The Presidential Race Card

[ccbatson]

Or Michael Steele, or Alan Keyes, or Larry Elder.

[firstandten]

Carter is spot on with his comments. Obama's people are being political with their comments disagreeing with Pres Carter.

You can disagree with Obama concerning policy issues, he's a democrat, I get that but what the clown from SC did was over the top. He disrespected the man and the office. Clinton was never disrespected like this and he was impeached.

more comments from Tim Wise

"In the end, although there are many people, with many different reasons for opposing the President or his health care proposal, the role that race and racism is playing cannot be ignored. With major conservative spokespersons stoking the fires of racial resentment daily, and with most whites having long ago come to the conclusion that social program spending is something done on behalf of racial "minorities" at their own white expense, it is not too much to insist that race is operating, for some quite overtly and for others more subtly "

He then concludes with this statement

"And for those who insist racism has nothing to do with it, the question remains why they have said nothing to those persons coming to their rallies and giving exactly that impression by way of the signs they carry. Where are their letters or calls to Limbaugh or Beck, chastising them for saying Obama hates white people, or that health care is just a form of reparations--racial payback of white America? Of course they have written no such letters. They have made no such calls. They are too busy. Busy waxing nostalgic for bygone days, which they mis-remember as a time of innocence, of decency, and of self-reliance, but which days were really days of widespread injustice, profound indecency, and institutionalized racial preference for people like them.
They can neither accept the present as it is, nor, interestingly, the past as it was. So they invent a phony version of the latter, while hoping against hope for a reversal of the former. Let us deny them the ability to do either for very long "

So yes, as long as people color code their negative comments, such as "goverment dependence" and make statements to a sitting president such as "you lie" indicating a total lack of respect not only for the man but the office you can't help but think some racism is involved. Pres Carter did us all a service by calling the phonies out.

[ccbatson]

Carter has never been "spot on" in anything he has said, why would he start now?

BTW, I believe I know what all of this is supposed to distract from...ACORN and the connection to Obama. Why? connecting ACORN too Obama would certainly be construed by defenders of Obama as racially motivated [[despite the very clear nonracial facts linking them), so, they are laying a foundation of deception and distraction from those facts.

[Jimaz]

Can anyone explain to me why a racist would not object to Obama's policies? Can anyone find such a case that doesn't stretch reason too far?

[elganned]

Anyway of knowing that it isn't libs stacking the deck?

Sigh...CC, this is an "Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam" logical fallacy. The absence of evidence for X does not constitute proof of its opposite.

The absence of evidence that "libs" aren't stacking the deck does not constitute proof that they are.

From an otherwise intelligent [[though misguided) and articulat person, I expected better.

[exdetroiter]

Obama is catching more slack than Bush ever did in his two terms, why is that. He hasn't even been in office one year. Can anyone explain what the harsh criticism is with regard to Obama?

I think he is doing an EXCELLENT job considering what he has to work with and all the opposition.

[Danny]

Americans can't get over the FEAR OF COWARDICE from President Obama. He's reforming government and people are accusing him of being a national socialist. All of these LIES have to stop. Give Obama a chance.

[elganned]

Obama is catching more slack than Bush ever did in his two terms, why is that.

Um, I think you mean catching flack, not slack...

[elganned]

Americans can't get over the FEAR OF COWARDICE from President Obama. He's reforming government and people are accusing him of being a national socialist. All of these LIES have to stop. Give Obama a chance.

Exactly what do you mean by "fear of cowardice"? Do you mean that people are afraid of cowardice? That they're afraid to be cowards? That they're afraid of cowards? Do you mean that folks are afraid that Obama will be a coward?

Help me out, here.

[Sstashmoo]

Quote: "All of these LIES have to stop."

Lies or not and irrelevant, there are undisputed facts that the majority of us take issue with. Escalation if Afghanistan, Not doing shit about the horrific trade situation we have with many countries. Actually working on making that worse, cultivating new third world "trade partners". Granting even more authority to the clearly unconstitutional Federal Reserve bank. These are facts, and proof it's just more of the same. And before someone jumps and says the economy is improving, they are paying people to buy things here with over a Trillion borrowed from China. I could give a shit less about what race he is, where he was born etc. How about he make good on all his campaign promises?

The direction this Government is going you better hope we get free healthcare, there won't be any otherwise.

[gibran]

one just has to Google [[photos of protests against Obama) and will show what is really happening..here and in areas where his messages are being thrown out by those whose agendas are really clear.

