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    Default The Coming War on China. Documentary

    The first part of this film exposes the atrocious treatment of the Marshall Islanders by the United States government since the second world war. Atom bombs dropped near civilian populations and the establishment of bases on atolls contrasted with the poverty and disease of the natives.

    Warning; this is a very graphic depiction of the relentless need to dominate and punish and destroy life by the imperialists that rule over the United States and possessions, protectorates and fiefdoms on this planet.

    https://vimeo.com/277068625

    Also available on Amazon Prime.

    You can also say the same for France in their Pacific Island possessions.

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    ^ I do not get the point of it,38 minutes into it and nothing to do with the upcoming war with China.

    So why did they name it that?

    What happened in the Marshall Islands is not a big hidden secret anymore it was kept secretive during the Cold War for obvious reasons but hard to keep something like that a secret.

    There are also several other short movies out there that show how the plastic trash is destroying the islands along with the sea water rising or the islands sinking,foreign countries harvesting millions of tons of sand the list goes on.

    We had lots of test results from the bombs dropped on Japan but because the cat was out of the bag with nukes it was necessary to figure out everything they could have in case of an attack here.

    The dirty side of war is sacrificing thousands in order to save millions.

    The daily threat of a possible nuke war in the 50s was real and what was done needed to be done.

    Others countries like to cry shame on the United States for doing the dirty work but they gladly excepted the test results in order to save thier population in case of an attack.
    Last edited by Richard; July-15-19 at 04:59 PM.

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    You see, that's what I like about you, Tricky Ricky, you're heroic in a cowardly kind of way.

    What seemed to be unacceptable when this drunk paperless foreigner killed seven people suddenly turned into an okay gung go act of bravery when your govt nuked thousands of far-flung Marshall Islanders. Your elastic.morals makes you a perfect guinea pig for the Chump
    Second Coming. Cheers.

    Oh, and please remind me and my Canuckistani friends to feed our children a healthy breakfast.
    Last edited by canuck; July-15-19 at 09:50 PM.

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    ^ so why make it about me and the current administration and what are you expecting me to do about it?

    We cannot go back 70 years and change things and nobody cares about what is happening today when 1’ of plastics washes up on the beach.

    You are basing opinions on hind site,the arsenal of democracy is across the river from you and was a primary target,should something had happened gaurenteed Canada would have been on the phone asking about prevailing winds and such,just as the Russians were when Chernobyl went belly up.

    In your reply you are acting like Canada through history has acted like the example of humanity for the world,I hate to break it to you but you guys also have your skeletons in your closet also,they just do not tell you about them or you prefer to glass over them.

    Your agenda,like the article posted, has zero to do with the up coming war with China and China has already made it clear that they will have world domination without having to go to war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    You see, that's what I like about you, Tricky Ricky, you're heroic in a cowardly kind of way.

    What seemed to be unacceptable when this drunk paperless foreigner killed seven people suddenly turned into an okay gung go act of bravery when your govt nuked thousands of far-flung Marshall Islanders. Your elastic.morals makes you a perfect guinea pig for the Chump
    Second Coming. Cheers.

    Oh, and please remind me and my Canuckistani friends to feed our children a healthy breakfast.

    Did true-d'oh! and can-o'-duh set off nuclear bombs near these people? When was the last time the United States did this? Last week, last month, last year? I was under the impression the United States stopped nuclear testing decades ago. Then why concern yourself? See if you can right some wrongs in your own country. But feel free to send your money to John Pilger. It's a free country, eh?
    Last edited by Honky Tonk; July-16-19 at 10:23 AM.

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    If you guys keep on Chumpeting that the US is the top of the crop, the nec plus ultra of democracy, it's only fair game that I throw something at you. When one of your countrymen or women objects to non-progressive US policy, foreign or domestic, you are quick to turn them into Anti-American. So, what shall it be, free speech or what?

