The Honduran Elephant In The Room

[Meddle]

If you see any of them in tanks or APCs or carrying RPGs or or shoulder fired missiles, get back to me. Otherwise hush-up Donnie.

[Honky Tonk]

If you see any of them in tanks or APCs or carrying RPGs or or shoulder fired missiles, get back to me. Otherwise hush-up Donnie.

I'll let you know Meddle. You'll have plenty of time to put your tail between your legs and run.

[Richard]

They are reporting that the next wave is forming in El Salvador,if we do not nip it in the butt now it will reach a not so nice breaking point.

They do not need to carry RPG,s or tanks,a vest under the shirt works well,they already have enough connections in the stateside to get what they need.

[oladub]

"October 24 at 9:57 AM
HUIXTLA, Mexico — Thousands of Central American migrants renewed their hoped-for march to the United States on Wednesday, setting out before dawn with plans to travel another 45 miles [[75 kilometers) of the more than 1,000 miles that still lie before them."

45 miles in one day seems unrealistically ambitious on foot.

Meanwhile, silence is consent for any Democrats ignoring this economic invasion of an estimated 7-14,000 would be criminals. Democrat have tried to push their talking point that U.S. policy is responsible but that ignores that the largest contributor of refugees in Latin America is Venezuela. As true refugees, Venezuelans mostly migrate to adjacent countries. If some Obama judge overrides Trump and opens the borders, tens or hundreds of thousands of more criminals might follow to displace low income American workers and soak up educational, healthcare, and other funding intended for Americans. Tucker Carlson asked Jorge Ramos how many he would invite to live in his house. Ramos ducked the question. Maybe Meddle, Jimaz, Maof and others here could answer the same question. Even Canuck could volunteer to sponsor a couple in Canada.

[Zacha341]

You sound so mean, full of hate, and judgement... like a trumpster......

On the serious note, nope no one is looking at the impact on this country. Do you really, REALLY think the ultra rich dem-elite want this at their door step?

HECK NO!

It's to be rolled off to the rank-and-file, and the ever shrinking middle-class. This is revenge politics gone wild!

In the meantime the US dollar continues to shrink, onward by the TRUMP admin. Let the presses and the good times roll!

If some Obama judge overrides Trump and opens the borders, tens or hundreds of thousands of more criminals might follow to displace low income American workers and soak up educational, healthcare, and other funding intended for Americans...

[Honky Tonk]

You sound so mean, full of hate, and judgement... like a trumpster......

On the serious note, nope no one is looking at the impact on this country. Do you really, REALLY think the ultra rich dem-elite want this at their door step?

HECK NO!

It's to be rolled off to the rank-and-file, and the ever shrinking middle-class. This is revenge politics gone wild!

In the meantime the US dollar continues to shrink, onward by the TRUMP admin. Let the presses and the good times roll!

You can bet your tushie NON of them will be moving in next door to any politicals in their neighborhoods. I got into a heated discussion about this last Saturday with a couple of friends, one from Royal Oak, one from Birmingham. Both are staunch liberals. Their contention was there's plenty of empty land in Detroit. I'm neither left or right, but I don't dump my problems on someone else.

[Zacha341]

^^^ Yes, just what Detroit needs...... There'll be a complaint and blow-back against the dem party should that happen.

And the Detroiters complaining will, eh, not exactly fit the 'white repub' in complexion, narrative or anything else!

[Meddle]

My guess is they'll magically turn around or simply disappear as if they were never really there to begin with on or about November 5th and Der Rumphf will claim victory whether or not he funded the whole thing initially.

[canuck]

My guess is they'll magically turn around or simply disappear as if they were never really there to begin with on or about November 5th and Der Rumphf will claim victory whether or not he funded the whole thing initially.

Yes, I mean the one thing the deplorables keep shouting at every Chump address is "Build that wall".

[Honky Tonk]

My guess is they'll magically turn around or simply disappear as if they were never really there to begin with on or about November 5th and Der Rumphf will claim victory whether or not he funded the whole thing initially.

Well, since they "magically" double and triple overnight, why not?

