Nessel jokingly calls for ‘drag queens in schools.’ ?

[Zacha341]

As the headlines state 'GOP not laughing'...

Is everyone else in stark contrast therefore laughing? Where's the true hilarity, support or even practicality of this here?

Has AG Nessel forgotten that Michigan's [the largest Middle-eastern pop outside of the M-East] Muslim populations [no less what Detroiter's think] may NOT want this in their public K12 schools/ libraries?

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-go...p-not-laughing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...publicans.html

Some lawmakers hope to crack down on drag shows watched by children

[southen]

Ah yes, let the right wing outrage machine take over. I love a group of people that think kids listening to a drag queens is detrimental to a child's growth and could impact their development but think that constant shooter drills are normal and fine. Better to find a solution to a joke than one for an actual problem.

[Zacha341]

^ So anyone questioning this IS a right-winged/GOP/Gun-zealot?

The great machine indeed of the 'them'. Grouped-up over there!

How tidy and expedient [to so package dissenters so neatly].

But untrue.

[jcole]

Oh, good lord, it was a JOKE!!! She's only saying that Drag Queens are entertainers, not someone trying to "groom" people's kids and after the last few years, entertainment is good. There are many straight Drag Queens; they are in it for the entertaining aspect or they are cross dressers, which does not make them gay or queer or lesbian or anything else. I swear to god that people can no longer take a joke; everything has to be an insult or something to fight about.

[jcole]

Then link you posted above has this

Conservatives are lambasting Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel for jokingly calling for drag queens in schools during a Wednesday speech about civil rights.

as the first paragraph, so apparently it IS about Conservatives..

^ So anyone questioning this IS a right-winged/GOP/Gun-zealot?

The great machine indeed of the 'them'. Grouped-up over there!

How tidy and expedient [to so package dissenters so neatly].

But untrue.

[Zacha341]

Right-O! Jokes. In 2021 Britain was ALSO too serious and disapproving of the 'good' as one of their libraries had to apologize for allowing a dildo-wearing person publicly presenting before their children. Didn't see that coming......

Shucks! Fearing that things might have gone just a bit too far they just couldn't relax, sit back enjoy/ affirm the 'entertainment' for their children!

British library apologizes for hiring 'rainbow dildo butt monkey' for kids

As it goes most [even libertarians] have their particular offense/views ala hills they'll die on re. what they value. For many this STILL includes children.

My fav are those triggered by parents who are so-called triggered about what THEY want their specific children to be exposed too!

Oh, good lord, it was a JOKE!!! She's only saying that Drag Queens are entertainers, not someone trying to "groom" people's kids and after the last few years, entertainment is good. There are many straight Drag Queens; they are in it for the entertaining aspect or they are cross dressers, which does not make them gay or queer or lesbian or anything else. I swear to god that people can no longer take a joke; everything has to be an insult or something to fight about.

[Zacha341]

Yep. We're lead to BELIEVE they're the only 'package' pushing back, apparently.

Not so.

There will be bipartisan, moderates, etc. questioning this. They already are!

Then link you posted above has this as the first paragraph, so apparently it IS about Conservatives..

And what we laugh at, and about [Nessel's supposed joke] conveys where we're at - on multiple levels.

[Richard]

In her speech, she described complaints about children being exposed to drag queens as “fake issues” that are dividing people and not impacting the quality education, noting that she is tired of officials creating “wedge issues that don’t help us, that don’t heal us, but divide us,” the Detroit News reported.

It was not a joke,she is telling everybody she alone determines what is a fake issue and what is not,which shows she is disconnected with people,well only the people she is choosing to divide.

I like how she says they are entertainer’s,she is correct,the two that were having story time in Minnesota while giving crotch shots in front of children were strippers.

By her reasoning,parents should be allowed to bring their children into topless joints so they can also be entertained.

And people wonder why public schools are losing so much support.

LMAO with the she is tired of people creating wedge issues that divide us.

Look in the mirror,your whole party spent 4 years creating wedge issues 24/7 even making things up in order to do so and now all of the sudden it’s the party of unity.

Where was her voice at that time ? Hypocrites

It’s becoming,shut up and give us all of your money and we will tell you what is best for you.

