Michigan governor releases 2-year budget proposal

[irish_mafia]

Perhaps the single worst Governor in the history of this State.

http://detnews.com/article/20090908/...udget-proposal

I continue to hear the call from the businesses I work with out of state "Don't they want business in Michigan?"...and of course, the answer is no, not if it means that the politicos have to walk away from their funding from Unions [[private and public) that put them in power.

Reduce the size of the State Govt, Reduce the tax burden [[don't just shift it again, it didn't work when she tried it before). Become a right to work state so that we can actually attract manufacturers again. Provide incentives for business, not road blocks.

...and when you attract new business, you bring in more revenue sources so a lower rate actually provides a higher revenue stream.

My friend's small business is just about bankrupt from the last "tax improvement" she provided.

Idiot, idot, idiot

[lilpup]

The idiots are those who think the environment and the services we still have can still be had after tax cuts.

Those who keep screaming for tax cuts have no response when it's pointed out that areas with much higher taxes are doing better than Michigan is.

[Lorax]

Granholm is perhaps the best person for the job- if we had the socially retarded Engler or another Rehtuglican like him, then we'd really be fucked.

Either corporate America learns to support unions, play by the rules of "we the people" or go somewhere else.

Cutting taxes on businesses never helped this or any other state. It just sets up the playing field for future tax cuts, and massive corporate welfare giveaways as "incentives" to doing business here.

The world has changed. Corporated America has proven to us the lengths to which they will go to screw their way to profits, while driving down wages to third world levels, eliminating benefits, etc. Sorry, no love for the greedfest that defines the Rethuglican corporate Reich.

[irish_mafia]

Either corporate America learns to support unions, play by the rules of "we the people" or go somewhere else.

They learned long ago. They left this cesspool of taxation and union thuggery called Michigan to the highest unemployment rate and the longest running recession in the country. You sure taught them!

No worries though, Lorax and Lilpup will keep the masses employed

[ccbatson]

Private based prosperity will far outstrip any government services, I assure you.

[Lorax]

They learned long ago. They left this cesspool of taxation and union thuggery called Michigan to the highest unemployment rate and the longest running recession in the country. You sure taught them!

No worries though, Lorax and Lilpup will keep the masses employed

I'd say we're about half way there.

When we can control the outcome as a people, we all win eventually. Good riddance. The people need to break the backs of these wealthy, elitist greed machines and either they play by our societal rules, or they leave. Period.

Socialized health care is the only good outcome from this so-called health care debate, and it's not going to happen. Fine. When the rest of the teetering system collapses, then perhaps we need a little anarchy to wash out the dead wood, and start over as a socialist state like the rest of the industrialized world.

[irish_mafia]

You are right there Lorax. Have a chat with all those people that you employ and let them know about the benefit of that. It should all work out just fine for them and your company.

[Lorax]

Sorry dude, but I don't have those problems with my employees.

Couldn't find a happier bunch, that stay long-term, are given the benefit of being treated as adults, and so what if I make a little less personally when I can provide decent health care, fringe [[remember those) benefits, etc.

In the last year, I have been touched deeply by the willing sacrifices some came to me with, knowing times are challenging. We ended up not having to make any.

When was the last time that happened in corporate America?

[ghettopalmetto]

Yeah, Michigan should become a Right-to-Work state. Just like all the economic juggernauts in the Deep South.

[Danny]

At least Graholm is brining over 4,000 green jobs to the Once Ford Wixom Plant.

YAY GRANHOLM!

[ccbatson]

Sigh...subsidized green jobs that taxpayers will pay for on many fronts. The jobs themselves producing a nonsense product not called for by the market.

[elganned]

Sigh...subsidized green jobs that taxpayers will pay for on many fronts.

Like the tax abatements that brought the Wixom plant there to begin with? Didn't we all pay for those, too? So where's the difference?

The jobs themselves producing a nonsense product not called for by the market.

You're an expert on the energy market, too? You wear so many hats, bats, I can't keep track...

[Lorax]

One of the Bat Hats is supposedly that of "Doctor". Whether or not this is true, I will take him at his word.

I would like Batt's take on the Rethuglican response to the president's speech tonight. Dr. Charles Boustany, a heart surgeon from Alabama obviously wrote the response before he heard or read the text of Obama's speech, which made it awkward and obtuse.

Add to that, the fact that Dr. Boustany has been prosecuted twice for malpractice, and in a typically doctorlike moment of hubris, decided to "buy" the noble title of "Lord" from a scammer in Britain who specialized in selling lineage titles to rich, stupid Americans. He admitted to being defrauded in such a scam.

Think some doctors need to be brought down a notch or two?

Well, Dr. Lord Charles Boustany said that too many people he's met over the years could have benefitted from better health care coverage- I wonder if he meant that from a hippocratic viewpoint, or a monetary one? Gee, I wonder- NOT!

[ccbatson]

There you go again Lorax...attack the messenger, because you have no ability to confront the issues.