No one getting paid in Highland Park

**O3H** · February-09-19, 02:51 PM

Highland Park

Population: 10,955
Poverty rate: 49.0% [[top 10%)
2017 violent crimes per 100,000 people: 1,701 [[top 10%)
Median home value: $33,500 [[bottom 10%)

Highland Park, Michigan, ranks as the fifth worst city to live
in the country in part because it is the poorest American city
by a wide margin.

Highland Park’s median annual household income is $15,699,
nearly $42,000 lower than the U.S. median.
It is the only city in the nation in which most
households earn less than $20,000 a year.

Copyright 2019 by WDIV ClickOnDetroit

**313WX** · February-09-19, 03:08 PM

"Paid"....

**Seven&wyo** · February-09-19, 05:34 PM

No one[[reporting how they) getting paid in Highland Park. I don't know much about bankruptcy, but could HP benefit from declaring it like Detroit? I understand the current administration for Detroit is better then HP's, but would it at least open some doors? Is HP just out of options or is there widespread corruption that needs to be brought up?

**Ray1936** · February-09-19, 05:38 PM

Highland Park and Hamtramck should never have existed in the first place. Were I the King of Time, all of the tri-county area would have become the City of Detroit.

Maybe Livingston county also, but I'm not too sure about Monroe.

[[Hey, put the arrows back! Just havin' fun!)

**Bigdd** · February-09-19, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Seven&wyo

is there widespread corruption that needs to be brought up?

There WAS massive corruption there 20-35 years ago. And so the businesses that were still there all left. [[My dad had a couple businesses there. We had to just walk away. The City made it clear they didn't want business.

At one point there were 50,000 + people living in HP,.. some 20,000 or more working and paying city income taxes. Now there's only 10,000 LIVING there,.. and only about 600 are working age, employed and paying income taxes. A lot of what's left are seniors, who of course don't pay much if any of HP's 2% City income tax.

And few pay seem to property taxes.

It's a tough go,.. and there's no light at the end of the tunnel I fear.

**O3H** · February-09-19, 09:00 PM

If most people are making just minimal ordinary laborer wages in that city
than that would explain the poverty level .
Money makes the economy operate and if it isn't there, it fails miserably.

**Wesley Mouch** · February-09-19, 10:08 PM

I missed the news story. So what's happening here?

**Honky Tonk** · February-10-19, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by Wesley Mouch

I missed the news story. So what's happening here?

Someone posted something half-assed and now everyone's giving their opinions on what it means.

**renf** · February-10-19, 07:59 AM

Highland Park has had emergency managers and the public schools were
taken over by the state. The problems of Highland Park - and many other
Michigan cities - illustrate the need for our new government to develop
innovative plans to finance local government and local schools. There are, however, two historic neighborhoods in Highland Park with potential to
attract residents. If commuter rail service to Pontiac is reestablished, there could be a stop in Highland Park was their was when the Grand Trunk ran the commuter trains.

**Lowell** · February-10-19, 08:42 AM

Please consider this when excoriating cities like Highland Park.

People living in poverty have to live somewhere. Unfortunately for them the cities with good schools, public safety and support systems are too expensive for them and they can't afford the mobility they require anyway.

As a result cities like Highland Park, with their surplus of decaying and inexpensive properties, are their only options. These struggling cities get stuck caring for the region's impoverished. These citizens typically cannot add much to the cities' revenues and far more often add to the costs as crime, disease and blight are well-know outcomes of poverty.

I lived in Highland Park most of my adult life. I could keep up my property, send my kid to the Catholic school and pay my taxes, as could many of my neighbors. But we were not enough in face of the disproportionate load of the impoverished our city carried--and others, who looked down on us, didn't.

Add to that our city had to carry pension obligations that gobbled up a quarter of the city's declining revenues, right off the top. This was paid out to a large retired public servant workforce granted generous benefits when the city was over 50,000 and largely middle class, with generous corporate contributions from the Chrysler HQ, Ford, Excello and more. None of those retirees lived in the city, none of those company remained and, as the population plummeted, so did state revenue sharing.

I urge all who decry cities like Highland Park to consider the impossibilities of that math and have a heart.

**O3H** · February-10-19, 10:37 AM

It would ""appear"" that many barely made it out of high school,
never attempted to further their education, and therefore income earning.
--When a majority of the population in 1 place does this, it is a disaster.
No money in, means no money out, and the community caves in on itself.