    By the way, the American bases in the Marshall Islands are still there and the Marshall Islanders are still maligned by the US. There.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    If you guys keep on Chumpeting that the US is the top of the crop, the nec plus ultra of democracy, it's only fair game that I throw something at you.
    canuck, You used to be content to call Trump cute but juvenile names like "Chump" but your posts are gradually morphing into general anti-Americanism. Half the people, on this side of the border, who didn't vote for Trump might appreciate your anti-Trump remarks but that percentage probably goes down when you, as a foreigner, take slaps at the U.S. like you did in your opening post. Your speech is fully protected by our 1st Amendment though. We don't have complicated and subjective "hate speech" laws here so you can let all your anti-American angst out if it becomes you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    canuck, You used to be content to call Trump cute but juvenile names like "Chump" but your posts are gradually morphing into general anti-Americanism. Half the people, on this side of the border, who didn't vote for Trump might appreciate your anti-Trump remarks but that percentage probably goes down when you, as a foreigner, take slaps at the U.S. like you did in your opening post. Your speech is fully protected by our 1st Amendment though. We don't have complicated and subjective "hate speech" laws here so you can let all your anti-American angst out if it becomes you.

    Oladub, this is just what I expected. The minute I contrasted the awfulness of deeds ordered by your government with claims of moral superiority (jingoistic) by Honky Tonk and Richard, I am considered Anti-American. Note the fact that the brunt of this is on your fella Americans more so than on Canucksitanis.

    Canuckistan, (and I am abusing this for relentless comic effect)
    also gets slapped by your fellow posters and compared to; as your president would say;"shitholes" or Venezuela, Puerto Rico, et al... anti-democratic socialist hells.

    There are indeed shithole countries, there are awful places in the world, much worse than the US and Canada ever were or ever will be, I hope. This doesn't mean calling out the bad deesd done by your government and perpetuated by it is an affront to the US. It doesn't shine a good light on your people, obviously, especially when all this fanfare goes on about Numero Uno, the greatest this, the biggest that, the longest...

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    If you guys keep on Chumpeting that the US is the top of the crop, the nec plus ultra of democracy, it's only fair game that I throw something at you. When one of your countrymen or women objects to non-progressive US policy, foreign or domestic, you are quick to turn them into Anti-American. So, what shall it be, free speech or what?

    By the way, the American bases in the Marshall Islands are still there and the Marshall Islanders are still maligned by the US. There.
    So you are shocked that some Americans are proud of thier country and support it.

    I do not consider you anti American,I consider you a Canadian that should love Canada first,just maybe a little disappointed when you choose to jump on bandwagons verses self thought,but I also understand the conditioning that you have gone through and take that into account.

    Once you lose that freedom of self thought,the only thing left is to follow.

    The president was stating the obvious in the shite hole countries,if you run a country pocketing billions while your people starve in the streets then yes here is your sign.

    Chavez grew up and entered office as a poor farmer,his children have over 200 million in known assets.

    His net worth on passing was over 1 billion.

    Some people have a problem hearing it like it is.

    While you may have concern of the treatment of the Marshall Islands,can you give me a update of what is going on with the indigenous people in your country that some are referring to as genocide.

    Thousands of missing women and children should be a concern,you think?

    Or how about covertly supplying arms to warlords that are creating genocide in other countries.

    Or are you thinking the thousands of automatic weapons just disappeared from the military, like they told you.

    I guess it is plausible that they just fell off of a ship and floated a continent away and washed up on the beach.

    There is no country in the world that can take the higher moral ground,it’s just the anti US rhetoric that turns a blind eye to thier sins to make light of ours.

    We are the biggest and greatest country in the world and we did what it took to stay that way,do not like it,that is your problem not ours,you can always build a wall up there and stay on that side of it.

