Kanye West

[stasu1213]

Okay, I am on the right thread now. What do you guys think about kanye west? I think that the President should had said "No comment" pertaining to the incident. What did this had to do with running the country? He should not allow reporters from the potatoe factory to trap him like that.

[Diehard]

It was off the cuff, before the cameras were supposed to have started rolling. Obama didn't realize the cameras were on and was just chatting casually, as he's allowed to do when he takes a break from running the country.
Besides, you can't be offended if it's true. What a jackass.
Potato factory?

[Diehard]

On a side note, it's hilarious that something so little and silly can get blown up into an "issue."

[Bobl]

The man can't win.
First, he tells school children to work hard and do well in school, and he is criticized.
Now, he calls a jackass a jackass, and he is criticized.

I think it is time for him to go on the offensive, and call out the ignorant fools who just don't like him very much.

[ccbatson]

He tells school children to work hard FOR THE COUNTRY/the collective...not a great message unless you are Stalin.

Regarding Kanye, most folks would have said that what he DID was stupid, not that the person was a Jackass.

[Maof]

[quote=ccbatson;70249]He tells school children to work hard FOR THE COUNTRY/the collective...not a great message unless you are Stalin.

your not serious

[gazhekwe]

CC. were it not for "the country" where would you be? You imagine yourself practicing your medicine for an appreciative community, setting your fees as you please and not paying any taxes. How idyllic! No judges to harass you, but oh-oh, no, police, no roads, no waste disposal, no clean water, no national defense, no one to keep the neighbors in line or help you collect delinquent payments....

[Diehard]

He tells school children to work hard FOR THE COUNTRY/the collective...not a great message unless you are Stalin.

Oh please, give it a rest. That's not what he said in the speech at all, but of course you can't go read/watch it for yourself because you might have to admit you were wrong, and that's not ever going to happen, no matter how wrong you are.
Y'know, sometimes I wonder if you're just trolling, and getting a kick out of all this.

Regarding Kanye, most folks would have said that what he DID was stupid, not that the person was a Jackass.

Nah, he's done enough jackass things to earn the title.

[Diehard]

CC. were it not for "the country" where would you be? You imagine yourself practicing your medicine for an appreciative community, setting your fees as you please and not paying any taxes. How idyllic! No judges to harass you, but oh-oh, no, police, no roads, no waste disposal, no clean water, no national defense, no one to keep the neighbors in line or help you collect delinquent payments....

I hear Somalia's got nice beaches.

[blksoul_x]

MTV is at it again! Is there any doubt by now that the stunts ensuing the MTV[[MVA) performances is premeditated? The reality is, we are in an era, where as, the 'spectacle' is rewarded. That is to say, the nature of bad behavior, remarkability, drama and impression in public performance is appreciated. Hence the popularity of MTV and 'REALITY' performance shows.

The days of music award shows where as artist like Michael Jackson strut and showcase their aggressions, [[rather than being the 'spectacle') with dazzling and silky dance moves and elaborate rhythms, Marvin Gaye paralyzing the crowd with the voice of sultry masculinity and femininity, or Run DMC, razing the ruff with the oral instructive of cowboy one-upmanship, is all but gone. So then, what we are left with, is the 'spectacle' and drama to lure 'fans' toward their mission of public impression, rather than reward artistic innovation, and artistic accountability.....which in the end, the 'spectacle', rather than the artist, promotes RECORD SALES!

Bottom line, once we began to unpack MTV's VMA show, or the premeditated impositions of the show, in the end, Kanye's inured behavior, [[albeit a brilliant performance for the times we are living), will be rewarded by his fans who cherish the act of the 'spectacle'....aka the 'keeping it real' fan, or as Barack Obama would call it, the 'quick kills' click.

The young 'basic-white' girl Taylor, will be rewarded by record sales and broader notoriety by the 'sympathizers' and Beyonce, will be rewarded with a broader integrational notoriety as the 'good Black', or the 'Hero' aka 'I wish 'they' were all like her'. Nevertheless, all three party's involved in one way or the other will gain public sentimentality, and will be reward in the end by the cheaper act of the 'spectacle'!

Let's face it, even on DY, the 'spectacle' is rewarded, that is bad behavior, remarkability, drama, and impression is likely to be applauded and innovation and accountability is stomped on!



blksoul-atcha!
The BJL, we a movement by ourselves!

[ccbatson]

He didn't say on more than on occasion in that speech that if the child fails in school, he/she not only fails him/herself, but the country? What do you suppose he meant by that?

[Sstashmoo]

Hitler Youth program?

[ejames01]

This guy has to be the most negative person I have ever come across! It would be nice if everyone would strive to work hard for their family, neighborhood, city, state, country and the whole damn world.

He didn't say on more than on occasion in that speech that if the child fails in school, he/she not only fails him/herself, but the country? What do you suppose he meant by that?

[Detroitej72]

The young 'basic-white' girl Taylor, will be rewarded by record sales and broader notoriety by the 'sympathizers' and Beyonce, will be rewarded with a broader integrational notoriety as the 'good Black', or the 'Hero' aka 'I wish 'they' were all like her'.

Funny, until Blksoul_x's unnecessary basic-white girl quote, I agreed with DY's resident race supremacist's comments.

[Detroitej72]

He didn't say on more than on occasion in that speech that if the child fails in school, he/she not only fails him/herself, but the country? What do you suppose he meant by that?

What do you think is meant by this quote: "ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country"?

America, despite what the religion of free market thinks, is larger than what one's bank accounts balance is.

[Sstashmoo]

Quote: "ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country"?