[Richard]

The 82nd airborne loaded up yesterday and headed to the border,a little close air support from the A-10 and they will do a u turn.

What is ironic?

In the northern province of China they have 12 camps that hold 15,000 people in each camp,barbed wire and century towers,they are building 10 more.

They have rounded up over 100,000 Muslims and political opponents,they put them into the camps under the guise of teaching them job skills,they just come day and night and pick up whole families and leave a government notice on the door saying that they are in good hands.

They are what is referred to as indoctrination camps,until you see the light of the Chinese way that is your new home.

Who pays for it all?

We as Americans do,every time we reach to the shelf and grab that made in China product we are directly Finianceing the very thing we oppose.

We guilty of turning a blind eye while allowing things to happen in order to save a dollar.

You guys refer to the current president as if he was Hitler,while you guys turn a blind eye no different then the German population did back then,you are just as complacent as they were.

His job is to protect this country and its borders,I hope he does it by any means necessary.

For people to sit there and mock the very country that they seek protection from is disgusting,just as our fellow Americans supporting them are mocking those who have given their lives in service to protect this country from the evil that was and the evil that is being created.

[Meddle]

Turning a blind eye is exactly how Adolph was allowed to come to power.

Rounding people up in the night and putting them in camps ..... why does that sound familiar? Oh yeah, Herr Donny's doin' it.

[Richard]

^ if that was the reality of it two things would be fact,

we we would not be allowed to post our viewpoints on a public forum.
we would all be in camps by now for posting our views on a public forum.

The rest is self imposed creating situations in ones mind that do not exist.

Ice and DHS are doing exactly what they are paid to do,do not enter illegally and follow the laws that every other American is required to do and you have nothing to worry about.

If you miss a required court date a warrent will be issued for your arrest,no difference.

Do you lock your house doors at night? Why?

Maybe because you do not want somebody entering without being invited?

[oladub]

Trying to keep track of this procession is more difficult than expected. On Wednesday, it was passing through Mapastepec with 336 hours of walking ahead to Reynosa. I can't find any map of where they are. CNBC is reporting that the Mexican government is claiming there are 3,600 left, Mexican police are removing some from vehicles, some have decided to go back home, and 1,700 have applied for asylum in Mexico. Heat and sickness are contributing to this withering. The Mexican government is not feeding or providing bathrooms except for those returning to Honduras or applying for asylum. If all this is true, this story won't have much impact on the election.

[Meddle]

Yet Donnie and his Acolytes will claim victory in thwarting a threat to the very existence of the US by convincing the invading horde to cease and desist.

[Richard]

Trying to keep track of this procession is more difficult than expected. On Wednesday, it was passing through Mapastepec with 336 hours of walking ahead to Reynosa. I can't find any map of where they are. CNBC is reporting that the Mexican government is claiming there are 3,600 left, Mexican police are removing some from vehicles, some have decided to go back home, and 1,700 have applied for asylum in Mexico. Heat and sickness are contributing to this withering. The Mexican government is not feeding or providing bathrooms except for those returning to Honduras or applying for asylum. If all this is true, this story won't have much impact on the election.

Last week Mexico arrested a couple of the main leaders,not sure if it was a cut off the head of the snake approach or not.

Mexico needs to build a wall and make Honduras pay for it.

[canuck]

Last week Mexico arrested a couple of the main leaders,not sure if it was a cut off the head of the snake approach or not.

Mexico needs to build a wall and make Honduras pay for it.

In keeping with the spirit of the multiplication of barricades and walls between countries ----

One of these days in the not so distant future, a new discipline at the Olympics will be; "Jumping over a boundary wall".

[oladub]

Yet Donnie and his Acolytes will claim victory in thwarting a threat to the very existence of the US by convincing the invading horde to cease and desist.

"Existence"? That's a stretch; maybe more like whatever happens to countries when traitors or economic opportunists do away with borders. China, after all, still existed after bribed officials opened China's wall's gates to Mongolian hordes.

At least a couple of Democrats aren't trying to duck the issue. Rep. Joe Kennedy and Senator Kamala Harris want to open the gates.

