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  1. #26

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    From the articles I've read, Clinton and Trump are *probably* in the clear regarding any seedy involvement with Epstein. Out of the allegations against him and his "parties," nobody has named Trump or Clinton. There was one allegation against Trump involving Epstein dating back to the 90's but it was dropped as Trump wasn't in Florida when the alleged assault happened. Also, Trump had a falling out with Epstein in the 2000s, and banned him from Mar-a-Lago after he tried to molest one of the staff.

    That being said, there are a lot of other powerful people Epstein allegedly has dirt on. Possibly camera footage. I think an impartial and transparent investigation is in order, ideally from those with no stake in the matter. Of course this will probably not happen.

  2. #27

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    Yawannabet they'll never put Prince Albert in a can? (OK, it was Prince Andrew but that doesn't have the same ring, does it?)
    Last edited by Meddle; August-12-19 at 12:32 PM.

  3. #28

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    And the leader of the free world needs to stop posting conspiracy theories from some unknown dude sitting in his car. Now that's just 'effin weird.

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    ^ see now that is gender bias,a woman was a part of the hit team that took out the general at the Dubai hotel that was selling arms to bad people.

    So it can very well be a dudette sitting in a car somewhere.

    Outside of that,now is your chance to show the leader of the free world up,just provide the evidence that you acquired while sitting in the cell with him.

    See how clear things are?

  5. #30

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    I previously read that Epstein committed suicide with a belt. Now the NY Post is saying that he strangled himself with a sheet suspended from a bunk bed. Assuming that Epstein was about 6' tall, that bunk beds are about 5.5-6' tall and that the bottom of his chin is about 10" below the top of his head, it must have been difficult to position himself or hold his legs off the ground long enough to hang himself. There's always the dangling toe problem too.

    After writing the above, I looked up 'hanging'. It turns out that most victims of suspension hanging are only partially hanging so, if I understand that phrase 'partial hanging' then it was possible for Epstein to hang himself on a bunk bed.
    One other note: when I looked this up, Google was thoughtful enough to have a suicide hotline at the top of the page for people to call.
    Last edited by oladub; August-14-19 at 07:25 AM.

  6. #31

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    I’m pretty sure when they found Chris Cornell dead in his Detroit hotel room his body was on the floor from like the hips down. What a horrible way to go

  7. #32

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    Has the warden given a statement yet considering the high profile nature of this incident?

    Maybe that's why we've not heard from her...?
    Last edited by Zacha341; August-13-19 at 09:46 PM.

  8. #33

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    Warden has been reassigned to a desk job. Or is that promoted to a cushy job?


    On the heir front, seems LOTS of folks are claiming to have been 'fathered' by Jeff's prolificly distributed swimmers.

  9. #34

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    ^^^ What? His children. All that sex and no children (that see the light of day alive) is the usual!

    Shannigans abound here... the old warden is not even named! Guards found asleep. Goodness what a mess.

    Guards Slept Through Checks and Falsified Records/ Warden Reassigned!
    Last edited by Zacha341; August-14-19 at 08:16 AM.

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    What? Now there is a possibility that Epstein may have been strangled by someone's hand.

    Noooooooooooooooo, you don't say.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f08_story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Wesson View Post
    What? Now there is a possibility that Epstein may have been strangled by someone's hand.

    Noooooooooooooooo, you don't say.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f08_story.html
    I'm shocked, I tells ya, shocked...

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    Further commentary on the Epstein case:


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  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Wesson View Post
    What? Now there is a possibility that Epstein may have been strangled by someone's hand.

    Noooooooooooooooo, you don't say.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f08_story.html

    "Among the bones broken in Epsteinís neck was the hyoid bone, which in men is near the Adamís apple. Such breaks can occur in those who hang themselves, particularly if they are older, according to forensics experts and studies on the subject. But they are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation, the experts said."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZBu4mtALFo

  15. #40

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    Omg...

    sung to the tune of Mitch Ryders, Devil with a Blue Dress


    Bill Clinton with a blue dress, blue dress, blue dress.
    Bill Clinton with a blue dress on... Heeeyyyy!
    Blues dress, Blues dress,
    Blues dress, Blues dress,
    Blues dress, Blues dress, On.....


  16. #41

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    If the Clintons were so good at undercover atrocities and devious enough to "suicide" their enemies, don't you think Hillary would be President and Trump would be, um, "gone"? And Epstein would have disappeared without a trace back in about 2010

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    She never viewed Trump as a threat,remember she thought she had the election in the bag,then once president she could have destroyed him without starting a war.

    She is evil,
    but she is a smart evil,which is dangerous

  18. #43

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    The feds are discussing the seizure of his assets to create a slush fund of sorts in order to settle potential civil lawsuits.

    So far at this point there are allegations but no process of determination of guilt,so how does the government seize assets in a just in case situation before actually proving guilt.

    His death stops criminal actions so it will be hard to actually prosecute anybody associated with him,putting aside that guilt by association is not a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    so how does the government seize assets in a just in case situation before actually proving guilt.
    There are an awful lot of people across the country who have had large sums of money taken from them without anything more than an accusation or suspicion; no charges ever even filed. I've read of cases where people were carrying cash from their business to buy something or make a deposit --- taken under CAF with little or no hope of return. Do a web search. You'll find plenty. Some PDs have essentially used it to fund their daily operations where they don't have enough tax funding.

    Also, DOJ has openly stated his death won't stop anything. They say they're still investigating and may issue new arrest warrants. The agreement in the Florida case is under review also and may be revoked.

  20. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meddle View Post
    ... taken under CAF with little or no hope of return....
    (CAF = Civil Asset Forfeiture)

  21. #46

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    The side effects of giving up freedoms in the name of security,you hear it all the time,if you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.

    Its not a justification.

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