All fine and good, but when leaders start talking to children in these terms, it throws a red flag. JFK was addressing the nation, presumably adults, presumably his base.

[Islandman]

Riiight. Gee, I wonder when most of us learned this famous quote, as children? Well, maybe not the poster above.

JFK was addressing the country, and in those days people seemed to care more about it now. Funny to see that if JFK was alive today, this quote would go into the bullshit cycle of socialistic fear mongering.

Thankfully, most of us aren't that idiotic.

[exdetroiter]

MTV is at it again! Is there any doubt by now that the stunts ensuing the MTV[[MVA) performances is premeditated? The reality is, we are in an era, where as, the 'spectacle' is rewarded. That is to say, the nature of bad behavior, remarkability, drama and impression in public performance is appreciated. Hence the popularity of MTV and 'REALITY' performance shows.

The days of music award shows where as artist like Michael Jackson strut and showcase their aggressions, [[rather than being the 'spectacle') with dazzling and silky dance moves and elaborate rhythms, Marvin Gaye paralyzing the crowd with the voice of sultry masculinity and femininity, or Run DMC, razing the ruff with the oral instructive of cowboy one-upmanship, is all but gone. So then, what we are left with, is the 'spectacle' and drama to lure 'fans' toward their mission of public impression, rather than reward artistic innovation, and artistic accountability.....which in the end, the 'spectacle', rather than the artist, promotes RECORD SALES!

Bottom line, once we began to unpack MTV's VMA show, or the premeditated impositions of the show, in the end, Kanye's inured behavior, [[albeit a brilliant performance for the times we are living), will be rewarded by his fans who cherish the act of the 'spectacle'....aka the 'keeping it real' fan, or as Barack Obama would call it, the 'quick kills' click.

The young 'basic-white' girl Taylor, will be rewarded by record sales and broader notoriety by the 'sympathizers' and Beyonce, will be rewarded with a broader integrational notoriety as the 'good Black', or the 'Hero' aka 'I wish 'they' were all like her'. Nevertheless, all three party's involved in one way or the other will gain public sentimentality, and will be reward in the end by the cheaper act of the 'spectacle'!

Let's face it, even on DY, the 'spectacle' is rewarded, that is bad behavior, remarkability, drama, and impression is likely to be applauded and innovation and accountability is stomped on!



blksoul-atcha!
The BJL, we a movement by ourselves!

For the first time I must agree with you!!!!!!!!!

[Sstashmoo]

Quote: "Thankfully, most of us aren't that idiotic. "

Unfortunately most of you are.

You are forgetting when JFK made that statement, the country was in much better shape. In those days, and I was there, children were off limits to politics. We were not involved, not targeted by any agenda. It's a cheap shot to target kids in lieu of the state of the country. Our economy is shit, headed for total collapse, our cities are dying crime ridden rotting hulks of what was. How about he target the issues and leave the kids out of it? That is the point I'm making, and not "idiotic" at all.

[ejames01]

Your point IS idiotic.

What the heck is wrong with expecting kids to work hard? That should be the agenda! While are clueless citizens worry about politics that the don't understand, we are becoming a nation of selfish morons.

Quote: "Thankfully, most of us aren't that idiotic. "

Unfortunately most of you are.

You are forgetting when JFK made that statement, the country was in much better shape. In those days, and I was there, children were off limits to politics. We were not involved, not targeted by any agenda. It's a cheap shot to target kids in lieu of the state of the country. Our economy is shit, headed for total collapse, our cities are dying crime ridden rotting hulks of what was. How about he target the issues and leave the kids out of it? That is the point I'm making, and not "idiotic" at all.

[Sstashmoo]

Quote: "While are clueless citizens worry about politics that the don't understand"

hehe...

[Danny]

What I think about Kayne West?

He's just like any other African American males, filled with lots of animosities. He's upset with the 'race card' problem that he wants to tell everyone, that African American culture is the best and it's meant to be recognized and to be preserved to all white folks, Asians, Arabs, East Indians ect...

During the MTV Video Music Awards in 2009. Kanye West interupted Taylor Swift's announcents by claiming that Beyonce's music was best female video ever. In his mind, he was thinking that Beyonce should get the 'Moonman' award. Thus the 'race card' issue will be dealt by having African American Music by various African American artists recieved every music award more than white folks and any other ethnicities.

Please be aware that my codespeak is not racist without giving any definitions. I will rebute your codespeak if you all forumers challege this message with background sociological research materials.

[ccbatson]

Where would I be? You are right...until recently, the US was the last bastion of liberty. What is at stake and what is the goal of Obama's socialist agenda, is to morph liberty into...tyranny [[hmm, sounds familiar, like the title of a best selling conservative book recently published).

[Papasito]

I think that the President should had said "No comment" pertaining to the incident.

What else would you expect from a community organizer handed a free ride to the White House, clearly he's not Presidential.

He only won because we had no choices.
We had an out of touch old man who appeased his opponants running with a woman that could be torn to pieces by critics versus a well spoken, slick and camera friendly rookie running with an old racist that blasts off contraversial quotes like a loose cannon.

Can't say we had much choice

[Sstashmoo]

Quote: "Can't say we had much choice"

And you can thank the "Media" whoever in the F that really is. Ron Paul tried to go to the debates, "Oh we don't have room for him in the studio". They ripped Kucinich apart at every juncture. Either would have been a great President. The "media" steered everyone towards Obama. They wanted him, he is inexperienced, congenial and weak. Easily controlled.

Switching gears, He is now trying to get older men and women to go back to school. Why? How about making young kids go to school? The drop out rate in Detroit alone is astronomical.