    But we do kinda like having you around and if you could help kill the stranglehold on the pharmaceutical side of things and lighten the load on the healthcare side it would be appreciated,if not just export more whisky and we could all get drunk while the world collapses around us and not care.
    Last edited by Richard; July-16-19 at 01:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    Oladub, this is just what I expected. The minute I contrasted the awfulness of deeds ordered by your government with claims of moral superiority (jingoistic) by Honky Tonk and Richard, I am considered Anti-American. Note the fact that the brunt of this is on your fella Americans more so than on Canucksitanis.

    Canuckistan, (and I am abusing this for relentless comic effect)
    also gets slapped by your fellow posters and compared to; as your president would say;"shitholes" or Venezuela, Puerto Rico, et al... anti-democratic socialist hells.

    There are indeed shithole countries, there are awful places in the world, much worse than the US and Canada ever were or ever will be, I hope. This doesn't mean calling out the bad deesd done by your government and perpetuated by it is an affront to the US. It doesn't shine a good light on your people, obviously, especially when all this fanfare goes on about Numero Uno, the greatest this, the biggest that, the longest...
    I did not reference your responses to Honky Tonk and Richard. I referenced your opening post so don't try to blame it on them. Your last sentence in post #8 is another example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    I did not reference your responses to Honky Tonk and Richard. I referenced your opening post so don't try to blame it on them. Your last sentence in post #8 is another example.
    If you want more, I'll just quote this from the above post as sustantial.

    "We are the biggest and greatest country in the world and we did what it took to stay that way,do not like it,that is your problem not ours,you can always build a wall up there and stay on that side of it." Dick


    Dick, Canada is bigger than the US but is only second to Russia. Only saying. You're welcome to praise your country, I like the US too, but I'll tell it like it is. As far as Aboriginals go, yes, Canada can't boast about that, neither can the US, both slaughtered millions to bring in European and Eastern settlers throughout the West.

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    ^ you guys have like 36 million people,38th in population,compare more to Afghanistan,Peru,Saudi Arabi,Morocco not Russia.

    In comparison During WW2 Russian lost 28 million that they will recognize,if that was Canada you would have only had like 3 million left in your whole country.

    If that was the case we would have had to have compassion and dissolved Canada and allowed you guys to come here.

    Russia has a lot of land mass but how much of it really counts? Frozen waste land is okay if you are a moose but it really just kind of sits there so you really cannot count it as productive.

    Then they have thousands of acres that is now nuclear waste land and you really cannot count that.

    Granted at least your millions of acres of unusable land mass is quite beautiful or as us religious folk like to say,Gods country.

    So as much as it kills you we are bigger and greater and the greatest country in the world,we have a tendency to suck at a few things along the way but nobody is perfect.

    Get back to us when Russia or China parks a carrier task force off of your coast,who ya gonna call,Peru?

    But through it all and all of our military endeavors,right or wrong,Canada has been right there alongside of us,so I will give credit where it is due.

    I just wish you guys would have pressured Truman to stop the commies in China back then when they should have,then we would not have had Korea and Vietnam police actions,so you all do Kinda share the blame in that.

    You guys were also negligent in your responsibilities just like we were.

    But it shows that when we play the nice guy in the world it comes back and bites us in the rear end.

    So we will continue to play the game of overthrowing despot dictators,having little police actions in order to maintain operational readiness and trying to stop little things before they become big things and generaly being the assholes of the world,because when we did not do it before world wars had a habit of breaking out and these days the toys are not very nice comparatively.

    Guaranteed the ones chastising us about the screwed up way we do things will be calling us like a x wife on speed dial looking for payment when somebody gets aggressive towards them.

    There are some really nasty people in the world and sometimes you have to be just as nasty as them in order to maintain control or balance.

    No regrets,we do what we have to do.
    Last edited by Richard; July-16-19 at 03:24 PM.

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    Richard,

    Russia's habitable land mass is bigger than the U.S' by a long shot. But religious folks like you need to be deluded about a lot of things and are easily fooled. Mind boggling about your level of brainwashing.

