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    Stosh Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorax View Post
    Batts would have been the poster child for the John Birch Society. Overly starched Brooks Brothers button down stripe shirt with a red tie, preaching the gospel of free-market capitalism.

    Truly a Zona Comatosa.
    I'd picture him more along the lines of a guy wearing sackcloth, with a tattoo of Rush and Hannity making out on one arm, Rand and Reagan getting it on on the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    "Brilliant Sociologist" whereby his utopian societal experiments have always failed and caused incalculable suffering and oppression...brilliantly wrong.
    You would be talking about the political and economic ends of Marx's writing.

    Observing the structure of a thing is very different from attempting to re-engineer it.

    This is the failure of many people who attempt to apply concepts learned from social science as though society functioned under the same laws as chemistry or physics. Humans have cognition, and this makes them much more difficult to understand and predict than most of the natural world.

    It's difficult for the ordered mind to accept that even when presented with all the relevant information and consequences, people still make choices that undermine their own best interests and/or the best interests of society at large. Sometimes the majority of people will even make such choices.

    consider the following example:


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    Quote Originally Posted by humanmachinery View Post
    You would be talking about the political and economic ends of Marx's writing.

    Observing the structure of a thing is very different from attempting to re-engineer it.

    This is the failure of many people who attempt to apply concepts learned from social science as though society functioned under the same laws as chemistry or physics. Humans have cognition, and this makes them much more difficult to understand and predict than most of the natural world.

    It's difficult for the ordered mind to accept that even when presented with all the relevant information and consequences, people still make choices that undermine their own best interests and/or the best interests of society at large. Sometimes the majority of people will even make such choices.

    consider the following example:

    Now that was a remarkably good post! Quality is inspiring, and I wish I'd said it first. I like the way you think humanmachinery.

    Thanks for that one humanmachinery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stosh View Post
    I'd picture him more along the lines of a guy wearing sackcloth, with a tattoo of Rush and Hannity making out on one arm, Rand and Reagan getting it on on the other.
    LOL!!!!

    Excellent, and a good visual.

    Although, sackcloth is too "sensible shoe lesbian" for him, I'm thinking double knit polysester suit, male pattern baldness with a comb-over and fringe, cheap glasses-you know, more of a Les Nesman/Herb Tarlec meets televangelist.

    Or any members of the Republican Caucus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    East Detroit...please explain how capitalists were responsible for the failures of communism and socialism. I could use a good laugh.
    Learn to read, first, with an open mind. Then I'll take requests.

    Meanwhile, I'm just free-form jabbing holes in your simplistic binary expressions.

    I don't have the 21.7 posts per day that you do but you're obviously not working at a higher level of cognitive intellect while still believing your opinions to be more than incomplete, so it's mildly entertaining to bat you around [[so to speak) when waiting for code to compile, water to boil or iTunes to load a CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East Detroit View Post
    ... when waiting for code to compile, water to boil or iTunes to load a CD.
    I can relate.

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    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist."
    - Don Helder Camara

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    Give the poor an opportunity to make themselves not poor via liberty and freedom, then the premise of this fortune cookie quote from Camara is moot.

  9. #34
    Stosh Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Give the poor an opportunity to make themselves not poor via liberty and freedom, then the premise of this fortune cookie quote from Camara is moot.
    Went right over your head, as usual.

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    ccbatson Guest

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    Sublimating again Stosh?

  11. #36
    Stosh Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Sublimating again Stosh?
    Hardly. That would assume that you even had a head worth the while.

    You seem to have a proclivity for the seamy side of things don't you?

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    ccbatson Guest

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    Now you are babbling as well as making a personal attack...best to back off and cool down.

  13. #38
    Stosh Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Now you are babbling as well as making a personal attack...best to back off and cool down.
    Why? You started the discourse about sublimating. Not I. Better back off yourself.

    In order for others to understand how CC manipulates discussions, let's illustrate the word use:

    In psychology, sublimation is a term coined by Friedrich Nietzsche which was eventually used to describe the spirit as a reflection of the libido.[1] It has its roots in the Nietzschean & psychoanalytical approach, and is sometimes also referred to as a type of defense mechanism.
    And thusly, he automatically jumps to the conclusion that I was speaking about THAT head, versus the one he reasons with. Mainly because that was what he was getting at with the backhanded slap about sublimation. Otherwise why even bother?
    Last edited by Stosh; September-06-09 at 02:27 PM.

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