WSU receives grant to make Detroit into center for Black Studies

[Henry Whalley]

$6M grant to help WSU make Detroit epicenter for Black studies [[freep.com)


This is a big deal for WSU as a research institution.

[Jimaz]

Great news but was "epicenter" the best word they could find for that headline?

[DetroiterOnTheWestCoast]

That certainly wasn’t going to happen in Florida.

[Richard]

That certainly wasn’t going to happen in Florida.

Because we already have a all black collage,so if they want to single themselves out and study they can.

Outside of that the constitution says everybody gets treated equally,and we are already diversified,so if you have a black studies program,in order to be inclusive you also have to create a white studies program,a Latin studies program,an Arab studies program,an Asian studies program,an Eastern European studies program,a Mexican studies program.

If inclusivity is the goal how about including everybody and treating everybody equally instead of taking a particular race and telling them they need to be singled out because of the color of their skin,seems kinda racist to me.

[Henry Whalley]

Great news but was "epicenter" the best word they could find for that headline?

Agreed, not the best wording.

[renf]

I thought that the only Historically Black College in Michigan, the former
Lewis College, was in the process of merging in some sense with the
former College for Creative Studies.

[dtowncitylover]

Outside of that the constitution says everybody gets treated equally,and we are already diversified,so if you have a black studies program,in order to be inclusive you also have to create a white studies program,a Latin studies program,an Arab studies program,an Asian studies program,an Eastern European studies program,a Mexican studies program.

If you would like to give a grant to Wayne for one or all of those studies, no one is stopping you. Many universities in Michigan and in the US, have European, Latin and Hispanic, Arab and Middle Eastern, Asian, and Eastern European and Slavic studies programs. Such a crock response to an innocuous program, but what else do we expect from you?

[1953]

Just a nit picky thing -- the last Census pegged Detroit's Black population at 77.9 percent; both the Freep and the WSU prof need to update their stats.

1953

[Richard]

If you would like to give a grant to Wayne for one or all of those studies, no one is stopping you. Many universities in Michigan and in the US, have European, Latin and Hispanic, Arab and Middle Eastern, Asian, and Eastern European and Slavic studies programs. Such a crock response to an innocuous program, but what else do we expect from you?

Maybe they should start with the basics and teach reading comprehension and the ability to follow posts and not take things out of context in order to suit your agenda.

Sorry my bad that is what it is really about,exploiting others for profit and how else do you keep the cash cow going without categorizing and putting people in groups and acting like they are to dumb to figure it out without you riding in and saving them.

Students are going into debt,while expecting others to pay it off,so they can study everything but something that will provide them a comfortable living when they graduate.

If you are going into international law or business,makes sense to study Asia and multiple other countries you expect to be in close contact with,it’s the day of the internet where you can study for free,why give people the opportunity to go into debt studying something that is not going to prepare them for a future?

Its like the ones going to college and getting a liberal arts degree then complaining about having debt so they cannot get ahead in life.

I was under the understanding the whole reason one went to college was to prepare them with the skills for the future so they did not have to start at the bottom.

But yet here we are with millions of collage graduates that cannot even pay their bills and are coming out loaded with debt and no marketable skills.

If I was going to give a grant it would be in the form of a scholarship for somebody regardless of race and not to support a fad in order to look like you are checking all of the boxes.

How long have all of those universities been around that you mentioned?

NOW they need 20 million dollars in order to become inclusive? What was stopping them before?

There is a collage in Tennessee,been in operation sinse before the civil war,if you were poor,from the south and needed an education they provided it free of charge.

It is and had always been 100% donation and alumni supported,they have been inclusive from day one,they did not jump on the bandwagon in order to raise money,some of the most successful African Americans in this country graduated from that college,it is like that because that is the goal of the college and the whole point in it all.

With the amount of broke college graduates,it’s clear somebody forgot what their mission really is,and as much as you want to spin it to about me,it’s not.

[Henry Whalley]

I thought that the only Historically Black College in Michigan, the former
Lewis College, was in the process of merging in some sense with the
former College for Creative Studies.

Pensole Lewis College - Welcome to Pensole Lewis College

[Henry Whalley]

If you would like to give a grant to Wayne for one or all of those studies, no one is stopping you. Many universities in Michigan and in the US, have European, Latin and Hispanic, Arab and Middle Eastern, Asian, and Eastern European and Slavic studies programs. Such a crock response to an innocuous program, but what else do we expect from you?

