Secondly, I find it hard to believe that these young folks don't know who this gunman is. Who comes alone to one of these gatherings and brings a military style weapon unless this person has a beef with someone and knew that that person was going to be there? I think that it's more than one shooter, unless it's a skinhead, which I doubt.

Thirdly and finally, the news and the police are acting peculiar in the manner in which information is being doled out. Again, these young folks know who it is or at least can describe him or they to the police. I think in the wake of so many being shot, that the "no snitch" rule wouldn't apply here.

BTW, ever notice how the media never followed up on a bio of the Uvalde Texas shooter? This kinda has that same vibe to me, but it is still early in the investigation, so we'll just have to wait and see.

It could be possible that the participants didn't know who the shooter or shooters were. This could had been a lone wolf terrorist attack or some random nut hell bent on doing a mass shooting. The police and those activists had implied that it could had been just unruly young people doing this. However, these gatherings ripe for any type of attack to happen because they occur at night where shooters could be hard to identify and they dissappear in the night

[Richard]

Happens all over the country - here is Baltimore with 2 dead 28 injured on the 2nd,pick your city,Memphis,Philadelphia,Shreveport all had the same thing .

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/02/us/baltimore-shooting-sunday/index.html

And here is the follow up

Police arrested Aaron Brown, 18, and a 14-year-old.

https://apnews.com/article/baltimore...50b2a055c88445

Same with the shootings around me - 12 - 13 - 14 year old kids.

It’s like anything else lots of people somebody comes from another city or town or neighborhood with a beef and settles it ,or while at the party somebody disrespects somebody else and it’s game on.

I kinda think they are not trying to shoot multiple people It’s they do not properly train to shoot in the first place and unless you spend alot of time shooting a converted Glock or any other converted hand gun to fully automatic,you cannot control it,it has replaced the ever so popular MAC 10 from the 80s.

Thats What makes it so dangerous in a thugs hands,they cannot hit the broad side of a barn in the first place and 99% of the time they never even hit their intended target.

It’s the gang culture mimicking the Mexican cartels,send the message,we will get you and it does not matter how many civilians die in the process,that’s their level of ruthlessness that gets them street credibility.

You see how people talk to others on the internet and what you see is the virtual world meeting the real world and innocent people are dying over it.

They know full well no witnesses are going to come forward, because they already made it clear to what extent they are willing to go too to prove a point.