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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    ^ itís okay I will not hold it against you,or the Canadian peanut gallery.

    It is logic,somebody is shooting at you,would you have a better survival rate if ....

    A: you are armed and can return fire

    B: you are forced to run faster then the bullets.

    You cannot expect or depend on the police to be there in less then 30 seconds,it is no different then if somebody breaks into your house,call the police and hope they will be there when?

    Why do you think that they are picking soft target locations.

    Because they know the intended victims will not be able or will not fight back.

    Now they are saying it has nothing to do with being mentally unstable,like it is sane to go shoot a bunch of people that are unable to defend themselves.
    You left out C) The gunman doesn't exist, cause we didn't let him get a gun or ammo in the 1st place.

    Most effective strategy ever.

    Proven to work throughout the world.

    Toronto, a city of 3,000,000 has 32 homicides so far this year, that's a pace of 58 for the year.

    Remind me what the homicide rate is down there?

    Right, even El Paso, considered once of the safest cities in the US has a homicide rate in a normal year almost 3 per 100,000 residents.

    By contrast, Toronto has a rate of 1.9 homicides per 100,000 residents.

    That compares with 5.3 in the U.S. overall.

    One strategy works, the other does not.

  2. #102

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Visitor View Post
    You left out C) The gunman doesn't exist, cause we didn't let him get a gun or ammo in the 1st place.

    Most effective strategy ever.

    Proven to work throughout the world.

    Toronto, a city of 3,000,000 has 32 homicides so far this year, that's a pace of 58 for the year.

    Remind me what the homicide rate is down there?

    Right, even El Paso, considered once of the safest cities in the US has a homicide rate in a normal year almost 3 per 100,000 residents.

    By contrast, Toronto has a rate of 1.9 homicides per 100,000 residents.

    That compares with 5.3 in the U.S. overall.

    One strategy works, the other does not.
    Are you going to compare apples to apples?

    Homicides increased in recent years alongside a significant jump in shootings, said Lee. So far in 2018, there have been 364 shooting incidents and 497 victims, according to police data. That's more than double 166 shootings and 207 victims in 2014.

    Toronto Has Highest Homicide Rate Among Major Canadian Cities For 2018


    https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/11/...wux67s2m7LJK7H

    I already posted El Paso is a smaller community that is home to two military bases
    and the base for the immigration task force.

    So given that thier base is comprised of the military and law enforcement it would stand to reason that they are
    somewhat safer.

    The level of rape is higher then the National standard.

    If they did not have the military and immigration enforcement presence
    then thier levels of violence would mirror other border cities that have violent cites across the border from them.

    So thier current level of safety is irrelevant when using it as a model.

    The bombing in Manchester concert also shows,guns or not somebody intent on doing harm will find a w
    a way to inflict it.

    Even a simple van can be used,as you are well aware of.

    England has a knife ban but the amount of stabbings in London is at critical levels.

    You going to advocate the banning of vans now? Saying the gunman would not exist if you remove weapons would be the same as the van killer would not have existed if you had banned vans.
    Last edited by Richard; August-09-19 at 01:50 PM.

  3. #103

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    Grasping at greasy straws big time, Richard. Poor judgement on all counts

  4. #104

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    ^ at least I do not wallow in hypocrisy,notice when 15 teenagers were dieing everyday from cell phone distraction and driving... nobody called for a ban on cellphones.

    Maybe it is because they only want to regulate things that they do not like?

    How is Flint doing these days,they did not have a problem with kids drinking lead tainted water,but loud and clear when a child is drinking safe water out of a drinking fountain at the border,saying they were forced to drink out of the toilet.
    Last edited by Richard; August-09-19 at 02:53 PM.

  5. #105

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    An expert being interviewed on CBSN podcast says this.

    If a baker is asked to bake a cake in the shape of a shotgun,that should be viewed as a red flag.

    So in her mind the very site of a firearm automatically ties it to nefarious use.

    There are some dangerous people out there that do not need to use a weapon,only a platform.

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