[Zacha341]

It’s becoming, shut up and give us all of your money and we will tell you what is best for you.

Hah! Meet the new boss - same as the old boss! Little's changed. Gotta love the guidance on what's fake or important. Detroiters so need this. Right?......

Especially re. children. What a day that she'd make this 'eh 'joke' presentation before the Dearborn Public Schools. Not solely for the assumed reasons [racist-white-bigots-up-north] but the largess of Muslims who will not abide!

Other larger MI school districts might not roll these dice either risking further alienating from parents and further dropping enrollment. Graduation and academic achievement remains a problem. Not all gonna fall-into-line!

Even the most dyed-in-the-wool dems ain't a guarantee. More black Detroiters are increasingly angry at [again] being TOLD WHAT'S BEST FOR US -- NOW OUR CHILDREN. Our repudiation ethos keeps us pretty teflon re. the name-calling and the if you don't agree 'you're-a-________' packaging.

[Gistok]

Yes Richard... I know that you probably have been traumatized by Rocky Horror Picture Show which came out in the 1970s... so many of us have been damaged and traumatized by it... let's not let our kids get like that... besides... which gender bathroom should drag queen use? This is serious stuff folks... should not be made a joke of!!!!

And think of all the folks that were traumatized by the movie Billy Elliott!!

[Zacha341]

^ LOL! Well I must say this is tame compared to what you see now! Presented with great aplomb in some situations! Such as what I posted #6.

Whenever I think for a nano-second I'm just an oldster mrs. grundy on these subjects I ask younger people in my community and particularly my adult kids about what they want for their children [my grandkids] etc. They don't want the extreme stuff - and are very concerned. Very little incoming is funny or cute - increasingly applied to children.

I also work with varied ethnic and racial groups/ individuals also questioning!

For all the talk of Globalism, we might want step out of our bubble to see how other cultures and peoples outside of the US view much of this.

It ain't a good look!

[Gistok]

^Zacha341... I had always questioned the introduction of G.I. Joe... should boys to be dressing a male doll... I mean yes he is macho... but he's still a doll. Is that appropriate for young boys to be playing with??

<sarcasm alert off>

[Jimaz]

Ah yes, let the right wing outrage machine take over....

Shhhh.

• Phase 1: Collect underpants.
• Phase 2: [Buy stock in hair extinguishers.]
• Phase 3: Profit!

South Park Underpants Gnomes Profit Plan

[Richard]

Yes Richard... I know that you probably have been traumatized by Rocky Horror Picture Show which came out in the 1970s... so many of us have been damaged and traumatized by it... let's not let our kids get like that... besides... which gender bathroom should drag queen use? This is serious stuff folks... should not be made a joke of!!!!

And think of all the folks that were traumatized by the movie Billy Elliott!!

That’s the disconnect,there is what you think you know and what you actually know.

I have never seen the Rocky Horror Picture show,I can see how you have been traumatized by something even if not by some rocky horror.

You guys just take your self thought narrative and run with it.

As far as GI Joe - you do realize it is a toy and not actually boys dressing boys,no different then girls dressing Barbie.

Not all youngsters have those dirty little thoughts you seem to have when you were young.

Maybe that is why their is such a high suicide rate within the younger generation,you guys are doing your dam best to stop them from actually being children and trying to force your grown up ways on minds that cannot comprehend.

A 4 year old does not need to be questioning what his dick is for,he should be like a normal kid,put an X in his hand to keep the girl germs away and let them figure it out when they are of age.

You are trying to introduce sexuality in children and it is wrong.

Tell me that I am wrong in saying if a real man had sat there giving crotch shots to a bunch of children during story time,he would be in jail as he should be,but nooooo if a confused wanna be does it ,it is funny.

A drag queen does not need a bathroom choice in schools,they do not need to be there in the first place.

Dueling protests erupted outside a gay bar in Dallas on Saturday as the bar held an allegedly “family friendly” drag show for children on behalf of Pride Month.
Advertised as the “Drag The Kids to Pride” show, the performance featured drag artists “danc[ing] and walk[ing] down the aisle in the room” while “tak[ing] dollar bills from some of the children,” according to local station WFAA.

It was held at the Mr. Misster gay bar & club. Children & transvestites danced in front of an electronic sign that read, "It's not gonna lick itself."

