Detroit Michigan needs Competency

[O3H]

Too many in Michigan simply don't work at all, have no higher education, and many jobs simply don't pay much at all.

Who exactly is shopping in Detroit, going to the restaurants, bars, clubs
and spending that expendable income so others can grab it ?



https://www.bridgemi.com/guest-comme...good-11-slides

[Atticus]

Too many in Michigan simply don't work at all, have no higher education, and many jobs simply don't pay much at all.

Who exactly is shopping in Detroit, going to the restaurants, bars, clubs
and spending that expendable income so others can grab it ?





https://www.bridgemi.com/guest-comme...good-11-slides

A lot has to do with the brain drain. Those with a college education tend to leave, while those without almost all stay here. Factor in that the state is very segregated by income, and you get a situation where those who grew up in lower income situations tend to stay that way.

[Worldsgreatest]

is there an hour of the day where you're not making a new thread?

[313WX]

A lot has to do with the brain drain. Those with a college education tend to leave, while those without almost all stay here. Factor in that the state is very segregated by income, and you get a situation where those who grew up in lower income situations tend to stay that way.

You need a large, diverse supply of good-paying jobs in order to stem the brain drain.

Of course, that's a chicken vs. egg problem.

[Meddle]

What's needed is good paying jobs that don't require going thousands of dollars in debt to enrich some establishment's coffers.

Trade Schools, not those other places. With all the construction and renovation, the apprenticeship programs should be buzzing.

[Bigb23]

is there an hour of the day where you're not making a new thread?

My sentiments exactly.

To add to the thread, I spent thousands of classroom hours to get ahead in the Detroit area, M code programming,Machining, AutoCad, CATIA, Solidworks, Cadkey, and Unigraphics.
The interior of your car was built by a machine designed and built by me.

During the recession of 08 and 09, Visteon and Delphi tanked, and I had to finally retire in 2012. Everybody from the top on down was knocked down several levels, and took any job just to survive. People like me went to the wayside. I was screwed.

[ggores]

You need a large, diverse supply of good-paying jobs in order to stem the brain drain.

Of course, that's a chicken vs. egg problem.

Holy shit. Thought I was reliving 1982 all over again, upon reading this thread [[interesting by the way), except there was internet. Wow.

I'll take a leap and say that this same discussion, among numerous others, will be repeated in, say, 2044.

Full disclosure - I do not read any links posted here, so I may be missing something. But, so far as Jay Oh Bee's.... they are out there. Good one's too - Carpenters, construction, electricians, welders... eh.... I best shut up :-)

[O3H]

Gee I'm sorry - does reading hurt your head, does it cause intense pain ?
Only the threads other people start are worthy of your eyes.
Grow the F' Up and understand news is all around you, continually, nonstop. Read daily, that's every day, 7 days a week, all year long.


Detroit needs to invest in PEOPLE. Skip the other glitz, gab, flash, trash.

[Detroit]

Gee I'm sorry - does reading hurt your head, does it cause intense pain ?
Only the threads other people start are worthy of your eyes.
Grow the F' Up and understand news is all around you, continually, nonstop. Read daily, that's every day, 7 days a week, all year long.


Detroit needs to invest in PEOPLE. Skip the other glitz, gab, flash, trash.

So other than filling your lonely days with creating posts about what you read, what are YOU going to do to help Detroit accomplish what you say needs to happen? Or, are you just posting about the things you read for our benefit? I don't think many of us are interested if you are doing it on our behalf.

[Bigb23]

Gee I'm sorry - does reading hurt your head, does it cause intense pain ?

TIL - Yes, sometimes several times a day, O3H.

You have more maps and graphs than a cruel fifth grade teacher.

[O3H]

Some know how to work a 'puter, others don't.

[Pam]

is there an hour of the day where you're not making a new thread?

I can usually tell which threads are his, just by reading the titles.

[O3H]

Should I dumb them down , and parrot an already used title ?

Here you go Pam

Why Michigan’s economic ‘good times’ aren’t that good, in 11 slides

Michigan is 31st in per-capita income;
an even lower 33rd in employment earnings per capita;
38th in the proportion of those 16 and older who work;
and 31st in the proportion of those 25+ with a four-year degree.

Try this as a title - Too many idiots who don't work

[313WX]

I can usually tell which threads are his, just by reading the titles.

I thought it was just me.

I always say to myself "This must be another O3H production," lol.

[Honky Tonk]

Should I dumb them down , and parrot an already used title ?

Here you go Pam

Why Michigan’s economic ‘good times’ aren’t that good, in 11 slides

Michigan is 31st in per-capita income;
an even lower 33rd in employment earnings per capita;
38th in the proportion of those 16 and older who work;
and 31st in the proportion of those 25+ with a four-year degree.