    The rest of your rant is just as ridiculous as your stream of unconsciousness will allow.

    I just want to set you straight about something; try to untangle the meaning of accept vs except. They have contrary significance and you are using them indiscriminately. You should look up your Quran, the King James version of it has some nice linguistic flourishes from which you could learn to write.

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    doubloon post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    Richard,

    Russia's habitable land mass is bigger than the U.S' by a long shot. But religious folks like you need to be deluded about a lot of things and are easily fooled. Mind boggling about your level of brainwashing.

    The rest of your rant is just as ridiculous as your stream of unconsciousness will allow.

    I just want to set you straight about something; try to untangle the meaning of accept vs except. They have contrary significance and you are using them indiscriminately. You should look up your Quran, the King James version of it has some nice linguistic flourishes from which you could learn to write.

    You could have used less less words by just calling me a racist.

    I see you are jack step in line with elimination of those who do not meet your literary standards,no wonder you were so butt hurt in the progressives thread,hit a soft spot a?

    What happened to your war with China is it over with already,or did they get bogged down with Russia’s land mass?

    When exactly are you going to start feeding your starving school children or do you find it best to keep them hungry and weak during the conditioning process?
    Last edited by Richard; July-16-19 at 06:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    You could have used less less words by just calling me a racist.

    I see you are jack step in line with elimination of those who do not meet your literary standards,no wonder you were so butt hurt in the progressives thread,hit a soft spot a?

    What happened to your war with China is it over with already,or did they get bogged down with Russiaís land mass?

    When exactly are you going to start feeding your starving school children or do you find it best to keep them hungry and weak during the conditioning process?

    My two sons are in their twenties, and both of them are pretty massive 6'2" fellas. I think they had plenty of the right stuff to get them going.

    China-Canada war? Where didja get a holda that one Rick? Breibart Academy?

    That's it, I'm off to Ireland with the little family tomorrow. Another great place, small, but arguably one of the best countries on earth, one that managed to free itself from quasi-implacable rulers, and is now very progressive.

    Slažnte!

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    Your funny,where did I post anything about a China-Canada war and who is the Breibart Academy,I tried looking it up but you apparently spelled it incorrectly.

    What I did post was if China or Russia parked a carrier task force off of your coast you guys would be calling us,not they would even think about doing so because of your deterrent to the south.

    Have fun on your vacation to Ireland with a population of 4 million,at least find some country when using comparisons that are equally populated to our 325 million.

    They became the progressive darling when they embraced the LGBTQ community and recognized that the poor was living in squalor,they may currently embrace it because it is politically vote getting but let’s wait until the tab gets passed to the 50% that are working and they have to pay for the other half.

    Once they realize that it is a system that has been tried and failed everywhere else in the world they will have a change of reality.

    The politicians will be living in grand homes with fat bank accounts while everybody else is equally poor living in squalor.

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    The Irish people aren't living in squalor any more. But why
    would I expect you to know about that. They are doing pretty well with probably the highest per capita home ownership rate in the world. This is no thanks to the British brutality that resisted every attempt at home rule for a hundred fifty years. Now, with Brexit around the corner, they are getting a lot of new jobs in Finance that were based in London. Yes, Ireland has become more progressive and less prone to following the shenanigans of churchmongers.

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    ^ People are living in “absolute squalor” in inner city flats, according to Independent Councillor Mannix Flynn.

    “In Summerhill and Sean McDermott Street I remember going into houses where people were so poor they were actually burning the floorboards.
    “And these conditions, I have to say, are now very much the norm in these blocks of flats.”
    He added that people are living in “absolute squalor” because architectural conservationists refuse to demolish historic complexes

    https://lovindublin.com/news/squalor...ing-conditions

    So it would appear as though the brits had nothing to do with it.

    Notice the common theme amongst progressives to blame the evil government wars for everybody’s problems instead of the actual reasons?

