BLM Protests Continue-Where's This Going? Intended Outcomes?

[Zacha341]

Portland, Chicago and Seattle coming completely undone...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eader-comments

• A protester shot and killed in a shooting at a protest in Texas Saturday night
• Footage showed people marching in downtown Austin when gunfire rang out
• In Seattle, cops declared the protests 'riots' Saturday afternoon after unrest broke out in the city
• People vandalized and set fire to the East Police Precinct and a juvenile detention facility
• Other protesters threw rocks, bottles, fireworks and other explosives at cops
• Portland demonstrators chanted 'feds get out' outside the Marriott, where they believe officers are staying...........

Downtown Portland businesses, derailed by pandemic, say protests present a new challenge

https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavir...challenge.html

From article:

....Restaurants and retailers throughout Oregon have struggled to stay afloat amid the coronavirus pandemic. Some businesses have already closed permanently. Others say their futures are uncertain.

But downtown Portland business owners say they are facing unique challenges as they try to recover from the economic devastation brought on by the pandemic. Many point to the raucous protests downtown and the controversial federal response, which have put the city atop national headlines.

While most of downtown is tranquil, and nearly all confrontations between protestors and police take place late at night, the nightly protests have given Portland a reputation for upheaval that businesses say is keeping shoppers away.

Why are liberals siding with Portland’s violent anarchists against law-abiding feds?

https://nypost.com/2020/07/24/why-ar...-abiding-feds/

From article:

...Despite the occasional looting, chaos, property damage, trespassing, rioting, graffiti, assaults, arson and general mayhem, the media consistently assure us that antifa “protesters” are “largely peaceful.” And since the majority of buildings in Portland, Seattle and Denver haven’t been looted yet, who am I to argue?

[Honky Tonk]

Portland, Chicago and Seattle coming completely undone...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eader-comments

• A protester shot and killed in a shooting at a protest in Texas Saturday night
• Footage showed people marching in downtown Austin when gunfire rang out
• In Seattle, cops declared the protests 'riots' Saturday afternoon after unrest broke out in the city
• People vandalized and set fire to the East Police Precinct and a juvenile detention facility
• Other protesters threw rocks, bottles, fireworks and other explosives at cops
• Portland demonstrators chanted 'feds get out' outside the Marriott, where they believe officers are staying...........

Downtown Portland businesses, derailed by pandemic, say protests present a new challenge

https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavir...challenge.html

From article:

....Restaurants and retailers throughout Oregon have struggled to stay afloat amid the coronavirus pandemic. Some businesses have already closed permanently. Others say their futures are uncertain.

But downtown Portland business owners say they are facing unique challenges as they try to recover from the economic devastation brought on by the pandemic. Many point to the raucous protests downtown and the controversial federal response, which have put the city atop national headlines.

While most of downtown is tranquil, and nearly all confrontations between protestors and police take place late at night, the nightly protests have given Portland a reputation for upheaval that businesses say is keeping shoppers away.

It's heading for uncivil war.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/constitut...110023058.html

[Jimaz]

Trump Administration Goes Full "Minority Report"

The Trump administration is arguing for "proactive arrests". John Iadarola and Jayar Jackson break it down on The Damage Report.

Proactive arrests? Think about that for a minute. That's an admission of intent to arrest people before they've committed a crime, i.e., people who have not yet committed a crime. That accusation could match anyone, including the secret police themselves!

[Meddle]

Dig back a few years and you'll find that Donny's first AG stated outright he did not intend to prosecute police officers or engage is 'consent decrees' to oversee police departments.

The next and current AG is 100 times worse.

Until those types of thinking are removed from all levels of government, expect this to continue.

[Richard]

^ until everybody is removed from government that we do not agree with,expect this to continue.

Fixed it for you.

Its kinda like being dumbfounded over proactive arrests.

It happens all of the time,it’s called conspiracy to commit.

You do not have to buy 100 kilos of cocaine,you just have to discuss it as in intent.

You do not have to burn a building in protest,you can discuss your intent on social media and you have entered into a conspiracy,it does not matter if no building is burned the crime is conspiracy to commit with intent.

We told you guys about giving up your rights for safety,your reply and justification was ,if you are not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.

Well,why whine about pro active arrests?

If you are not doing anything wrong,you have nothing to worry about.

Right?

You do not have to commit a crime,simply discussing committing a crime is a crime in itself.

You can thank the Democratic side of Reagan for that gem.

[Honky Tonk]

It looks like BLM Protests have morphed into a political riot.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-hel...060017234.html

[Zacha341]

Uh, yep. Portland is it's own specific mess - with a healthy dose of far left privilege to boot, well beyond the original issues re. George Floyd!

Who really wants this coming to their town; dealing with continued lawlessness where you cannot even conduct basic activities in addition to what the COVID has already thwarted? Asking that question may net results not desired. So rarely asked.

Much of what Portland and other dem cities are experiencing are born out of SJW ideologies usually expressed and somewhat sated at the academe college level. Ideologies now having a fertile outlet beyond the CLOSED classrooms... Woo-hoo! Good times indeed.