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/06...tside-1246375/

And that is why you have 12 year olds doing twerking on tic toc ,you are supposed to protect children from that crap and not introducing them and encouraging them to it.

Next it will be porno in kindergarten under the guise that it is artistic talent,Marylyn Chambers bedtime stories or Ron Jeremy’s tips for young aspiring actresses in the 1st grade.

[Zacha341]

Sure, it teaches them finger dexterity to manage clothing any doll one can argue. Do they even sell those anymore? I'm sure toy guns will be the next subject [happily compared to drag queen story hour]... I would not have my kids involved with those either considering how they readily can be mistaken as real fireames [ex: the 2014 tragic shooting of Tamir Rice].

If so interested parents might want open their eyes a tad wider. Talking to some pretty 'progressive' young parents has been revealing on how they feel re. suggestive presentations before children. They want the divide clear as to what is adult vs. what's not. Social media is blurring the edges.

^Zacha341... I had always questioned the introduction of G.I. Joe... should boys to be dressing a male doll... I mean yes he is macho... but he's still a doll. Is that appropriate for young boys to be playing with??

[Gistok]

Next it will be porno in kindergarten under the guise that it is artistic talent,Marylyn Chambers bedtime stories or Ron Jeremy’s tips for young aspiring actresses in the 1st grade.

Major Slippery Slope there Sparky... you really should brush up on your logic fallacies... and again what Homonyms are [learn the difference between "SINCE and SENSE"]. I've mentioned that twice to you before.

Oh... and I just Googled Ron Jeremy... so you know about a porn star, but you don't know about an American cult classic..."Rocky Horror"... funny that.

[Meddle]

No where near Orange, but not in favor of this. In recent days, I've run across examples in other searches and my first thought was that it was far too 'adult' [as in adult entertainment] for grade schools. High schools maybe, but not even sure about that.

People bitched about women that worked for Hooters showing up at school events where their kids were enrolled.

[Jimaz]

I think we could all agree that it would be wise to keep Rudy Giuliani far away from children.

Long Lost Footage Shows Rudy Giuliani Dressed In Drag with Donald Trump

There. I unified. What did I win?

[Zacha341]

Yep. That's what I've been saying. The assumed adjacency to the right [Orange] if you dare criticise any of this is sooo perfect. For what's being justified.

Gradualism also has the affect - dimming you into thinking all of this is normal.

TikTok and Youtube, for example, run 24/7 unapologetic examples [lest there remain any doubt] of what kids are now exposed to [and celebrated]. Well beyond even five years ago. No longer gradual, the slide is picking up momentum!

In the meantime we're distracted in the fight over who's SIDE affirms what. I am instead challenging the 'what'.

As they say in the streets 'Ain't no shame in their game'.

Increasing.

Poorer Detroit children will be impacted the most. Their parents cannot all move to better school areas, or afford private schools that say no. And some working multiple jobs cannot home school.

No where near Orange, but not in favor of this. In recent days, I've run across examples in other searches and my first thought was that it was far too 'adult' [as in adult entertainment] for grade schools. High schools maybe, but not even sure about that.

People bitched about women that worked for Hooters showing up at school events where their kids were enrolled.

[Zacha341]

Yep. He can stay away from kids too in that get-up. Now what happens?

Do I get a prize too! LOL!

I think we could all agree that it would be wise to keep Rudy Giuliani far away from children.

There. I unified. What did I win?

[Richard]

Major Slippery Slope there Sparky... you really should brush up on your logic fallacies... and again what Homonyms are [learn the difference between "SINCE and SENSE"]. I've mentioned that twice to you before.

Oh... and I just Googled Ron Jeremy... so you know about a porn star, but you don't know about an American cult classic..."Rocky Horror"... funny that.

You did have a crappy education if all they taught you was because you had a piece of paper it made you better then everybody else.

So you had to Google Ron Jeremy but not Marilyn Chambers,so you know about some porn stars and highly un-educated if your indoctrination teaches you that if somebody has not seen Rocky Horror it baffles your imagination.

You are the poster child of educating children verses indoctrination.

Guess what,I do not collect toxic Legos either,shocking is it not?

