The Honduran Elephant In The Room

**Richard** · December-20-18, 01:43 PM

^ along with the openly socialist agenda or whatever other concoction we can work up in our anti amercian minds in order to create something that is not there in order to create labels.

Everybody wants to be an admin so they can purge the forum of opposition and differing opinions,kinda like the things China and Russia does.

**jcole** · December-20-18, 02:13 PM

The real drawback to this donation scheme is as follows:

There's a whole US Treasury department for handling such donations.The Bureau of the Fiscal Service:
"Citizens who wish to make a general donation to the U.S. government may send contributions to a specific account called 'Gifts to the United States.'"
"This account was established in 1843 to accept gifts, such as bequests, from individuals wishing to express their patriotism to the United States. Money deposited into this account is for general use by the federal government and can be available for budget needs."
"These contributions are considered an unconditional gift to the government. ...

In other words, donations such as what the person who started the GoFundMe or whatever, are "unconditional" meaning that the donor cannot tell the government what to use the funds for. They go where the government WANTS them to go. So is someone is intending this money to go to the wall, they may be in for a big surprise. It could go to, say, funding the arts. Or medical insurance. Or a big party for the Fed. Congress controls the purse strings. Donors can't put conditions on donations or the Treasury dept can't accept it. So, by all means, let's raise that money for a wall and then see where it will actually go.

**Bham1982** · December-20-18, 03:39 PM

U.S. Treasury should donate all "wall contributions" to Planned Parenthood and National Endowment for the Arts, just because.

**aj3647** · December-20-18, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

^ along with the openly socialist agenda or whatever other concoction we can work up in our anti amercian minds in order to create something that is not there in order to create labels.

Everybody wants to be an admin so they can purge the forum of opposition and differing opinions,kinda like the things China and Russia does.

Like Russia does? That's cute coming from a Putin fanboy like you. A traitor like you isn't in a position to judge American's patriotism.

**Johnnny5** · December-20-18, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by aj3647

Would be nice if you also addressed the openly white supremacist and white nationalist rhetoric that gets regularly spewed here, but if you're cool with this place being Storm-Front DYes, then that's ultimately on you.

I'd be interested in seeing some of these posts. Do you happen to have any links?

**Richard** · December-21-18, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by aj3647

Like Russia does? That's cute coming from a Putin fanboy like you. A traitor like you isn't in a position to judge American's patriotism.

You actually have to act like an American,a majority what you talk about is pretty much anti American views.

Cute with the diversionary tactic,kinda like a Russian standing there saying "look there is a Russian" in order to draw attention away from themselves.

In case you have not been paying attention the cold war ended in the 80s,the only threat Russia is anymore to us is in the form you take with the usual propaganda and diversionary tactics.

They seem to have dropped the recruitment ball,I guess good help is hard to find.

Even at that,as much as you like to bring him up,I am thinking you have a man crush on him,I bet you have a poster of him riding the horse with no shirt on hanging on your wall.

**canuck** · December-21-18, 09:27 AM

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The only diversionary tactic I see are the lies that brought a bevy of people in the Chump administration to go to prison.

**aj3647** · December-21-18, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Johnnny5

I'd be interested in seeing some of these posts. Do you happen to have any links?

Sure, just look at Coracle's posting history, you'll see plenty of examples of him preaching the same white supremacist rhetoric you would find on Storm Front or any other neo-Nazi website.

Originally Posted by coracle

If it wasn’t for “White Nationalists” the rest of the world wouldn’t have Europe, North America and Australia to illegally send their failures to. [[with the explicit approval of UN)

I saw a recent report [[Breitbart) suggesting there are circa 750 Million people wanting to “migrate” and you can be sure they’re not lining up to go to Africa, Central or South America or Asia. They want to go where “White Supremacy” is a “problem”.

Read that above and then tell me that this guy isn't a straight up neo-Nazi.

**Richard** · December-21-18, 10:34 AM

^ you seemed to have spent a lot of time on neo-Nazi sites in order to create that conclusion in your mind.

How many have even heard of Storm Front website unless they were looking for and joining?

**Richard** · December-21-18, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by canuck

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The only diversionary tactic I see are the lies that brought a bevy of people in the Chump administration to go to prison.

Acts created outside of and before public office,how many people have you met in life that would stand up to a intense multi government investigation.

All it would take is making a $1.89 mistake on filing taxes and some would turn it into a massive tax invasion scandal in order to hate Trump.

But nobody had a problem with the previous administration that helped the banks throw millions out of their homes only to be hired as consultants for the same companies after leaving office.

**admin** · December-21-18, 11:42 AM

Our requests for civility on this thread seemed to have gone unheeded and this thread has degenerated to point where it is hereby closed.

Again we appeal to all to kindly respect each other and engage only in thoughtful and respectful discourse. We believe it is possible to argue, even vehemently, one's opinion without denigrating others.

Please do that. Peace on earth and good will to all.

**ggores** · December-21-18, 09:36 PM

The recent blocking of posts to the thread titled something about a "Honduran Elephant in a Room" reminds me of an old joke. You see, there was this guy and his monkey, and they walked into a bar and took a chair each.

I respectfully request that D' Yes! Admin keep this Topic open and subject to any, and all, ridicule and commentary. Anyone else agree, please write yer thoughts.

{except for Pam)

Heh.

**Bigb23** · December-21-18, 10:20 PM

Because you should have said a monkey AND his guy.
Keep it straight.

**Richard** · December-21-18, 11:55 PM

I thought it was a guy and his PET monkey.

In all fairness they did not delete any posts that I noticed anyways,they just locked the thread.

If they did delete posts then it might be viewed as in collusion with the Canadians in order to suppress free speech in America.

We could start another one called “Views on Immigration,politics and religion and gun control”

But I have to agree that when it comes to petty name calling it does kinda take on a feed the trolls aspect when replying,and I am but a guest here and when you are in somebody else’s house,you have to respect their rules.