Try this as a title - Too many idiots who don't work

That's too bad, 03H, what would you like me to do about it? I have been and still am, driving through pot holes and depressions, damaging my vehicle, to get to work to pay the highest per child education taxes in the nation. Every time there's a tax increase, a portion of it goes for education. Besides posting links, graphs, charts, and being the self-appointed town cryer, what's your solution to this? Maybe I should start tutoring "in my spare time"? Maybe vote in another tax increase, you know, "for education"? What? Because whatever they're doing with the money, it ain't working.

[Bigb23]

Thank you Google - Canadian Goose diapers are 25% off at Target.

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[MikeM]

is there an hour of the day where you're not making a new thread?

I want to see the list of cities/states that don't need competency. I should start a thread that claims "people need food".

[O3H]

Let me hear what you folks are doing,
so I don't step on any toes or ruffle feathers on those projects ?

[Detroit Stylin]

I want to see the list of cities/states that don't need competency. I should start a thread that claims "people need food".

That wont be necessary. Clearly its only Detroit, and by "Detroit", you generally know what people mean. Just remember our long lost buddy Karl

[stasu1213]

Companies are having second thoughts to consider Detroit as a place to set up shop. The council is setting up a decree saying that companies will have to hire 51% of local Detroiters if these companies want to have offices or second headquarters inside the city. Many Detroiters don't have the talents required to work these high tech jobs. Those Detroiters who have college degrees find themselves going out of town or even out of state for places of employements. I would do the same thing if I were a young college graduate with a degree. I feel that Gilbert and others want to flirt with these companies to consider Detroit but those on council and others in city government has this "No fly zone"unless incompetent local Detroiters will be first on the list for employement. Reopen trade schools that have to classes where local Detroiters can learn skills to work for these companies. Don't need a college degree but some type of certificate stating that one had went for some type of training to compete for the job openings. Let's get the companies in Detroit first and maybe some of these companies could have apprentiship programs for Detroiters such as the Chrysler plant on Jefferson once had a few years back. Focus on making Detroiters competent then maybe Sheffield and company could demand that 51% of Detroiters should be the first on the list for hire.

[O3H]

If the society builds itself a strong base of Bachelor of Science degrees,
- then the companies will be more apt to consider locating here.

A report in 2011 that said 47% of Detroit's adults were functionally illiterate. OUCH !!!!!!!

Anyone remember this :
Students in Detroit Are Suing the State Because They Weren’t Taught to Read
** A federal judge has concluded that the Constitution
** doesn't require schools to promote students’ literacy.

https://www.theatlantic.com/educatio...terate/564545/

Personally, to the hell with skyscrapers, and building shit,
focus on the people in the region and it will begin to prosper.

[Gistok]

Personally, to the hell with skyscrapers, and building shit,
focus on the people in the region and it will begin to prosper.

There you have it... you're on the wrong forum....

[O3H]

Where all things great and small regarding the
Fabulous Detroit-Windsor International Metropolis are Discussed.

I'm just fine Gistok

[Richard]

Companies are having second thoughts to consider Detroit as a place to set up shop. The council is setting up a decree saying that companies will have to hire 51% of local Detroiters if these companies want to have offices or second headquarters inside the city. Many Detroiters don't have the talents required to work these high tech jobs. Those Detroiters who have college degrees find themselves going out of town or even out of state for places of employements. I would do the same thing if I were a young college graduate with a degree. I feel that Gilbert and others want to flirt with these companies to consider Detroit but those on council and others in city government has this "No fly zone"unless incompetent local Detroiters will be first on the list for employement. Reopen trade schools that have to classes where local Detroiters can learn skills to work for these companies. Don't need a college degree but some type of certificate stating that one had went for some type of training to compete for the job openings. Let's get the companies in Detroit first and maybe some of these companies could have apprentiship programs for Detroiters such as the Chrysler plant on Jefferson once had a few years back. Focus on making Detroiters competent then maybe Sheffield and company could demand that 51% of Detroiters should be the first on the list for hire.

I think that is a part of the whole socialist aspect where everybody is guaranteed a job qualified or not.

Clearly there is a lack of skilled trade based labor pool to draw from,the expirenced ones would be already working.

If they dropped it down to 20% to be hired as a helper position offset by a drop in city worker tax reduction then backed up by city sponsored skills training programs.

For instance the company hires the helper,they work with the electricians and decide they like another trade instead,then when they go into the program after that they will be more interested in what they are selecting,that way time and monies are not wasted on training that one is not interested in.

It should be about motivation first,forcing somebody to hire somebody just for the sake of hiring them and putting them on the payroll is what the mob does,the city is not supposed to be in the mob buisness.

But what would happen is if a company is looking for workers and somebody enters under the 20% program and they prove productive, the company is going to hire them anyways and take them under the wing.

No matter what program 51% or 20% the ability to force companies to hire somebody that does not want to work or shows no motivation and is just dead weight is going to be detrimental to the city.

[O3H]

It's NOT a socialist agenda to want intelligent people in a region.

Why would anyone want a bunch of illiterate, idiots, as a workforce ?