Whitmers Blue Dress

**Richard** · February-16-19, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by softailrider

That’s right, Warren Buffet wears cheap suits, drives a 15 year old Cadillac, has been living in the same modest house for decades but flys around in his own private jet. I think all the talk about his frugality is a bunch of bullshit.

I do not know,is a jet cheaper then maintaining multiple staffed offices and massive towers,a house one pretty much spends most of the time sleeping in so size in that case proably does not matter,it is unlikely a national salesman would be tooling around to meetings on a Vespa,so in his case it could be more economical to jet around.

As much money as he has made investors in the past he could proably show up in a 20 year old blue dress and nobody would care.

Disclaimer,I use his company for commercial insurance,because it was cheaper then private car insurance.

**313WX** · February-16-19, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by canuck

...your comment implied you didn't find her to be good looking...

That may be true. But that doesn't mean I think negatively of her looks.

**canuck** · February-16-19, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

That may be true. But that doesn't mean I think negatively of her looks.

I respect your expression. I also think if you had refrained from a sidewinding comment on her physical appearance and chosen to comment on her choice of garment as a no go, it might have looked better.

What is worse, really? To comment on someone's choice of a dress, or her physical appearance?

As participants in a social forum, we are all now doing what caricaturists or political commenters, or fashion editorialists have been doing for millenia, em... I mean Melania.

If a politician can't take the comment on her dress, than she won't be handling the other, denser stuff that comes her way.
I woudln't tell someone, anyone really that their choice of dress is poor, unless I knew the person well, and surmised that the comment wouldn't hurt the person in question.

But a politician has to be groomed or helped along to understand that their presentation is important in delivering a message. Likewise, the target of caricature, and other commentary is fair game unless really insulting. I don't think less of your Governor, in spite of this minor glitch, which I assign to inexperience. Besides, she is a looker. I can say that.

**canuck** · February-16-19, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

I do not know,is a jet cheaper then maintaining multiple staffed offices and massive towers,a house one pretty much spends most of the time sleeping in so size in that case proably does not matter,it is unlikely a national salesman would be tooling around to meetings on a Vespa,so in his case it could be more economical to jet around.

As much money as he has made investors in the past he could proably show up in a 20 year old blue dress and nobody would care.

Disclaimer,I use his company for commercial insurance,because it was cheaper then private car insurance.

I tend to be more environmentally conscious these days, so I use my private jet less and less.

**jcole** · February-16-19, 02:57 PM

I don't see a post you made that refers to her bellybutton.

Originally Posted by Maof

Yes, it's visible as she was walking in or out of the auditorium. At least that's what I thought it was. Go back to my previous post.

**313WX** · February-16-19, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by canuck

Besides, she is a looker. I can say that.

And again, I can say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

**canuck** · February-16-19, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

And again, I can say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

You can say that again, which you did. lol

**Maof** · February-16-19, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by jcole

I don't see a post you made that refers to her bellybutton.

click on the free press article i posted and scroll down. there should be a picture.

**jcole** · February-16-19, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Maof

Yes, it's visible as she was walking in or out of the auditorium. At least that's what I thought it was. Go back to my previous post.

OK, I saw it now, but I honestly believe that this is because of the way that dress photographs.

**Richard** · February-16-19, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by canuck

I tend to be more environmentally conscious these days, so I use my private jet less and less.

Whatever he flys in,whether his or not,the same amount of fuel is being burned and if people were really that invironmentally conscious they would take the train and not fly.

He actually owns NetJets,which is a shared ownship company so he does not really have a personal private jet.

So was the blue dress made with invironmental friendly materials?

**Smirnoff** · February-17-19, 08:01 AM

Big Moustaffa clearly expressed she looked fine in the dress before & after she ate the 5# burrito.....

**Jimaz** · February-17-19, 08:18 AM

If a governor's wardrobe is Michigan's worst problem, we must be doing very well indeed.

Yea, Michigan! <sigh>

**Zacha341** · February-17-19, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Maof

click on the free press article i posted and scroll down. there should be a picture.

Yep, shadow is visible. She's not a model-thin woman, no. But certainly not obese! Cameras add 10 or 15 joyful lbs to everyone.

Since women continue to judged by different standards than men [[and no, I'm not a third-wave feminist --

--) a fitted, short black tailored jacket, buttoned mid-drift over the dress would have concealed this. Dresses that cling showcase alot. Short black jacket, buttoned = no b-b shadow.

PS. Nice dress IMO - wouldn't mind having in my wardrobe...

https://www.freep.com/story/news/pol...ch/2873299002/

**Richard** · February-17-19, 11:53 AM

At least she did dress like a lady,it seems like usually women are more critical of what other women wear.

With most men some nice stockings and a little cleavage and she could be wearing a burlap bag and it would not matter.

I agree with her sediment of out of shape men judging women but on the other hand one sees a lot of women with out of shape men.

Her curves message is a good one though,some do not perfer Twix sticks on legs and like they say,for every drop dead gorgeous woman there is somebody out there tired of her crap.Where the heart is lasts longer then ones subjective views.

**Meddle** · February-17-19, 12:26 PM

I wasn't around much back then .... did people get all flustered over Granny Jenny's frocks?

**Zacha341** · February-17-19, 12:35 PM

^^^ I remember hearing that. No pleasing anyone. Just wear a blazer pants suit and be done with it. Hah!

**Worldsgreatest** · February-17-19, 12:50 PM

People here saying she has a "pot belly" are creeping me out, keep that body shaming to yourself.

**softailrider** · February-17-19, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Meddle

I wasn't around much back then .... did people get all flustered over Granny Jenny's frocks?

I met her at that State of Michigan Building on the Blvd. Cadillac something or other, she was surprisingly tall. Didn’t look like there was an ounce of fat on that lady.

**jcole** · February-17-19, 04:32 PM

Governor Granholm generally wore a blouse and black blazer, so instead of picking at her wardrobe, they concentrated on shaming her for having a mole on her face.

**stasu1213** · February-17-19, 04:52 PM

I think that her blue dress looked nice on her. She is just a full figured woman who is and also dresses down to earth with no fanfare. Those are the qualities that I want in a Governor. It shows that he is all about business and not trying to win a fashion show or be on some type of glamour magazine.

**Jimaz** · February-17-19, 07:40 PM

At least she didn't wear a codpiece. Imagine the outrage!

**archfan** · February-18-19, 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by jcole

I have no idea what "Snyder's Scuba Outfit" is code for

Lol, no code, just a goofy campaign ad.

**jcole** · February-18-19, 09:08 AM

It wasn't the comments on her dress that she objected to; it was Fox2 doing a story on the comments and reposting them all, even anonymous ones, that were very insulting, including some about "nice cans" and then trying to pass it off as an anti-bullying story.

Originally Posted by canuck

I respect your expression. I also think if you had refrained from a sidewinding comment on her physical appearance and chosen to comment on her choice of garment as a no go, it might have looked better.

What is worse, really? To comment on someone's choice of a dress, or her physical appearance?

As participants in a social forum, we are all now doing what caricaturists or political commenters, or fashion editorialists have been doing for millenia, em... I mean Melania.

If a politician can't take the comment on her dress, than she won't be handling the other, denser stuff that comes her way.
I woudln't tell someone, anyone really that their choice of dress is poor, unless I knew the person well, and surmised that the comment wouldn't hurt the person in question.

But a politician has to be groomed or helped along to understand that their presentation is important in delivering a message. Likewise, the target of caricature, and other commentary is fair game unless really insulting. I don't think less of your Governor, in spite of this minor glitch, which I assign to inexperience. Besides, she is a looker. I can say that.