    Did you not have a plane to catch?

    While on the plane also catch up on the actual Irish born that are now a minority and are a little pissed off that they are put in last place over current immigrants.

    Sounds familiar? Interesting enough a majority of thier immigrants are Chinese who escaped one country because of thier progressive control and now are trying to turn the country that they fled to into what they left.

    It shows,people conditioned to except that way of life cannot handle freedom of self thought when they seek it so they revert back to preferring the government to control every aspect of thier life.

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    There are a lot of council flats and subsidized low income individual houses in Dublin, there is still poverty and you will see the same in English cities. I lived in a pretty rough neighborhood in the eighties, got to see a lot of weird shit, like 2 eight year old kids breaking a car window to rob, etc...

    The Chinese were the first ethnic group in Ireland back then, and Irish cities gave become more cosmopolitan, and that is a good thing. It means that where they used to lose tens of thousands of educated youth people back when, they turned around and accepted hundreds of thousands of immigrants that enriched the country enormously. I know that for Chump followers like you, this is anathema. How do you think the US got o be that big?

    You see, there are many ways of looking at things, you may think that Spain or Portugal are the greatest place on earth, or the US, for different reasons. But I am not trying to telelobotomize you, it's already been done by the Bannon set.

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    ^ back to basics

    You do understand the difference between immigration and illegal immigration,correct?

    The only ones that have a problem with immigration are the ones that cannot understand what determines what illegal is,I understand it is rocket science,that is just liberal progressives lumping everything together in order to create drama,kinda like the whole kids drinking from toilets mentality.

    When you change everything in your country in order to appease immigrants you have lost your identity as a country and the very reason immigrants chose to come there in the first place.

    Thats as asinine as me moving to Canada and expecting you guys to change things around to cater to me,oooo and ditch the Canadian flag I will prefer to fly the Stars and Stripes while in my new home country.

    and grits and guns,you guys need to embrace grits and guns so I can feel more welcome,otherwise it could be viewed as racist against me because you do not want to except grits n guns.

    You really do not want to be seen as a racist against immigrants kinda of country would you?
    Last edited by Richard; July-17-19 at 04:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    ^ back to basics

    You do understand the difference between immigration and illegal immigration,correct?

    The only ones that have a problem with immigration are the ones that cannot understand what determines what illegal is,I understand it is rocket science,that is just liberal progressives lumping everything together in order to create drama,kinda like the whole kids drinking from toilets mentality.

    When you change everything in your country in order to appease immigrants you have lost your identity as a country and the very reason immigrants chose to come there in the first place.

    Thats as asinine as me moving to Canada and expecting you guys to change things around to cater to me,oooo and ditch the Canadian flag I will prefer to fly the Stars and Stripes while in my new home country.

    and grits and guns,you guys need to embrace grits and guns so I can feel more welcome,otherwise it could be viewed as racist against me because you do not want to except grits n guns.

    You really do not want to be seen as a racist against immigrants kinda of country would you?

    Yup,
    grits ní guns coming right upÖ with a bit of Maple bacon bits thrown on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post



    There is no country in the world that can take the higher moral ground,it’s just the anti US rhetoric that turns a blind eye to thier sins to make light of ours.
    Complete and utter BS

    We are the biggest and greatest country in the world.........
    Complete and utter BS

    ****

    Look I'm not going to bash the United States. But neither will abide mindless boosterism.

    I have no time for that by Canadians either.

    Nor do I rank Canada as the best country in the world, though on balance, I'm quite fond of it.

    The issue is not whether the United States is decent country and better than many.

    That much is self-evident and without dispute.

    Nor is the notion that other countries are without their flaws, indeed, some have deeper or more numerous flaws that the United States.

    So what?

    Who cares?

    What's objectionable is mindless 'mine is bigger than yours' dick-measuring.

