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    Default Local developer wants to buy Joe Louis Arena site

    Local developer wants to buy Joe Louis Arena site

    Gilbert + Bedrock?

    Other options:
    Redico
    Schostak Brothers
    Taubman

    But wouldn't we rather have Stephen Ross/Related Companies? Hudson Yards 2.0

    I'm not even going to suggest Olympia. smh

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    Interesting...Gilbert/Bedrock seems to have their hands full with so many large projects though. Maybe Gilbert wants to see a 1,000 room hotel in that spot?

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    A hotel/residential combo would be a nice addition there. Added 400-500 hotel rooms right at COBO's footstep, a few hundred residences as well. Although I didn't see in the article if the parking structure and lot next to the Joe were up for grabs as well.

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    great location for some starchitecture

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    The *IN* thing these days is for cities to get ~2,000 rooms or so hotels connected to their convention centers.

    Nashville has one, OKC's getting one, Atlanta's getting one and Indianapolis has several.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybridy View Post
    Local developer wants to buy Joe Louis Arena site

    Gilbert + Bedrock?

    Other options:
    Redico
    Schostak Brothers
    Taubman

    But wouldn't we rather have Stephen Ross/Related Companies? Hudson Yards 2.0

    I'm not even going to suggest Olympia. smh
    Or Mizrahi Developments from Toronto. They're quite active in the TO market and their founder has been looking for a project in Detroit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke09 View Post
    Or Mizrahi Developments from Toronto. They're quite active in the TO market and their founder has been looking for a project in Detroit
    Meant to link in this article from last fall that talks about Mizrahi registering a RE development entity in Michigan.

    https://www.crainsdetroit.com/real-e...-estate-market

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    A hotel on the JLA site would be a huge fail even with the proximity to the convention center. It seems unlikely that convention business alone could provide the necessary room-nights to make a profit and why would non-convention visitors choose such an isolated property. A Riverfront Towers-like residential project seems like the only option that would make sense.

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    The city is well aware of how disconnected the site is, and it would remain to be seen what the site program should be.
    https://www.wxyz.com/news/proposal-f...o-w-riverfront

    The city wants to demolish several structures as part of the plan:
    - The ramp for Exit 1A from the John C. Lodge Freeway that leads to the arena parking garage and Jefferson Avenue.


    - The Cobo Center circular parking ramp on Congress between Second and Third avenues. The area would then be used for a possible Cobo expansion.


    - The pedestrian tubes that link Cobo to the arena parking garage, and a walkway that links the garage to the arena.


    The study proposes a bridge for pedestrians and bicycles over the Lodge to connect with Third Avenue. That's the street on the western edge of the arena that's now cut in two by the freeway. The street leads to the DTE Energy campus headquarters and MGM Grand Detroit casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybridy View Post
    The city is well aware of how disconnected the site is, and it would remain to be seen what the site program should be.
    https://www.wxyz.com/news/proposal-f...o-w-riverfront
    I still think it would make more sense to build a moving walkway/escalator over or through Cobo that would have pedestrians exit either in the Cobo lobby or sidewalk out front. It would be a lot less expensive than all of the other proposed changes, would link the hotel with the conv. center, which is the whole purpose of it, and pedestrians would be walking along Jefferson to Woodward or north on Washington, both superior to making their way north over the lodge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    I still think it would make more sense to build a moving walkway/escalator over or through Cobo that would have pedestrians exit either in the Cobo lobby or sidewalk out front. It would be a lot less expensive than all of the other proposed changes, would link the hotel with the conv. center, which is the whole purpose of it, and pedestrians would be walking along Jefferson to Woodward or north on Washington, both superior to making their way north over the lodge.
    Speaking of Cobo, I would like to see better use of the roof. I know they created green space recently, but I'm referring to more space and getting conference attendees up on the roof with spectacular river, skyline and bridge views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke09 View Post
    Speaking of Cobo, I would like to see better use of the roof. I know they created green space recently, but I'm referring to more space and getting conference attendees up on the roof with spectacular river, skyline and bridge views.
    Since it looks like they may scrap the ramp that leads to the roof I think they should make the whole damn thing a green roof or park. I used to think it would also be a cool spot for a Top Golf or something similar that could green things up and allow people to take advantage of the views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    I still think it would make more sense to build a moving walkway/escalator over or through Cobo that would have pedestrians exit either in the Cobo lobby or sidewalk out front. It would be a lot less expensive than all of the other proposed changes, would link the hotel with the conv. center, which is the whole purpose of it, and pedestrians would be walking along Jefferson to Woodward or north on Washington, both superior to making their way north over the lodge.
    Do all of the above. I think the west riverfront is going to take off between this site and some of the other parcels in the vicinity. Have paths that lead through Cobo and those that cross over the Lodge. Give people as much access as possible to downtown from that area.

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    Unless the streets in that area and the confusing and ugly spaghetti bowl of ramps and bridges is cleaned up, the only thing that would make sense on the JLA site is a Cobo addition or a garage directly connected to Cobo. That area's a mess and very unattractive to pedestrians or anyone looking to do more than drive through.

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