On the other hand, the majority of black people in say Detroit aren't enamored with socialistic, communist goals and marxist teachings.

From article:

... some black leaders are asking whose interests the televised nightly confrontations really serve – and whether they are a continuation of white domination at the expense of black interests.

Our priorities [[and interests) are more related to challenging specific police misconduct - not an agenda of taking over the democratic party [[and ostensibly the US) towards all out leftism as an expressed world view. NOPE.

So you'd not have the same type of eh' 'protests' and silence from those 'disinterested' in that narrative.

From article:

The president of the Portland branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People [[NAACP), ED Mondainé, warned that the Black Lives Matter movement in the city is being coopted by “privileged white people” with other agendas...

Further, Portland's voting is NOT going to be altered by their radical ironically 'white-bread' clad protests [[it's a blue state after all - Duh!).

So their agenda has to be an direct and existential attack up the dem status quo as they perceive it to be. For certain many are challenging that 'quo', but not necessarily in this manner.

As an unintended consequence, beyond their turf, their far left exercise[[s) therein may point more of its [[silent) citizens [[and others across the country) to center right so as to avoid mirroring Portland etc.

Especially at the local voting level, specific to their upcoming mayor[[s) as they can't go much further left then they are in that regard.

They're not changing much re. support for their specific cause as it related to Trump. That state was not voting for him withstanding the anarchy?

So, beyond activating their particular revolutionary push-back of the democratic party [[a party increasingly unstable to even present a viable presidential candidate) ala the 'Bring IT ALL DOWN' far left referendum, they are hurting who?

[Meddle]

the 'Bring IT ALL DOWN' ...

Interesting that you pick that phrase, one that I thought of earlier. One of the core concepts of the Marines and many state police academies is to tear a recruit down, destroy their old ways of thinking and behavior in order to build them back up to fit the mold of how they want a Marine or trooper to think, act and behave.

The current system is flawed. Maybe so badly that it NEEDS to be torn down and rebuilt, at least to some degree. We have a Dictator wannabee siccing guerillas on the citizens. That cannot be allowed to continue.

[Wheels]

Interesting that you pick that phrase, one that I thought of earlier. One of the core concepts of the Marines and many state police academies is to tear a recruit down, destroy their old ways of thinking and behavior in order to build them back up to fit the mold of how they want a Marine or trooper to think, act and behave.

The current system is flawed. Maybe so badly that it NEEDS to be torn down and rebuilt, at least to some degree. We have a Dictator wannabee siccing guerillas on the citizens. That cannot be allowed to continue.

If you hate america and it’s core values so much why not move to Venezuela.Their government fits you better!

[Bigdd]

So their agenda has to be an direct and existential attack up the dem status quo as they perceive it to be. For certain many are challenging that 'quo', but not necessarily in this manner.


.............. as they can't go much further left then they are in that regard.

They're not changing much re. support for their specific cause as it related to Trump. That state was not voting for him withstanding the anarchy?

So, beyond activating their particular revolutionary push-back of the democratic party [[a party increasingly unstable to even present a viable presidential candidate) ala the 'Bring IT ALL DOWN' far left referendum, they are hurting who?

This is the Fascist ideology, more than Marxist. We are taught to believe Socialists like Hitler [[National Socialist Worker Party) and Mussolini [[Italian Socialist Party) were somehow right-wing conservatives, just because Mussolini overthrew a Socialist government in his rise to power.

That's completely untrue of course. Fascists don't care who is in power ATM,.. they just want power for themselves. Also,.. their ideologies get more support in areas that are already far left,.. so it's easier to whip up lots of useful idiots into a violent, murderous frenzy in such a place than it would be in a conservative area.

So they usually end up taking down fellow socialist governments in their violent rise to power.

That is what's happening in Seattle right now. Leftist Fascists in the elite class are using the dense population of socialist "useful idiots" to smash, kill and burn in order to carry out the elite's agenda of getting themselves to power.

[Meddle]

We need to evict the Facist Venezuela type Dictator Wannabee to get back to the core values this country was founded on.

[Wheels]

We need to evict the Facist Venezuela type Dictator Wannabee to get back to the core values this country was founded on.

This is where the left is heading.

[aj3647]

This is where the left is heading.

Do you have sources for ANY of that other than some bullshit meme you saw in your Facebook newsfeed? Because I'm pretty sure Venezuela has police...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_en...t_in_Venezuela

And yes, the flag of Venezuela was re-designed in 2006, to add one star to make it 8 stars instead of 7. In that sense, it's absolutely no different than the various revisions to the U.S. flag to add stars when new states were added.

Here's the old flag of Venezuela [[1954-2006):


And here's the new flag [[2006-Present):


My God...THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. The first flag screams "free capitalist democracy" and the second one screams "PURE SOCIALISM!!!!" Those BASTARDS! The flag is practically unrecognizable!

Seriously, that's what you're going to piss your panties over? That they added a star to their flag?