I paid my way and dues in life,if I want to spell a word wrong or use it in the wrong context and you do not like it,o well too bad for you.

You should feel fortunate that somebody else paid your way,and as you are sitting in your ivory tower,remember there are children and families being killed every day as bombs rein down on them,too bad all that education was wasted instead of going to somebody that may have deserved a better chance in life.

That’s the worst part,you did not pay your own way for the privilege of being able to feel superior in your own mind over others.

I cleared $1800 for less then 1 hours worth of work yesterday,that was after I paid somebody else to do the heavy work,now I have to decide if I want to work for the rest of the month or not,I will take my lack of education in your eyes,over your store bought one any-day.

I would like to see you go to the store and buy a loaf of bread and tell them you can spell correctly in exchange for payment and see how far it gets you,you would be better off bringing wooden nickels considering the price of lumber lately and at least you will be bringing something of value to the table.

Your kind spends more time and energy confusing kids as to who they are or what gender they are then you do teaching them financial responsibility.

But that is par to the course it is never about them gaining opportunity or getting ahead in life,because if they did it would make all of you smart people seem irrelevant and you cannot have that.

My 3X11 plastic phone is smarter then you,so you were already obsolete years ago,replaced by a cheap little phone that a 4 year old can operate.

Your mind is being replaced by AÍ and unless you learn some kind of an actual skills,that piece of paper that you think makes you so special is worthless,until the next pandemic toilet paper shortage.

How come they never asked you to do story telling for children? They went to a drag queen over you,shows where you really are in the pecking order.

[southen]

Real question. How many in this thread have been to an actual drag show?

[Richard]

Or how many would even want to go?

How many have smoked crack ?

If parents do not want their kids around bad influences,they are not going to allow them to be around them,kids are already subject to stuff way before they are able to understand and process it.

If everybody smokes crack and if they like it does that make it acceptable for children ? If an adult chooses to partake in certain activities that is their adult decision.

A drag queen is not up there modeling for Versace,they are up there screaming for attention in the most radical way they can under the guise of being sexually desirable.

Would you want a grown man wearing only a diaper or a S&M mistress reading stories to children,I could see in high school where she could whip classrooms into shape.

This is story telling in libraries,that are supported by taxpayer dollars,so at the end of the day,the taxpayers have a right.

Funny how they are prosecuting parents under the guise of not taking a more active role in their childrens life and education,but yet when they do,they are immediately called a right wing outrage machine.

Talk about double standards and fake standing up for people,our president is going to Saudi Arabia to convince them to send more oil over here,a place a that puts a bullet in the head of homosexuals and drag queens,but that’s okay as long as it puts gas in the tank.

[southen]

Or how many would even want to go?

How many have smoked crack ?

If parents do not want their kids around bad influences,they are not going to allow them to be around them,kids are already subject to stuff way before they are able to understand and process it.

If everybody smokes crack and if they like it does that make it acceptable for children ? If an adult chooses to partake in certain activities that is their adult decision.

A drag queen is not up there modeling for Versace,they are up there screaming for attention in the most radical way they can under the guise of being sexually desirable.

Would you want a grown man wearing only a diaper or a S&M mistress reading stories to children,I could see in high school where she could whip classrooms into shape.

This is story telling in libraries,that are supported by taxpayer dollars,so at the end of the day,the taxpayers have a right.

Funny how they are prosecuting parents under the guise of not taking a more active role in their childrens life and education,but yet when they do,they are immediately called a right wing outrage machine.

Have you always been like this or are you just senile? It was the simplest of questions to see if anyone else here, other than myself, can speak from experience.

i do appreciate the response in that it tells me you are as clueless about this as you are about almost everything else. Crack? It’s done under the guise of being sexually desirable? You’re clearly projecting your own insecurities.

[Richard]

^ actually you are,we went from 1st ladies doing story telling to drag queens,the reason they bring somebody in is to provide inspiration to little minds.

It has nothing to do with my insecurities,I am sure it would be beneficial to society to encourage more children to be inspired to be future drag queen’s.


Why is it when you falter. you have to resort to me personally?

I get it,you went to a drag show so you have an experience,personally I do not need to place my hand on a hot stove burner to know it will burn.

You have never owned or fired a gun but yet you have an opinion on them,how are things like this any different?