Agreed, typical crock from a bloviating crackpot.

[Richard]

Agreed, typical crock from a bloviating crackpot.

That’s the problem with society,people that think their crap does not stink act like they are better then everybody else,and the internet has given people a way to hide and say things they would never say to others face.

The electronic version of Dutch courage.

[Henry Whalley]

Pensole Lewis College - Welcome to Pensole Lewis College

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/58661...sneaker-legend

[Henry Whalley]

I thought that the only Historically Black College in Michigan, the former
Lewis College, was in the process of merging in some sense with the
former College for Creative Studies.

Pensole Lewis College of Business and Design Kicks Off a New Era [[hourdetroit.com)

[drjeff]

Because we already have a all black collage,so if they want to single themselves out and study they can.

Outside of that the constitution says everybody gets treated equally,and we are already diversified,so if you have a black studies program,in order to be inclusive you also have to create a white studies program,a Latin studies program,an Arab studies program,an Asian studies program,an Eastern European studies program,a Mexican studies program.

If inclusivity is the goal how about including everybody and treating everybody equally instead of taking a particular race and telling them they need to be singled out because of the color of their skin,seems kinda racist to me.

What the fuck are you talking about? All black "collage?" Wayne State is very diverse and isn't even majority black- it's majority white.


This is a major grant from a foundation that normally gives money to places like Harvard and not to places like Wayne State. Given our position in a majority black city it makes a lot of sense. I was just in a meeting talking about the new faculty hires that can come from this.

[Richard]

What the fuck are you talking about? All black "collage?" Wayne State is very diverse and isn't even majority black- it's majority white.


This is a major grant from a foundation that normally gives money to places like Harvard and not to places like Wayne State. Given our position in a majority black city it makes a lot of sense. I was just in a meeting talking about the new faculty hires that can come from this.

I guess they do not teach reading comprehension there either.

So Wayne state located where a majority African Americans are could not find a way after all of these years not to provide diversity and are now saying with 20 million they can ?

Is it a new university? Just opened yesterday and are now figuring they need to figure out how to include diversity ?

And are they also teaching students that it is okay to use that kind of language in public as a norm?

They were established in 1868 and are just now figuring out they are located in a predominantly back city and that would play a major part in who they educate?

And for 20 million they will now become inclusive to the very target market they should have been doing at least 50 years ago,does that meen without the 20 million a State University will not find away to educate them?

[Henry Whalley]

This is a major grant from a foundation that normally gives money to places like Harvard and not to places like Wayne State. Given our position in a majority black city it makes a lot of sense.

Agreed. IIRC Harvard black studies includes 48 faculty members. The plan for WSU is to hire 30 faculty members and to form a consortium [perhaps not the right word?] with black studies departments at the University of Michigan, Michigan State University, and several other state colleges and universities. I expect that said consortium will compose the pre-eminent black studies organization in the world. And it seems only fitting that it will be centered in Detroit. Also, I hope that the hires will be widely publicized in our local media.

P.S. I'm thrilled about the birth of the Pensole Lewis College of Business and Design. There are 8 billion people on earth who need footwear -- the design, engineering, and marketing of which will be centered in Detroit. PLC will create many middle-class jobs for local talent. It's fitting that rebuilding the middle class should be centered in Detroit.

P.P.S. Richard is best ignored.

[Richard]

I just find it ironic that a predominately African American city,that has been predominantly African American for decades is now saying for 20 million dollars we can now find a way to make them inclusive.

[Margaret's boy]

Can you explain how creating more work for college professors will make life better for black Detroiters?

[Henry Whalley]

Can you explain how creating more work for college professors will make life better for black Detroiters?

Knowledge is power.

P.S. Hopefully, the knowledge that comes from black studies will make this country less racist, and that will be better for everyone regardless of race. America's original sin will be confessed and forgiven.

P.P.S. Unlike in Florida where knowledge is being repressed.

[Richard]

Knowledge is power.

P.S. Hopefully, the knowledge that comes from black studies will make this country less racist, and that will be better for everyone regardless of race. America's original sin will be confessed and forgiven.

P.P.S. Unlike in Florida where knowledge is being repressed.

