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    Has anyone tried this yet?

    Detroit airport tests departure board that shows personalized flight info

    ...In late June, Delta Airlines launched a beta version of its new Parallel Reality technology that allows dozens of people to simultaneously see unique content on the same digital screen. Detroit is the first, and currently only, airport in the country to experiment with the futuristic technology developed by Misapplied Sciences, based in California....

    Just beyond Detroit airport security, the new display board hangs near the Delta Sky Club.

    Delta passengers can scan their boarding pass, select a language and test out the system. Using “multi-view pixels and proprietary technology,” the board then shows personal flight information, boarding time or even standby status, a news release said.

    As many as 100 people could be looking at the board and see something different....

    “This technology truly must be seen to be believed,” Goswami said in an announcement.

    The Parallel Reality displays project up to millions of light rays that can be directed to a specific person. Non-biometric sensors then reportedly track passengers who can see the display even if they move....
    Last edited by Jimaz; July-17-22 at 04:31 PM.

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    Really cool tech. Thanks for the info, Jimaz!

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    Parallel Reality!

    Our airline companies need to back to reality and find a way to slow these potential flight cancellations.

    Oh! I miss those friendly skies. When airline companies give you a luxury flight and yummy airline food.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKaeIhGT368
    Last edited by Danny; July-18-22 at 07:01 AM.

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    I'm just trying to guess the basis of the technology.

    It seems similar to lenticular lenses. There's also a phased array antenna which can steer an RF beam without using moving parts.

    I can imagine a military application for camouflage — display the view behind {from the viewer's perspective} the object to be hidden.
    Last edited by Jimaz; July-18-22 at 08:28 AM.

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    Interesting but it sounds gimmicky and I don't see how much it adds to customer needs. It appears to be a sophisticated take on the old school lenticular flip or flash buttons--flip it to one side and it flashes a different image. Haven't seen those in a long time BTW. They used to be quite common.

    I guess my question is why can't they, if they don't, simply deliver that to my smart phone, assuming it has unique information to add to the tons of information that is already on my phone.

    This appears to require a scanning step presumably to some stationary device. Maybe this is for China with its big brother face recognition network. The sign will recognize you and deliver your information.

    I could see some disbelief resistance to using it someone saying, "I don't trust that I'm the only one who can actually see my data."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowell View Post
    ...I guess my question is why can't they, if they don't, simply deliver that to my smart phone....
    My thoughts exactly. There's no need for a shared monitor in this application. They should have picked a better application for the "big reveal."

    Quote Originally Posted by Lowell View Post
    ...Maybe this is for China with its big brother face recognition network.
    Geekwire's story has a correction that says
    A previous version of this story and headline misstated that “Parallel Reality” uses facial recognition technology. The story and headline have been updated.
    But they obviously know your name and at least your local movements plus your itinerary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lowell View Post
    ...I could see some disbelief resistance to using it someone saying, "I don't trust that I'm the only one who can actually see my data."
    That kind of skepticism is healthy.

    Still, I'm intrigued by how they shine different colored light in different directions from the same pixels.

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    There is all ready a program that bail bondsmen use,they upload your picture and the program excesses every câmara connected to the internet in the country.

    Airports and stadiums already use facial recognition,as soon as you walk in the door they know who you are.

    If you get a parking ticket in Orlando and are international flight,you cannot leave the country until you pay the ticket,the passport photo tags you as soon as you walk in the door and alerts the airline.

    Technology is becoming insane,I read an article the other day where they are now using AI to test AI so they are making them think for themselves.

    They have drones the size of a fly that has audio and video,they can fly it in and set it down on your shoulder and record you.

    Hard to believe Alan Turing created all of this in order to win a war his vision back then has become a reality.

    His opposition had the same concerns back then,as we do today.
    Last edited by Richard; July-19-22 at 01:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowell View Post
    This appears to require a scanning step presumably to some stationary device. Maybe this is for China with its big brother face recognition network. The sign will recognize you and deliver your information.
    I had the same thoughts. Apparently you set it up and then you're tracked non-biometrically through the airport. When you look at any of these signs it delivers your information just to you. This is according to the information I found here: https://www.geekwire.com/2022/parall...e-flight-info/

    Travelers opt in at a kiosk by scanning their boarding pass or digital identity, creating a private viewing zone at the user’s location. The display directs relevant flight information to that zone. As the viewer moves around, a non-biometric overhead sensor continually shifts their private zone to their new location. This allows the viewer to see their own personalized content even as they move.