[Thomcat52]

Americans can't get over the FEAR OF COWARDICE from President Obama. He's reforming government and people are accusing him of being a national socialist. All of these LIES have to stop. Give Obama a chance.

Am I correct in saying that with a super majority in the Senate, and House of Reps, who exactly, is standing in his way. He has enjoyed quite a lot of success in his appointments, and policy. So he has hit a speed bump with healthcare reform. Wasn't that expected?

[rb336]

Am I correct in saying that with a super majority in the Senate, and House of Reps, who exactly, is standing in his way. He has enjoyed quite a lot of success in his appointments, and policy. So he has hit a speed bump with healthcare reform. Wasn't that expected?

no real supermajority. too many bluedogs, another dead kennedy [[sorry, Jello)

[Thomcat52]

no real supermajority. too many bluedogs, another dead kennedy [[sorry, Jello)

So your answer is democrats? Interesting

[elganned]

Thomcat52, if the Democratic party was as monolithic in nature as many seem to suppose, your point would be a good one. But they are not.

It seems the Republicans have a shorter leash on their members than the Dems are able to exercise.

A consequence which should have been expected, since many "liberal" Republicans were replaced by Democratic challengers in the last general election, leaving only the hard core in place.

[Detroitej72]

Obviously yes, this is not information that can be used as a primary source for reference purposes and for conclusions to be made.

You need to tell your friends on the right like Beck, Coultier, Drudge, and Hannity, since they have frequently been known to use conservative blogs as supposed reputable sources and pass it off as "real news" to the gullible ditto head nation.

[gibran]

I don't think the majority of people who disagree with Obama are racist [[just the ones on the fringes of society: anyway right or left extremes are the voices that we should have questions about their agendas). It is a growing number of people that are being mislead for ratings and hate that should bother true conservatives...when you see a poster stating that "every so often you have the right to kill a officer" [[in reference to fragging a officer in combat) at a Obama rally you really have to ask yourself what the F---... Or when you see right wingers in the settlement movement in Israel calling out our president on the streets; then you have to realize he is scaring the right wingers and bringing the fringes of the extremists out into the open again...

It is sad that it is the majority of people who are willing to engage in real and honest debate that are the biggest losers in this new paradigm.

[elganned]

he is scaring the right wingers and bringing the fringes of the extremists out into the open again...

...where we can get a clear shot. Good work, Mr. Prez.

[Sstashmoo]

"extremists" What a stupid term. It's funny how the media can take literally any term and use it to vilify anyone who disagrees with them. And the masses sign on, like good little brainwashees. I'm proud to strongly believe in something, rather than be some sheet in the wind with no fortitude or convictions and not easily swayed nor led around by the nose.

[gibran]

Folks the extremists are not the ones debating policies, they are the sheep following ideology of extremes-yelling and threatening and screaming...your conservatives who are engaging in normal debate are not the problem...

[Sstashmoo]

A handful of idiots that the media cannot cover enough to support their message. Their message: There are bad people, fear them, you need us.

[rb336]

conservatives who are engaging in normal debate are not the problem...

unfortunately, there seem to be fewer and fewer of them. Just once I would like to see a repub have the balls to stand up to the race-baiting of Limbaugh and Beck. none of them do.

[[yes, limbaugh is race baiting. see his comments on a bus brawl where he said that whites were getting beaten up by african americans in "Obama's America" -- in other words, he is telling all the sociopathic racists -- his primary audience -- "Obama is putting a target on your back, what are you going to do about it?)

[Sstashmoo]

Quote: "Just once I would like to see a repub have the balls to stand up to the race-baiting of Limbaugh and Beck."

Surely you jest? A politician take on the media? That's a good one.

[gibran]

RB They become democrats .. I wish the Democrats would grow some too...

Ted Kennedy Jr. said it best last night ...his father at least knew how to work between the groups, but now days civility is lacking in congress and I am afraid the ultra-conservative media is pushing agendas that reflect their interests and not ours. The other part of this paradigm is that it forces the moderates to be on their heals. When they should take the offense and call these loud mouths out...It's getting a little creepy out there.

[Detroitej72]

"extremists" What a stupid term. It's funny how the media can take literally any term and use it to vilify anyone who disagrees with them.

Right wing politicians started using this term in the 80's to describe anyone who was concerned about the environment, thus they became known as "environmental extremists".

Now, anybody who doesn't agree with the shrills on AM radio is labeled and extremist, activist, radical, etc. The spin doctors from the right have mastered the art of demonizing anyone with a dissenting opinion.