US Redistricting Map Approved - Metro Detroit Shuffled - Incumbents scramble

[Lowell]

Michigan's redistricting commission voted to adopt new congressional districts Tuesday, creating political boundaries for the state's 13 U.S. House districts for the next decade. With one less seat a number of representatives find themselves in different districts and having to move.

The new map places the current hometowns of eight incumbents in the same districts, eliminates the two majority-Black districts that currently run through Detroit and chips away at the Republican advantage baked into the map in place today.

The new map - which the commission referred to as “Chestnut” - was backed by eight out of 13 of the randomly selected voters who serve on the commission, including two Democrats, two Republicans and four independents. Five commissioners voted for a different plan.

The new map sets up at least one primary battle between incumbents: U.S. Reps. Andy Levin, D-Bloomfield Township, and Haley Stevens, D-Rochester Hills, announced they were both running in a newly drawn southern Oakland County district. Stevens' hometown was moved into a new district that includes Sterling Heights and southern Macomb but her current district includes much of the new one she's running in.
https://freep-mi.newsmemory.com?publ...48ae40_1346041

Details and demographics here: https://michigan.mydistricting.com/l...ts/plan/273/23

Much better than the ridiculously gerrymandered 2010 map.

[Satiricalivory]

So glad we have an independent commission now.

[K-slice]

So much better than the nonsense we have now.

[Johnnny5]

What kind of grudge does the commission have against Milford? Tiny little suburb of less than 20k people, but they split it down the middle with a random squiggly line? Not sure why that was necessary. :[[

[Ray1936]

What kind of grudge does the commission have against Milford? Tiny little suburb of less than 20k people, but they split it down the middle with a random squiggly line? Not sure why that was necessary. :[[

Don't much matter; the politicians on either side have deaf ears. Those who run for political office have only one thing in mind: Their Egos. Live with it.

[Honky Tonk]

What kind of grudge does the commission have against Milford? Tiny little suburb of less than 20k people, but they split it down the middle with a random squiggly line? Not sure why that was necessary. :[[

A river runs through it...

[Richard]

Don't much matter; the politicians on either side have deaf ears. Those who run for political office have only one thing in mind: Their Egos. Live with it.

Lol,that reminds me of that insurance commercial,after 80 years we have seen a thing or two.

That is the way it has always been,once you are in power your only goal is to seek more power,we the people are just little pawns in the bigger game.

[Johnnny5]

A river runs through it...

It does, but the Huron River runs through more than a dozen other towns and none of them are split in two. Not to mention, the dividing line on that map isn't just the river. It's randomly all over the place splitting parts of Milford Village and the Township.

Don't much matter; the politicians on either side have deaf ears. Those who run for political office have only one thing in mind: Their Egos. Live with it.

Probably true, but still kind of a lousy way to draw the line. It'll make it more difficult for Milford residents to make our voices heard as we'll now be dealing with two sets of deaf ears.

[Danny]

Looks like some race of people may not get their voice. Also, the 11th District is up for grabs. And John James will never make it to the senate. As longs he is a MAGA Supporter.

[townonenorth]

Don't much matter; the politicians on either side have deaf ears. Those who run for political office have only one thing in mind: Their Egos. Live with it.

The politicians didn't make these maps. They are the ones mostly crying the blues. Mostly Republicans, anyway.

[JBMcB]

It does, but the Huron River runs through more than a dozen other towns and none of them are split in two. Not to mention, the dividing line on that map isn't just the river. It's randomly all over the place splitting parts of Milford Village and the Township.

The map is less gerrymandered, but that doesn't mean it isn't gerrymandered. Check out the weird stairsteps in Macomb, and the bizarre chopping-up of southern Oakland county.

[Lowell]

Oakland County has pieces in six districts.

[Meddle]

Looks very much lime the kind of plan I proposed on a couple of these threads in the past. As far as the odd cutouts, I'd have to see closer, but they could be existing lines like ZipCodes, real estate plot boundaries, school district lines or just where roads run.

[mkd]

I wonder why, seemingly, the northernmost district is taking most of Lake St Clair from the Warren-Sterling Heights-Harrison Twp district.

[Gistok]

I wonder why, seemingly, the northernmost district is taking most of Lake St Clair from the Warren-Sterling Heights-Harrison Twp district.

Yes, that doesn't make sense, since south of the Channel Islands [[St. Clair River delta), there are no islands for that district to include??

[Henry Whalley]

...taking most of Lake St Clair from the Warren-Sterling Heights-Harrison Twp district.

Don't know. But I'd prefer to be gerrymandered into Canadian citizenship. This country is a mess

[Richard]

Don't know. But I'd prefer to be gerrymandered into Canadian citizenship. This country is a mess

you should join the crowd,that is why Florida is getting sprawled to death,from everybody fleeing instead of being a part of the solution.

[Henry Whalley]

...you should join the crowd,that is why Florida is getting sprawled to death,..

If all the Americans left Florida, I'd go there.

[Richard]

If all the Americans left Florida, I'd go there.

well I would say you are in the wrong country to be hating on Americans,with over 350 million of them you are a bit out numbered and you may be more of the problem then the rest are.

Canada has strict immigration policies,you could always sneak across the border to escape.

[Danny]

The alarms are sounding...

wowowowowowowowowowowowowowow!!!!!

This must be Trump Supporting Republican ideal to close the coffin to end predominately black communities in Michigan areas to have their leader in the legislature.

[Richard]

The alarms are sounding...

wowowowowowowowowowowowowowow!!!!!

This must be Trump Supporting Republican ideal to close the coffin to end predominately black communities in Michigan areas to have their leader in the legislature.