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    ^ I read it's a bit different than that. You scan your boarding pass, and the display tracks your silhouette [so long as you remain in view of it's cameras), and the display pixels aim your flight information at just you. Once you walk past the display kiosk thing, it looses track of you and you'd have to use the regular display boards. It's not GPS tracking you throughout the airport, or doing facial recognition or anything.

    So far it is only at one or two of the airlines.

    I was through DTW's McNamara yesterday evening, and I didn't see any of the displays.
    Last edited by Rocket; July-19-22 at 10:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    ^ I read it's a bit different than that. You scan your boarding pass, and the display tracks your silhouette [so long as you remain in view of it's cameras), and the display pixels aim your flight information at just you. Once you walk past the display kiosk thing, it looses track of you and you'd have to use the regular display boards.
    If that's the case you might as well use your phone.

    Although I can see the future of this technology. You opt-in for biometrics. There's all kind of customized information for you about your flight, the weather where you're going, and PERSONALIZED ADS tailored just for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottathew View Post
    you might as well use your phone.

    .. all kind of customized information for you about your flight,

    .......and PERSONALIZED ADS tailored just for you!

    Yuk!

    My boarding pass had the time and the gate number printed on it. Not sure what else I need to know.

    Though I did slightly slow my walk in order to glance at one of the display boards so as to cheak that my flight was still "on time".

    That probably slowed my arrival to the gate by 1-2 seconds. But I had 45 minutes to spare.

    Perhaps they could use some of that alternate reality money to re-install clocks in the terminal? Seems to be a dearth of clocks in today's world.
    Last edited by Rocket; July-20-22 at 07:24 AM.

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    It is clearly step one to implementing targeted ads in the real world. Start it under the guise of making travel better and as they perfect the technology it will be everywhere and they will be able to charge companies huge sums of money to get your eye balls when they are not buried into your phone.

    Sometimes I wonder how different the world might be if people used their brainpower for things the world actually needed instead of this stuff. Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    ^ I read it's a bit different than that. You scan your boarding pass, and the display tracks your silhouette [so long as you remain in view of it's cameras), and the display pixels aim your flight information at just you. Once you walk past the display kiosk thing, it looses track of you and you'd have to use the regular display boards. It's not GPS tracking you throughout the airport, or doing facial recognition or anything.

    So far it is only at one or two of the airlines.

    I was through DTW's McNamara yesterday evening, and I didn't see any of the displays.
    So what happens if you put a disguise on during the process? The cloak decides to cancel your ticket because it thinks you are no longer there ?

    I remember the days when they said the music in stores had subliminal messages embedded in them in order to get you to buy more.

    With this and the facial recognition already in place,no need to check in anymore,as soon as you walk in the door it verifies that you are there.

    It would be cool as an employer,it would track all of your employees and you could tell how much time they spend sloughing off during the day or even WFH so not only they can track keystrokes as they already do but they can verify how much time you actually devoting to your 8 hours physically.

    Thats really what it is doing,giving somebody the ability to track others without having to address the whole chip implant aspect.

    With cameras and drones,they already determined nobody has a right to privacy in public,which is kinda screwy because you still cannot walk about necked in public.

    A world wide investment house has a headquarters in Tampa,they offered the chip implant to employees,you can use it to excess the building even buy lunch,just scan your wrists,a majority of employees readily excepted it and thought it was a good idea.

    China is already using this technology,swear in public and it puts a hit on your social credit score and effects if you can rent an apartment or buy a house or even get a job,it starts tracking you as soon as you walk out your front door.
    Last edited by Richard; July-20-22 at 11:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    So what happens if you put a disguise on during the process? The cloak decides to cancel your ticket because it thinks you are no longer there ?
    No. It has no idea what you look like.

    Think of a thermal image camera, or night vision.

    You scan your boarding pass at a kiosk 20 feet after TSA.

    The cameras on the display sees the figure at the kiosk, and follows it's movements as it walks towards the special display, where it aims that ticket-holder's info at the figure. Once the figure moves past the camera's field of view, it looses track of the figure and the system no longer functions for that person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    .... Once the figure moves past the camera's field of view, it looses track of the figure and the system no longer functions for that person.
    It would be fun to test that by doubling back to see if it still recognizes you.