Florida does not need to have 20 million in order to be inclusive,they were already inclusive before it became a fad,just like all the other nationalities,but last I checked,African Americans are Americans so are you saying they need special funding in order how to figure that out?

Or are you saying they are different and are in their own little group and need 20 million so they can figure out if they fit in?

If you want to be inclusive,one would think it would be simple just to include them and treat them like everybody else, instead of categorically putting them into their own little group.

Florida has an all African American college,maybe they can apply for the 20 million so they can be more inclusive?

Nobody is repressing anybody of any knowledge,it’s like anything else,it’s available and up to the individual to achieve it.

[Henry Whalley]

"Black studies is supposed to be an epistemological break, and that’s why it’s dangerous—because it actually wants to try to figure out a way to make this country not racist."

Robin D. G. Kelley, a professor of history at U.C.L.A

[Richard]

"Black studies is supposed to be an epistemological break, and that’s why it’s dangerous—because it actually wants to try to figure out a way to make this country not racist."

Robin D. G. Kelley, a professor of history at U.C.L.A

Next they will be calling for Putin to come here and teach Russian studies to third graders.

Its not about teaching African American studies,which would be okay,if it was possible to do with out an underlying agenda,okay for grown adults when they are mature enough to process information but not for K12 and below when some cities a majority are not graduating with the ability to read and write.

Robin Kelly is a excellent example,but who is he?

Black Marxists

The boldest activists demanded that we abolish police and prisons and shift the resources funding police and prisons to housing, universal healthcare, living-wage jobs, universal basic income, green energy, and a system of restorative justice. These new abolitionists are not interested in making capitalism fairer, safer, and less racist—they know this is impossible. They want to bring an end to racial capitalism.


Black Marxism is neither Marxist nor anti-Marxist. It is a dialectical critique of Marxism that turns to the long history of Black revolt—and to Black radical intellectuals who also turned to the history of Black revolt—to construct a wholly original theory of revolution and interpretation of the history of the modern world.

https://www.bostonreview.net/article...g-kelley-tk-2/

If you have an unbiased educator teaching black studies in an unbiased manner,that would be a form of education.

If you have

Putin teaching Russian
Hitler teaching German studies
Stalin teaching Soviet history
China teaching American students

When you have activists teaching it is not education it is indoctrination.

Its akin to offering an economics class then teaching the benefits of socialism as the lead.

Here is a list of 10 universities that have been offering advanced African American studies since the 60s,including one in Florida,you can read what they are offering.

https://www.collegemagazine.com/the-top-10-colleges-for-african-american-studies/


They have been teaching African American studies or offering as advanced an studies option and not indoctrination like what is starting to become ever so popular.

the act of indoctrinating, or teaching or inculcating a doctrine, principle, or ideology, especially one with a specific point of view:

to instruct in a doctrine, principle, ideology, etc., especially to imbue with a specific partisan or biased belief or point of view.

[oladub]

Remembering that Wayne State used to have large pharmacy department, I opened up the WSU pharmacy department's site to see what their students look like. The average pay for a pharmacist in the US is $134,000/year. "The average annual pay for an African American Studies in the United States is $76,138 a year."

I found two group photos of WSU pharmacy students. On one photo, I noticed at most two black students. out of seventy-four students. There were a lot of Middle eastern and perhaps East Indian faces but blacks were pretty much missing. I can't lift the photos so here is a link. Keep clicking the 'students' link until the student photos show up. https://cphs.wayne.edu/students/index.php

$6M won't go very far but a possible use for part of that amount would be to find some black students willing and able to major in pharmacy.

[Sehv313]

If inclusivity is the goal how about including everybody and treating everybody equally instead of taking a particular race and telling them they need to be singled out because of the color of their skin,seems kinda racist to me.

You seem kind of racist.

As a WSU graduate and post-graduate alumni I find your comments to be skewed and misinformed.

WSU is NOT an all black college [[11% Black, if that), in fact the only all black Michigan college was Lewis and Lewis colleges has not refused students of different nationalities. I've taken Black Studies courses in 2015 at WSU under the tutelage of Mrs. Melba Boyd and students of all races were included and treated as equally and fairly.

No one forces college students to take classes, that is only up to their own will. If you think a school program is singling out a particular race of superior/inferior pedestals, then maybe you need to learn about the course before speaking lies on it.