How is that? Its pretty clear in Detroit and other major cities that a large part of the African American community has had little representation ever.

Decades before any trump supporting republican ideals came into the picture.

I find it hard to believe people actually wake up in the morning and say,yes, I love living in poverty and dispair give me more of it.

Its not exactly equal representation as it stands.They should draw a line right through the middle of the city and give people a choice,that’s kinda the objective.

But maybe that is why they do not,cause they are scared people will defect when they have choices.

Why does this remain a thriving community within the city?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...perately-needs

[swingline]

How is that? Its pretty clear in Detroit and other major cities that a large part of the African American community has had little representation ever.

Decades before any trump supporting republican ideals came into the picture.

I find it hard to believe people actually wake up in the morning and say,yes, I love living in poverty and dispair give me more of it.

Its not exactly equal representation as it stands.They should draw a line right through the middle of the city and give people a choice,that’s kinda the objective.

But maybe that is why they do not,cause they are scared people will defect when they have choices.

It's unclear what this even means, unless the point is to repeat the tired [[and false) trope that black Democrats ruined Detroit and it would instead be some kind of paradise here if brilliant "business-minded" Republicans had been in charge.

As for Danny's apparent complaint about Black voters losing representation, the new maps will not be the cause, assuming for the moment that fewer Black politicians will get elected. The Voting Rights Act has never guaranteed representation by race. Black folks have moved all over SE Michigan. District boundaries are not obligated to follow them. Packing Black voters into one district for the purpose of electing Black candidates has been ruled by courts as improper because on the flip side it runs afoul of the partisan fairness the Act requires of district boundaries. You can't pack voters of one party into single districts either. The redistricting commission has unpacked the districts shamelessly created by the GOP ten years ago to blunt the mostly 50/50 voters in the Great Lakes state. Accomplishing this goal was just as important as making sure that Black candidates have a chance to get elected.

[Richard]

That is based on,all African Americans vote Democrat,when they are like anybody else,a diverse voting block.

Based on African Americans can only be properly represented by fellow African Americans,Detroit as a majority African city has a majority African American power structure.

The redistricting actually puts Talib in as a representative that covers a large block of Detroit now,so African American representation by African Americans has been removed,not by Republicans.

As you wrote,black folks have moved all over SE Michigan,maybe that is because do they seek equal representation outside of the set parameters.

You keep referring to them as black,when you should be viewing them without color and they should be entitled to equal representation.

If it was the Republicans who keep them trapped in the inner cities how come,as you say,they are moving out and all over SE Michigan,why should they have to move in order to seek equal representation?

With Talib in control now,who is a progressive,is she going to be representative to the African American Democrats or lean more to the progressive African Americans?

It does not matter though,Democrat or Republican,they are not your leaders,they are supposed to be your representatives,they enact policies and it is up to the citizens to make decisions on if they are willing to except those policies.

One can spin it all they want,it is clear that in the past,the African American community has not been represented properly by anybody,otherwise it would have never gotten to the state it is in.

They have had representation all the way up to the White House,representation on both the federal level and state level,so the opportunity to be represented by fellow African Americans has not been denied by the Republicans,or placed into blocks that they cannot escape by Republicans.

The ones that left,demanded more and when they did not receive that representation they voted with their feet,they did not all of the sudden convert to Republicans,they voted with their feet and moved to a different location that had different policies where they did not have to fight tooth and nail for an equal chance.

It does not matter,Republican or Democrat,race or perceived colors,people spend to much time fixating in the person they have as representatives instead of spending the same concerns on the polices that they are enacting.

Detroit does not need to be Republican controlled to advance or succeed as you suggested people think,Duggan is a Democrat and makes a strong case as to it is polices that move cities forward or destroy them.

As you can see,trying to play politics at the street level gets you nowhere,it’s a diversion tactic so the ones that are supposed to be your representatives become your leaders and lose site of what you actually voted them in to do.

Detroit is Democrat majority,but yet has not seen the up to 400% In crime increases like other Democrat controles cities have,simply because they did not put policies in place that encourages or supports the violence.

Detroit will survive and prosper under policy decisions like that,the other cities are already emptying out and money is fleeing,that was not caused by white flight or Republicans or what ever else one can think of in order to place blame,that was caused by policies enacted while denying the citizens improper representation.

No citizen as a majority stood up and said,yes we love out of control violence,please give us more,treating politicians as leaders in control verse representatives does not work.

Do you believe the redrawing of these lines that benefited the progressive party when it comes to Detroit was pushed by the republicans?

The progressive party has no time for the Democratic Party in Detroit and it is their goal to strengthen that advancement,so who is actually trying to flip the city to their advantage,it’s not the Republicans.

The concept of Democrats verses Republicans went out the window 15 years ago,there are plenty of well run Democrat controlled cities,just as there are cities that are labeled as Democrat majority but are no longer Democrat controlled outside of the word,politics are evolving and it is not the 1950s anymore and a two party system.

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Goes to show you how "The Big Lie" has created mass hysteria over a election that was won fair and square. How many times did the states that were in question re-counted votes? At least 3 or 4 times and they were correct. It has filtered down to politics at the local level, which is a damn shame. Redistricting is nothing but voter suppression especially for blacks and other people of color who voted in record numbers to get the "Dictator" out of office.

[mjb3]

I was hoping some of the reps would retire[[like Dingell) instead of pushing out younger blood reps. I remember when John Dingell forced out Lynn Rivers - I think we lost a really bright young star. Congress is not a nursing home - I think it should be 65 or at least 70 and out for congressmen.