    See, the problem I would have with this technology would be getting obsessed with how to fuck with it, how to break it, how to get it to do something that would flummox the designers. I'd miss my flight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    No. It has no idea what you look like.

    Think of a thermal image camera, or night vision.

    You scan your boarding pass at a kiosk 20 feet after TSA.

    The cameras on the display sees the figure at the kiosk, and follows it's movements as it walks towards the special display, where it aims that ticket-holder's info at the figure. Once the figure moves past the camera's field of view, it looses track of the figure and the system no longer functions for that person.
    How does it identify you in order to follow ? It cannot be based on being a blob or a figure.

    Night vision would not work in a fully lit airport,with thermal peoole would blend into the crowd and be a big blob,it would have to pick a distinguishing feature.
    Last edited by Richard; July-20-22 at 10:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    How does it identify you in order to follow ? It cannot be based on being a blob or a figure.

    Night vision would not work in a fully lit airport,with thermal people would blend into the crowd and be a big blob,it would have to pick a distinguishing feature.
    Not night vision,.... I was simply trying to convey to you the idea that cameras have LONG been able to track a person, even without knowing who it is.

    Modern digital CCTV cameras are programed recognize that an object is a person, and follow it. The $150 security cameras at my business office do that already.

    They use changes in pixel colors to detect motion [instead of some old-school motion sensor), and when it sees pixels changing that are in the shape of a person, it puts a green box around them as they walk. I can even do a search of the parking lot cams months later and select "people", and the system will only show me the bits of recorded video that have people in it.

    The system has no idea the identity, gender, sex, race or the like.. It just sees that a person is walking there.

    This is really low budget stuff.

    Here's an example in a party store. The party store's surveillance system has no idea who these people are. Just that there are people.
    https://youtu.be/d1bky80NXeQ?t=182


    The news here is this new display type can aim multiple images in multiple directions simultaneously, so that you and I can be standing 6' apart, and you can see one thing, and I another.
    Last edited by Rocket; July-21-22 at 10:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    Not night vision,.... I was simply trying to convey to you the idea that cameras have LONG been able to track a person, even without knowing who it is.

    Modern digital CCTV cameras are programed recognize that an object is a person, and follow it. The $150 security cameras at my business office do that already.

    They use changes in pixel colors to detect motion [instead of some old-school motion sensor), and when it sees pixels changing that are in the shape of a person, it puts a green box around them as they walk. I can even do a search of the parking lot cams months later and select "people", and the system will only show me the bits of recorded video that have people in it.

    The system has no idea the identity, gender, sex, race or the like.. It just sees that a person is walking there.

    This is really low budget stuff.

    Here's an example in a party store. The party store's surveillance system has no idea who these people are. Just that there are people.
    https://youtu.be/d1bky80NXeQ?t=182


    The news here is this new display type can aim multiple images in multiple directions simultaneously, so that you and I can be standing 6' apart, and you can see one thing, and I another.
    Yes I understand that,the military has had the technology for a long time,even during the Cold War 1 multi warhead Titian missile could track 16 separate targets simultaneously,and that was using 1950s technology.

    Casinos use it,Wal-Mart ,police helicopters,the Feds and CIA,military for targeting multiple boogies,drone swarms where you upload the photo into the drone and it seeks one target out in a crowd or multiple targets with precision,with 1 7.62 round.

    I also understand the jist of it,but the YouTube video you posted highlighted the fact that all you have to do is change a few lines of code and you can unlock the full potential of a program that can be very dangerous.

    Those systems have been around for a long time,they can be hacked into and used for different reasons,when our country spies on others,we do not use our cameras,we excess theirs and use them against them.Any home owner câmara system that is connected to the internet can be excessed through the internet.

    The question is no matter how cool it is,is it wise to be using military grade systems on civilians considering where it can lead to.

    Its not new technology,it’s being placed in a new setting.

    International travelers are using a retina scan for boarding in place of a passport verification,it all goes into a data base,what this is doing is using the boards and a flip of a switch which brings them the ability to track multiple people at the same time,at the civilian level.

    The airport is just implementing terrorist tracking tools where all of the airports across the country can be monitored from one central location.

    Get an active shooter in an airport you can identify and launch a mini drone that is parked up in the rafters or on a ledge ,and take them out in a matter of seconds from 1000 miles away.
    Last edited by Richard; July-21-22 at 04:38 PM.

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