Nearly 11,000 people with a median annual household income is $15,000 ???

That's a FAILURE in society , of the immediate region, and it cries out FOUL

**O3H** · February-10-19, 10:41 AM

AND for the assholes, derelicts and dumbasses
that need EVERYTHING handed to them on a silver platter,
and then spoon fed to them like a 2 year old

https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-a...-to-live-in-us

THERE is the link your lazy pathetic ass was UNable to ascertain
from the world wide internet for a place like Detroit, Channel 4, WDIV

If you NEED a second link because you truly are a lazy turd
https://247wallst.com/special-report...to-live-in/11/

**bragaboutme** · February-10-19, 12:16 PM

Let's not forget Highland Park is part of Oakland County. LBP needs to be held accountable.

**cassique** · February-10-19, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by bragaboutme

Let's not forget Highland Park is part of Oakland County. LBP needs to be held accountable.

Am I missing something here? Are you thinking Hazel Park?

**DetroiterOnTheWestCoast** · February-10-19, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by O3H

AND for the assholes, derelicts and dumbasses
that need EVERYTHING handed to them on a silver platter,
and then spoon fed to them like a 2 year old

https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-a...-to-live-in-us

THERE is the link your lazy pathetic ass was UNable to ascertain
from the world wide internet for a place like Detroit, Channel 4, WDIV

If you NEED a second link because you truly are a lazy turd
https://247wallst.com/special-report...to-live-in/11/

Looks like someone is a bit defensive about having not followed the standard practice of including a link to source that is being referenced.

**Honky Tonk** · February-10-19, 12:55 PM

Will Highland Park be left behind in 5G ?

**313WX** · February-10-19, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by bragaboutme

Let's not forget Highland Park is part of Oakland County. LBP needs to be held accountable.

Since when?

**O3H** · February-10-19, 03:08 PM

It is a forum - not a news site - NO references needed to post anything

Discussion, debate, throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks

It is up to the readers to determine the validity of statements
-- always has been, always will - aka do you own damn homework .
Many probably cheated off of others in high school, and it still shows now

For those that FAILED geography - ask a neighbor about county boundaries

**Scottathew** · February-10-19, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by O3H

It is a forum - not a news site - NO references needed to post anything

I think the point earlier was that I don't understand what you mean by "No one getting paid in Highland Park".

Does this mean that there is an issue with the city paying its workers? Is it a commentary on unemployment in Highland Park?

Is it just a reminder that Highland Park exists and some general population stats?

You have given us very little context about what you may be referencing. Context can be important!

**O3H** · February-10-19, 03:37 PM

It is straight forward, in English, first post, clear as day.
Reading comprehension wtf ! Perhaps the bigger issue in metro Detroit

Highland Park’s median annual household income is $15,699

**Dexlin** · February-10-19, 04:16 PM

Have you not guessed that people see how disingenuous and negative you are? You get what you give; you add nothing of any value to this forum. The irony of you posting about the value of others. lol

**Gistok** · February-10-19, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by O3H

It is straight forward, in English, first post, clear as day.
Reading comprehension wtf ! Perhaps the bigger issue in metro Detroit

Highland Park’s median annual household income is $15,699

Geeze can you be any more annoying on this forum? I've been here almost 20 years... and you won't ingratiate yourself here with your condescending posts. I know you've posted here before under your previous water/sewage reincarnation named Willi... so you should have learned from that experience.

Adding a link to your new forum topic is the way it's been done here for a long long time.

**renf** · February-10-19, 05:07 PM

Thanks for your thoughtful post Lowell

**townonenorth** · February-10-19, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by cassique

Am I missing something here? Are you thinking Hazel Park?

I was thinking the same thing when I read that statement.

**Lowell** · February-10-19, 05:55 PM

I think members of this forum are asking, what is your point? Better yet what is your solution? It is well-known that Highland Park has long faced serious challenges, particularly by the highly-informed members of this forum. It has appeared on "Worst of" click-bait listicles forever. Very old stale news.

Interestingly enough I think Highland Park is in line to benefit from the Detroit's recovery which is creeping north along Woodward. Already the Northend neighborhood to the south has heated up and the Boston-Edison belt has been hot for three or four years now. I track Highland Park real estate on Zillow and prices in the 400+ house SE historic district and elsewhere have been steadily rising.