[Bigdd]

Do you have sources for ANY of that Because I'm pretty sure Venezuela has police...


And yes, the flag of Venezuela was re-designed in 2006, to add one star to make it 8 stars instead of 7.
Seriously, that's what you're going to piss your panties over? That they added a star to their flag?

OK,.. so only 7.5 of the 8 points the meme made were true.

Flag change minor = .5

The police WERE in fact eliminated [[and replaced with a national police force,... I.E. the very thing the leftists in Seattle, Chicago etc are screaming bloody murder about right now. And accusing the president of being a Facist Venezuela type Dictator Wannabee just for deploying them [[to try to protect federal buildings)).

And the rest true? [[I.E. Statues torn down, streets renamed, churches destroyed, businesses destroyed, citizens turned against each-other, etc) All true?

I take it you agree?

[Honky Tonk]

We have a Dictator wannabee siccing guerillas on the citizens. That cannot be allowed to continue.

True, but when Trump tries to stop them, he gets a lot of push-back from the left.

[Zacha341]

As I've said so much of this is BOUND: In politics. In the meantime the average person[[s) living in these cities are captive to bedlam.

[oladub]

In Minneapolis, a Democratic city where Trump has not sent police, $55M of riot related property damage took place, 220 buildings were set on fire including two [[federal government) post offices that were destroyed.

Federal forces should not be used except to enforce federal laws [[think FBI) and protect federal property or they are invited in.

Minneapolis, Seattle, and other Democratic cities' riots are proof that the addition of federal forces to protect federal property are not responsible for being the common factor being used as a excuse for degrading Democratic cities. If there are common factors, they might include the same culture of young black clad white brats and elected officials who tolerate and condone their rioting.

Portland's difference is that the brownshirt crowd focuses more of its attention on the federal building where they shoot and throw things and try to tear down a fence nightly. At least in doing so, they aren't spending the same time ruining other businesses, cars and other less defended locally owned property.

[aj3647]

Here's a little American history for you all. The Founding Fathers must have been SOCIALIST! Not only did they pull down statues, but they committed theft and vandalism [[Boston Tea Party).

The first monumental statue in what was to become the United States of America was an equestrian statue of King George III. It was executed by the British sculptor Joseph Wilton. Commissioned in 1764 and cast in lead covered with gold leaf, the Neoclassical statue showed King George dressed in Roman garb astride a horse, the whole effect being reminiscent of the Marcus Aurelius statue in Rome. It was set up on a tall pedestal in Bowling Green Park in New York City and dedicated in August 1770.

On July 9, 1776, the Declaration of Independence was first read in New York City, and to celebrate it a group of patriots pulled down the statue, and eventually melted it down to make bullets with which to fight the British.

Good thing you all weren't around back then, you would have been on the side of the British.

[aj3647]

American soldiers vandalizing a historical monument, Nuremberg, 1945.



How sad does that make you guys to see that "piece of history" blown up by dynamite?

[Zacha341]

^^^ Of course there was a great deal of blowing up of things on both sides. Good times resuming!

[Wheels]

Do you have sources for ANY of that other than some bullshit meme you saw in your Facebook newsfeed? Because I'm pretty sure Venezuela has police...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_en...t_in_Venezuela

And yes, the flag of Venezuela was re-designed in 2006, to add one star to make it 8 stars instead of 7. In that sense, it's absolutely no different than the various revisions to the U.S. flag to add stars when new states were added.

Here's the old flag of Venezuela [[1954-2006):


And here's the new flag [[2006-Present):


My God...THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. The first flag screams "free capitalist democracy" and the second one screams "PURE SOCIALISM!!!!" Those BASTARDS! The flag is practically unrecognizable!

Seriously, that's what you're going to piss your panties over? That they added a star to their flag?

I don’t give a crap what they did to their flag that doesn’t change the FACT
the left still want either change or ban many of our historical flags. [[along with anything else the snowflakes don’t like!)

[Wheels]

American soldiers vandalizing a historical monument, Nuremberg, 1945.



How sad does that make you guys to see that "piece of history" blown up by dynamite?

You really don’t get it do you? This is exactly what the democrats want to accomplish except this time it’s all americans.

[Meddle]

the left still want either change or ban many of our historical flags.

No one is proposing a ban of any United States flags.

[Bigdd]

No one is proposing a ban of any United States flags.

You haven't followed what's going on out there apparently.

Many people have been attacked, been savagely beaten, had their property destroyed etc for having a US flag.

Some leftists dig-bats claim to be "triggered" at seeing a US Flag.

And yes, it has even been banned in places, and this Marxists movement apparently want's to ban it all together. [[Gotta get rid of the current regime if you want to establish your own).

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats...a-of-uc-irvine

[Wheels]

No one is proposing a ban of any United States flags.

Their is only one AMERICAN FLAG. We have fifty states and many historical flags. The left is trashing anything that doesn’t fit their agenda and even that changes daily. How about Blm calling for police protection so they could protest police and call for defunding.