    Beyond which, ranking countries is difficult to say the least as I don't think 10 Americans (or Canadians or diverse citizens of the world) could be expected to agree on an absolute criteria or how to weight said criteria.

    While there can not be an 'objective' best. Most of us could probably agree on some set of factors that we would all value.

    Life expectancy, low rate of violent crime, high rate of social mobility, high median household income, high cancer survival rate at 5 years post diagnosis, low levels of pollution, high labour standards (workplace safety, freedom from discrimination/harassment etc.) and a slew of other factors.

    While I don't think that list (or any other) can exist objectively (with weighting etc.); I can reasonably say that no such similar list, by anyone would rank the US #1.

    That doesn't mean bupkis in the real world, except that it makes your bragging rather hollow and that much more obnoxious.

    Btw,

    Life Expectancy in the US, 29th in the world.

    https://data.oecd.org/healthstat/lif...ndicator-chart

    Infant Mortality in the US 34th in the world, just behind Russia.

    https://data.oecd.org/healthstat/inf...ndicator-chart

    Homicide Rate, the US is 143rd lowest is the world! Just below Zambia and Sudan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ate#By_country

    And so on. The US does so much better in some categories but in very few is in top 5.

    That doesn't make it a bad country, it does make people who mindlessly yell 'we're number one' look foolish.
    Last edited by Canadian Visitor; July-18-19 at 12:23 AM.

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    ^ would you like some good ole American,processed with the finest vegetable oil available,cheese to go with that whine?

    Its not dick measuring,you have 32 million worth of little dick and we have 325 million worth of big dick,no comparison.

    America is great,it is the best and will always be as long as we can keep the socialist commies at bay.

    You can do your part by bringing enough busses to carry all the people at the border risking thier life to get into this country.

    Just tell them how screwed up America is compared to Canada and I am sure they will be tripping over themselves to get on those busses.

    I notice Canada has not offered to absorb some of them or offer them sanctuary in the land of milk and honey of Canada.But your fellow Canuckians sure like to voice thier opinions on how we should deal with them from the cheap seats.

    Not in my back yard. Eh?

    Whats the matter? You do not want them? That’s racist,what kind of a country are you guys running up there anyways?

    I bet cha if I started a fundraiser to cover the transport to bring them to Canada they would get there quicker so you guys can enjoy thier company.

    You write about bragging but between you and Nukky you two sure seem to like to tell us how to fix our broken down country with your high tax socialist programs that do not even work in your own country.

    But that is okay because freedom of speech is still a right in this country,so carry on.

    Now, about those illegals????? Is your country going to show us how it is done by throwing open your borders?

    Bet not.

    America is great,I love my country and I could give a rats tail what you or anybody else in the world thinks,and if you as a Canadian do not feel the same way about your country then that’s your country’s cross to bear.

    But I do meet a lot of snowbird Canadians that love thier country and think thier country is the greatest,just without the snow,and that is the way it should be,you got life phucked up if you think I am going to sit here and disrespect my own country,just because you see a few idiots on the television trying to get thier 15 minutes showing disrespect,it does not meen the rest of the country feels the same way.

    When one instills pride in ones country they have a tendency to want to be a part of it,the more that want to be a part of it the greater it becomes.

    The President says this country is great,that is his job,right away he attacked by the people who do not want to do thier part in making it great they just want to bitch about how bad it is so they really do not have to do thier part in keeping it great or even making it greater.

    It was said - ask not what your country can do for you,ask what you can do for your country.

    The common theme as of late has been what has America done or provided for me lately.

    In this country you are provided with opportunity and the pursuit of happiness,you do not get it for a Christmas present and it is not the governments job to provide it,you have to want it and work for it and millions of Americans of all races achieve that everyday although some prefer to keep you believing that it is not possible,so you do not even try.
    Last edited by Richard; July-17-19 at 11:01 PM.

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    You're making an utter fool of yourself, self spank and wake up to your silliness.

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