“We should not worry when the striving and suffering arrive on our shores; we should worry when they stop coming at all." "This is the trauma and torture that dark forces of nativism, supremacy, and prejudice have brought to bear in a land that staked its name on brighter, better things: equality, dignity and freedom." -Rep. Joe Kennedy

"Senator Kamala Harris made it sound as though it’d be un-American to turn the migrants away: “We are a country that—our strength has always been that we are a tolerant country, that we are welcoming, in particular, to those who have fled harm.”” -Politico
The invasion story isn't being covered much since all the non-working bombs were mailed. I couldn't find any news about where the economic invaders are and reports are that there are 4,500-10,000 still on their way.

UPDATE 10/26 pm: As of five hours ago, the caravan was in Pijijapan about 327 walking hours from Reynosa. That's taking the shorter route along the Gulf coast. It would be further, but if they travelled north through Mexico City, they might be showered with largess. In either case, they can't make the walk before the election.

[Richard]

In keeping with the spirit of the multiplication of barricades and walls between countries ----

One of these days in the not so distant future, a new discipline at the Olympics will be; "Jumping over a boundary wall".

And the winner will be a man that identifies as a woman for the edge.

Personaly we have locks on our doors,locks on our cars,security cameras,guns,dogs and anything else we can muster in order to protect our personal space,borders should be any different?

We could build a northern wall then Canada can introduce an open border policy as a test,so you can prove to us that it is the way to go.

Let me know when ya all start on that one.

[Zacha341]

When you break this down to personal interest [[withstanding nationalism) most people know open borders isn't the answer. It's not even practical. Immigration has to have criteria, that's basic.

But that reality has become distorted in politics. You're a 'trumpster' if you don't go along without question [[meet the new boss-same as the old boss). Even liberal Canada had to adapt their immigration policy over the years.

Most middle or the road [[not extreme partisan either way) people here in the US -- when all hoopla is not present -- know full-open borders without any discretion is unwise.

[Canadian Visitor]

Maybe true-d'oh! will step up and volunteer to take a few thousand off of our hands. Legalized prostitution, legalized pot, FREE healthcare, sounds like a match made in heaven! Start a petition @ your local bar. Bring it up to your prime menstruator. Plenty of room in the great white north, eh?

Your words and tone are full of hatred and mockery.

Is there something we as a country or our PM did to you or your country, that apparently only you are aware of?

Don't be such an ass.

[Canadian Visitor]

I completely agree with discouraging and ultimately enforcing rules against illegal immigration.

The United States is perfectly capable of doing that; first and foremost by clarifying that any employer who hires ANY employee has the affirmative obligation to ensure they have a Verified Social Security Number.

No number, no job.

A company caught in violation the rules is fined 100% of its net profit for the last 5 years, and seniors managers and shareholders with equity greater than 5% are personally liable. [[in the event of no profit a minimum of $100,000USD or 10% of gross revenue, which ever is greater.

Problem solved.

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Want to goose the result, stop making a royal hash of Honduras through US foreign policy.

http://theconversation.com/how-us-po...igration-65935

[Richard]

Your words and tone are full of hatred and mockery.

Is there something we as a country or our PM did to you or your country, that apparently only you are aware of?

Don't be such an ass.

What are the little letters that the youngsters use?

ROFLAMO

Ya might wanna ketch up on yer night time reading of Mr. Canucks posts,he already has yer southern border covered against the evil Americans.

[Honky Tonk]

Your words and tone are full of hatred and mockery.

Is there something we as a country or our PM did to you or your country, that apparently only you are aware of?

Don't be such an ass.

Speaking of being an ass, only an ass would walk into the middle of a conversation, cherry pick a post, then insult the poster. But I guess that's just a way of life in can-o'-duh, eh?

[Canadian Visitor]

What are the little letters that the youngsters use?

ROFLAMO

Ya might wanna ketch up on yer night time reading of Mr. Canucks posts,he already has yer southern border covered against the evil Americans.

Perhaps you could point me to where he said 'Evil Americans' or anything even remotely similar.

Anti-Trump is not Anti-American; disagreeing with one particular policy is not Anti-American. I don't see him personally insulting any other poster or the U.S.

There is a material difference.